Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

[Ace/Homebrew]

First card for the new set has been spoiled:



Saheeli's Artistry
Sorcery (Rare)
Choose one or both -

• Create a token that is a copy of target
  artifact
• Create a token that is a copy of target
  creature, except it's an artifact in addition
  to its other types.

Looks like the Planeswalker character the set will be following is named Saheeli Rai.

[jam3sbob]

So we're creating stuff now instead of putting a copy of stuff into play.

[LarsLeif]

So we're creating stuff now instead of putting a copy of stuff into play.

Yes, this has already been confirmed: http://hopelessly-vorthosian.tumblr....tokens-will-be

[MaximumC]

First card for the new set has been spoiled:



Saheeli's Artistry
Sorcery (Rare)
Choose one or both -

• Create a token that is a copy of target
  artifact
• Create a token that is a copy of target
  creature, except it's an artifact in addition
  to its other types.

Looks like the Planeswalker character the set will be following is named Saheeli Rai.

So it's a worse version of Clever Imposter or Phyrexian Metamorph with corner cases involving duplicating creatures with ETB abilities. Okay when you want to cast a new copy of Eternal Witness each turn for 6 manas.

[Lemnear]

The card likes to copy Sundering Titans and Sphinx of the Steel Winds

[MaximumC]

The card likes to copy Sundering Titans and Sphinx of the Steel Winds

But why not just use Metamorph

why

EDIT: OH because you can choose both I GET IT

EDIT 2: I can imagine better things to do than copying a Sundering Titan, though. How often do you need to kill three of every basic land?

[Lemnear]

But why not just use Metamorph

why

EDIT: OH because you can choose both I GET IT

EDIT 2: I can imagine better things to do than copying a Sundering Titan, though. How often do you need to kill three of every basic land?

You get TWO sundering titans if you copy one in play and if your,opponent tries to kill one, they lose their lands again

[Cire]

Some dumb ideas:

Lol - pay 7 - copy Lodestone Golem - make every non-artifact impossible to cast.
Master of Etherium - pay 6 - have at the very least 3 5/5's in play.
Precursor Golem - pay 6 - copy spell twice(?) - end up with 9 golems total?
Solemn Simulacrum?

[maharis]

Saheeli is basically a 3 CMC blue Nahiri, I wouldn't sleep on that.


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[Zllig]

Saheeli is basically a 3 CMC blue Nahiri, I wouldn't sleep on that.


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How are you even getting that?

[maharis]

How are you even getting that?

It comes down and gives you card selection until winning the game...?

Yes, no self-protection, but... Tradeoffs. CMC, force pitchable, artifacts stick around, etc.

[supremePINEAPPLE]

How are you even getting that?

Her ult is obviously similar and only comes out a turn slower if played on curve. I think the problem saheeli will run into is that the +1 is so much slower than nahiri's +2 so she can't recover from pressure in the same way and you can't just topdeck her and ultimate in a few turn like nahiri can.

[Cire]

Can't wait till I can animate a Vehicle and have it Crew another Vehicle

[rufus]

Her ult is obviously similar and only comes out a turn slower if played on curve. I think the problem saheeli will run into is that the +1 is so much slower than nahiri's +2 so she can't recover from pressure in the same way and you can't just topdeck her and ultimate in a few turn like nahiri can.

Yeah, but the minus ability is so much worse than the Nahiri minus.

I'm trying to think of currently playable legacy artifacts that would pay off on the -2.

[supremePINEAPPLE]

Yeah, but the minus ability is so much worse than the Nahiri minus.

I'm trying to think of currently playable legacy artifacts that would pay off on the -2.

It copies creatures too if you didn't catch that. No idea what the shell would look like but there have to be some good targets out there.

EDIT: Too slow

[rufus]

Saheeli is basically a 3 CMC blue Nahiri, I wouldn't sleep on that.

An intriguing card, but no self-protection, and she takes a long time to ult. I'm curious to see what impact she has.

...

Also new artifact subtype.

[Lemnear]

I am completely unsure how good she is. Sure, she is a Tinker with 4 turns delay, but the other two abilities are kinda tricky. The +1 is kinda pointless as she can't target creatures and the -2 can be really good if you copy a Goblin Welder, Snapcaster Mage, Black Lotus or other crazy shit, but thats maybe not quite the thing for Legacy. The problem for this card is sitting between Dack Fayden and Jace the Mindsculptor in Legacy and Vintage. I dunno if there is a deck which wants to run a Delay-Tinker and the respective tinker-targets plus creatures/artifacts for the -2. Maybe Vintage Slaver is interrested to run her alongside Dack?

[rufus]

... the -2 can be really good if you copy a Goblin Welder, Snapcaster Mage, Black Lotus or other crazy shit, ...

For some reason I missed that it works on creatures, that makes it a lot stronger. That -2 could save a turn or more in a tribal deck.

[phonics]

When comparing her to Dack or new daretti, she doesnt really -do- anything. Her +1 suffers from the Chandra syndrome but her -2 looks like it could make the card, but it needs you to have something worth copying (as opposed to being able to copy an opponents artifact). Dack when you are behind can dig 2 cards immediately or even steal something from an opponent (not even counting living the dream of snagging a blightsteel in vintage), while daretti seems just plain better outside of not being blue.

Also with those power counters, hopefully we will get a way to interact with these sorts of player counters (like experience counters from the commander sets)
I want to see aetherworksgargadon.dec though.

[civet five]

Her ultimate grabs Blightsteel Colossus, Lightning Greaves and something to clear the way (let's say Spine of Ish Shah). Or grabs Metalworker, Staff of Domination and a third piece of utility. This is one of the few ultimates that actually wins the game the turn it gets ultimated, so we shouldn't totally dismiss it.