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  1. #1001

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Thank you so much that. Iíve been pushing myself towards dropping him lol. I think the rise in delver decks having bolts, push, k-command and all the other you mentioned + 4C control and decks like lands that have P-fire make him so hard to use efficiently. Iíve been considering putting a second EWS in due to it body and ability. But Iím so iffy on that. Krenko always seems to eat removal as soon as he lands but I guess that lets my other guys live.

    Iím going to the Colombus event Saturday and Iíll be posting my list tomorrow togetnlast minute opinions and advice. Any of you guys going to be there?

    Edit: might be coming up with a list thatís just solid 4ofs to be Grindy and go wide. But Iím not too sure on that. I feel like going wide will consistently pull through. But against decks like elves and combo Iím not even sure if we can compete.

  2. #1002

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    In my opinion Kiki Jiki is the best 5. It's almost always a backbreaking swing in terms of both card advantage and tempo.
    At the moment I don't play Krenko or Siege Gang. I agree that Siege Gang is generally the best thing to drop off an unblocked lackey on turn 2 but in my opinion this doesn't happen consistently enough to be worth a slot on a 5 cmc card. As I have said in the past Lightning Crafter does most of the things that makes Siege Gang good but is 1 mana cheaper. (It doesn't boost Piledriver but that card sucks regardless imo).

    Krenko is generally good, but I am off it at the moment because my list has only a very small number of haste lords in it. I could still see myself adding it back in despite this, but without being able to consistently have haste 4 mana is a lot to spend on a creature that can die to basically every 1-mana removal without doing anything.

  3. #1003

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Imo krenko and sgc are both amazing if you're running 3+ chieftain. If not I get Kiki.

  4. #1004

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    I havenít tested with crafter yet. It is interesting to me. And kiki makes it great. Not sure if Iím on board with dropping both krenko and siege gang yet. I have to pull the trigger before the side events on Saturday lol

  5. #1005

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    we will soon disappear from the "last 2 month metagame" on mtgtop8
    last goblin deck top 8ied the 18th of november


    i'm playing a Rwg build atm, the choice is mainly for Rip since it's the strongest GY card available in my opinion, and gy is very important for many decks in the curren meta. green is for tin street, since tutorable shattering for 2 mana feels pretty good, also giving access to library.

    think i'll cut karakas for another mountain adding mana stability. probabily it will be right to have 4 mountains since 4 mana is where we want to be without fearing wasteland.
    i'd like to add a prospector and maybe the 3rd gempalm somewhere. anyway i trimmed my beloved sgc for krenko, lowering down the curve and enjoying my vial @4. redcap shine against annoying planeswalker such as jace and liliana. i also like a lot the sparksmith since it give us a great advantage if activated 2+ times. rabblemaster is under evaluation: sometimes great sometimes suicidal, i'll continue to test him atm.

    the sideboard has 7 combodedicated slot (thalia, chalice, rip), wear-tear for enchantments and additional shattering effects, moon for marit-lage decks+ 4c decks, and library vs control

    i'm feeling good about the deck. i'm 11-10 in round atm, few games lost by my poor decisions, few lost by the deck (mana and mulligan)

    Creature (29)
    4x Goblin Ringleader
    4x Goblin Warchief
    4x Goblin Lackey
    4x Goblin Matron
    3x Mogg War Marshal
    1x Goblin Piledriver
    1x Goblin Rabblemaster
    1x Goblin Sharpshooter
    1x Krenko, Mob Boss
    1x Goblin Chieftain
    1x Murderous Redcap
    1x Sparksmith
    1x Tin Street Hooligan

    2x Gempalm Incinerator

    Land (23)
    6x r fetch
    4x Cavern of Souls
    4x Wasteland
    3x Rishadan Port
    2 x Mountain
    2x Plateau
    1x Karakas
    1x Taiga

    Instant (4)
    4x Tarfire

    sideboard

    3x chalice
    2x thalia
    2x moon
    2x pyrok
    2x rip
    2x wear tear
    1x sylvan library
    1x stingscourger

  6. #1006

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Went top8 in a small local tournament near my city (20 players), then split the prize.
    My list:

    Core (lackey vial matron ring warchief gempalm tarfire)
    1 sting
    1 siege gang
    1 kiki
    1 sharpshooter
    2 prospectors
    2 mogg war marshall
    1 chieftain

    Lands
    4 ports
    4 waste
    4 caverns
    4 ferches
    7 mountains

    sideboard:

    3 surgical extraction
    2 blood moon
    2 active volcano
    3 pyrokinesis
    3 thorn of amethyst
    1 scrapper
    1 mogg salvage

    Deck performed really well, hope it will help (:

  7. #1007

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlock96 View Post
    Went top8 in a small local tournament near my city (20 players), then split the prize.
    Deck performed really well, hope it will help (:
    Can I ask what your actual matchup/record was
    4 Gempalm 0 Tarfire seems insane to me

  8. #1008

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlock96 View Post

    Core (lackey vial matron ring warchief gempalm tarfire)


    There it is

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  9. #1009

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by menph View Post
    There it is

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    Oh whoops.
    Still interested in a matchup report though.

  10. #1010

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    yup sure,

    Grixis Delver 2-0

    G1 He played a classic list; won G1 porting lands, killing some stuff, blocking frogs etc..
    G2 I knew he would have sided out counters so T1 prospector T2 blood moon, ggs

    Storm 2-1

    G1 lost on T2, rit rit led tutor etc..
    G2 won on the spot with double thorn of amethyst
    G3 won with active volcano, opponent didn't notice the card, so I bounced an Island in response to infernal tutor/LED; he searched for an island, gg

    4c Czech Pile 0-2

    G1 mulled to 5, then he tourached me, lost.
    G2 nothing special here, just lost by kolagan and other stuff

    Goblin (mirror) 2-0

    G1,G2 he was a new player, he was playing this deck as an aggro deck

    Dredge 2-1

    G1 lost to dredge. (bridges from below, multiple things going on, elesh, gg)
    G2 won with surgical on stikweed imp
    G3 awesome game: He starts with looting then pass, I play lackey, game goes on, he takes damage and finally cast elesh from graveyard. He's at 1 life, I have nothing on the field... Port his city of brass and steal the game lol

  11. #1011

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlock96 View Post
    yup sure,

    Grixis Delver 2-0

    G1 He played a classic list; won G1 porting lands, killing some stuff, blocking frogs etc..
    G2 I knew he would have sided out counters so T1 prospector T2 blood moon, ggs

    Storm 2-1

    G1 lost on T2, rit rit led tutor etc..
    G2 won on the spot with double thorn of amethyst
    G3 won with active volcano, opponent didn't notice the card, so I bounced an Island in response to infernal tutor/LED; he searched for an island, gg

    4c Czech Pile 0-2

    G1 mulled to 5, then he tourached me, lost.
    G2 nothing special here, just lost by kolagan and other stuff

    Goblin (mirror) 2-0

    G1,G2 he was a new player, he was playing this deck as an aggro deck

    Dredge 2-1

    G1 lost to dredge. (bridges from below, multiple things going on, elesh, gg)
    G2 won with surgical on stikweed imp
    G3 awesome game: He starts with looting then pass, I play lackey, game goes on, he takes damage and finally cast elesh from graveyard. He's at 1 life, I have nothing on the field... Port his city of brass and steal the game lol
    Porting city of brass for the win: fantastic

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  12. #1012

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlock96 View Post
    yup sure,

    Grixis Delver 2-0

    G1 He played a classic list; won G1 porting lands, killing some stuff, blocking frogs etc..
    G2 I knew he would have sided out counters so T1 prospector T2 blood moon, ggs

    Storm 2-1

    G1 lost on T2, rit rit led tutor etc..
    G2 won on the spot with double thorn of amethyst
    G3 won with active volcano, opponent didn't notice the card, so I bounced an Island in response to infernal tutor/LED; he searched for an island, gg

    4c Czech Pile 0-2

    G1 mulled to 5, then he tourached me, lost.
    G2 nothing special here, just lost by kolagan and other stuff

    Goblin (mirror) 2-0

    G1,G2 he was a new player, he was playing this deck as an aggro deck

    Dredge 2-1

    G1 lost to dredge. (bridges from below, multiple things going on, elesh, gg)
    G2 won with surgical on stikweed imp
    G3 awesome game: He starts with looting then pass, I play lackey, game goes on, he takes damage and finally cast elesh from graveyard. He's at 1 life, I have nothing on the field... Port his city of brass and steal the game lol
    The active volcano tech in response to a tutor is absolutely hilarious, as is the port city of brass victory. Well done

  13. #1013

    Re: [Deck] Vial Goblins

    Hey Everyone,

    3-0-1 last night at a weekly. Splitting with the other 3-0 person at the end of the night. Small wins, but a good run. Ran the same list I've posted earlier in the thread.

    First round
    2-0 Vs Miracles

    Typical miracles matchup, played conservatively swinging in for 2-5 damage and making sure my Matrons and Ringleaders couldn't be countered. Lightning Crafter championing Matron kept the ringleaders coming after a terminus and killed helped kill a couple angels between the 3 games.

    Round 2
    2-1 Vs ANT
    G1 got blown out, lackey didn't even get to attack.
    G2 T1 Lackey into T2 Piledriver lackey putting in Kiki Jiki, T3 kill copying Piledriver on end step and on my turn swinging in for lethal
    G3 Slower hand for both of us, I hit him down to 10 from top decking a Chieftain with my two 1/1 tokens on the board. He had to go for ad nauseum at 10 life and the first flip was the 5 drop tutor. He didn't get there.

    Round 3
    2-1 Vs BR Reanimator

    G1 kept a fire hand of 1 cavern, lackey, sting, warchief, sharpshooter, tarfire, matron. Top decked a port. Sharshootered my own lackey to avoid the life gain. He thoughtseized my stingscourger on his T1 making his exume dead.
    G2 Got run over
    G3 Mulled to 6, with lackey and grafdigger's cage. Jam the cage, he told me he had the T1 grissel, drew the port, played the lackey, drew another graf that got discarded, the damage added up quickely with a piledriver taking the win.

    Round 4
    Split for the credit at the store. Sweet 17 dollars. Asked the guy what he was on and he said TES. Whew.

    I had been off the deck for a few weeks since people started brining in targeted hate since our master's event that had two goblins players with 3-4 expected by most contenders. So I brought it back tonight for an "undefeated" run. Love my little green men.

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