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    Aether Revolt -or- Kaladesh 2: Ghirapur Drift

    No spoilers yet, but there are some pictures we can speculate over!



    Seems to be some contention over who the lady is, but most think it is Saheeli. I'm leaning towards Pia Nalaar.
    I didn't notice anyone discussing the fact she's got Tezzeret's arm.

    On second look... She's got two mechanical arms, so I guess they aren't Tezzerets...



    And here's arm-less Tezzeret with what appears to be Salvage Titans.

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    Re: Aether Revolt -or- Kaladesh 2: Ghirapur Drift

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Seems to be some contention over who the lady is, but most think it is Saheeli. I'm leaning towards Pia Nalaar.
    I didn't notice anyone discussing the fact she's got Tezzeret's arm.

    On second look... She's got two mechanical arms, so I guess they aren't Tezzerets...
    Yeah, I'd bet on Pia, because why would we get another Saheeli card? Perhaps Pia as UR now? Although it does seem kind of odd that she'd get two cards, unless that just isn't card art or is just some random spell.

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    And here's arm-less Tezzeret with what appears to be Salvage Titans.
    Masterpiece Salvage Titan? Lol. No, maybe just a reprint.
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    Re: Aether Revolt -or- Kaladesh 2: Ghirapur Drift

    The Gatewatch rescues Pia and kills Tezzeret?

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    Re: Aether Revolt -or- Kaladesh 2: Ghirapur Drift

    How is that Tezzeret's arm? It doesn't look anything like that, given the ornaments the arm has while Tezzeret has a Phyrexian claw.

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    Re: Aether Revolt -or- Kaladesh 2: Ghirapur Drift

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    On second look... She's got two mechanical arms, so I guess they aren't Tezzerets...
    Regardless of the reasoning, I had come to the same conclusion.

    Where does Tezzeret stand on the sliding scale of morality anyway? For those who follow the lore, is he a good guy or a bad guy?
    And if he's a bad guy, why would he be given such an esteemed position on Kaladesh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Regardless of the reasoning, I had come to the same conclusion.

    Where does Tezzeret stand on the sliding scale of morality anyway? For those who follow the lore, is he a good guy or a bad guy?
    And if he's a bad guy, why would he be given such an esteemed position on Kaladesh?
    Isn't he supposed to follow the trope of a good guy working for bad people?

    Edit: nevermind he's evil

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    He's Bolas' lackey, which makes him a bad guy. If he got a good position, it's because he's A. Wealthy B. Skilled in metal magic and C. A manipulative bastard with access to Bolas' resources. Also, it doesn't seem like the Consulate is entirely good either (See: Baral v Chandra)

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    He's the classic "character with a crappy upbringing who, instead of rising above it to becoming a shining champion of the oppressed and downtrodden, instead turns into a scheming, back-stabbing mofo." He'd be doing all the same bad shit he's doing now if he weren't Bolas's muppet, he just doesn't have a choice in which bad things he does because Bolas has a claw up his ass at all times.

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    Kay...
    So was he evil as Tezzeret the Seeker, or did he become evil? (or was he reconned as always being evil)

    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    Read up at the link... looks like 'the Seeker' was always evil or was reconned as evil. Tez didn't get his spark until moments before Bolas revived him and made him evil. So unless the card depicts Tez between 'his spark igniting after being mortally wounded' and 'Bolas reviving him', he was evil...

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    Re: Aether Revolt -or- Kaladesh 2: Ghirapur Drift

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Kay...
    So was he evil as Tezzeret the Seeker, or did he become evil? (or was he reconned as always being evil)


    Read up at the link... looks like 'the Seeker' was always evil or was reconned as evil. Tez didn't get his spark until moments before Bolas revived him and made him evil. So unless the card depicts Tez between 'his spark igniting after being mortally wounded' and 'Bolas reviving him', he was evil...
    He turned evil in his very first appearance, before he met Bolas or even ignited his spark.
    No retcon necessary.

    If that woman turns out to be Pia, she somehow lost like almost 20 years of age in between sets... oÔ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylphnir View Post
    He turned evil in his very first appearance, before he met Bolas or even ignited his spark.
    No retcon necessary.

    If that woman turns out to be Pia, she somehow lost like almost 20 years of age in between sets... oÔ
    It could be Oviya or Rashmi. I'm leaning towards Oviya, consdidering the quality of her armor.

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    Is bolas evil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu View Post
    Is bolas evil?
    Just misunderstood
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    Just misunderstood
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    Quote Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu View Post
    Is bolas evil?
    Could be my Hero if he finally kills the Jacetice League or tell the blue Planeswalker to not stick his Jaceticles into every storyline. It's fucking time for a while new Planeswalker Squad which isn't as dumb and shallow as the current one. They need a reboot
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    Quote Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu View Post
    Is bolas evil?
    He's Sherlock Holmes, only an old Dragon. So, not so much evil, as a high-functioning sociopath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkenslight View Post
    He's Sherlock Holmes, only an old Dragon. So, not so much evil, as a high-functioning sociopath.
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    Re: Aether Revolt -or- Kaladesh 2: Ghirapur Drift

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    Could be my Hero if he finally kills the Jacetice League or tell the blue Planeswalker to not stick his Jaceticles into every storyline. It's fucking time for a while new Planeswalker Squad which isn't as dumb and shallow as the current one. They need a reboot
    Agreed. I'm all for either:

    1) Switching the story to where we left Karn in New Phyrexia

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    2) A return to Dominaria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruta Barracuda View Post
    Agreed. I'm all for either:

    1) Switching the story to where we left Karn in New Phyrexia

    Or

    2) A return to Dominaria
    1) Is going to involve the Jacetice League. Bet on it.

    2) I love Dominaria as much as the next guy, but what's left there? It's a clusterfuck of devestation with whole continents gone, Rath overlay and time rift shenanigans. Also, shouldn't slivers be rampant there now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    Could be my Hero if he finally kills the Jacetice League or tell the blue Planeswalker to not stick his Jaceticles into every storyline. It's fucking time for a while new Planeswalker Squad which isn't as dumb and shallow as the current one. They need a reboot
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    2) I love Dominaria as much as the next guy, but what's left there? It's a clusterfuck of devestation with whole continents gone, Rath overlay and time rift shenanigans. Also, shouldn't slivers be rampant there now?
    What did happen post time-spiral block - story wise. I could've sworn everything was "fixed"

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