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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    If no one else is gonna, I'll bring it up.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Oh, we know about it

    It's at least getting tested.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    The value of that card is quite simply put, absurd. I'll say it again: I don't think you need a 3rd color for Nic Fit currently. There is enough value added recently that allows for a stable GB manabase (Yawgmoth, Plague Engineer, Elvish Reclaimer, now Questing Beast.)
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    The power level here seems quite good. Not being uncounterable is obviously poop, and not having hexproof is poop, but for the 4-mana guys who don't have either of those abilities, he seems pretty okay.

    Vigilance, Deathtouch, and Haste - amazing if not countered. Being able to crack-back on a Jace is never a bad thing. It's likely not as good as Nissa's ability since that 5/5 can kill the Jace, but still...you can hit them, and then crack Jace. Vigilance means you're holding up a lovely blocker. Love it.

    Can't be blocked by creatures power 2 or less: Not getting chumped by Baleful strix, Archanist, most of DnT, Pyromancer tokens, Zombie tokens, etc. etc. etc. You're going to be going toe-toe-toe with flipped Delvers, Anglers, TNN's, Goyfs, Eldrazi, etc.

    Combat Damage...: So, as I understand this, this is turning off opposing creatures' protections, for the most part. This is pretty darn good because it means that all your creatures are live against Mother of Runes, Giver of Runes, and more importantly, TNN. So, your 1/1's can kill TNN...


    So, overall, the card seems great on its own in addition to being part of a team. I'm going to try as a 2-of.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    So in case you're going to say, "but this card just dies to STP/Fatal Push/Assassin's Trophy," you aren't wrong, but that doesn't mean it's a bad card. They still have to try and remove your other creatures as well.

    I think if you're going for a BG Grind value Nic Fit, I think there's an easy shell in something LIKE the following:

    4 Veteran Explorer
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Eternal Witness
    1 Reclamation Sage-type card
    1 Tireless Tracker
    1 Meren of Clan Tel-Noth
    1 Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
    2 Questing Beast
    1 Shifting Ceratops
    1 Deep Woods Hermit (or whatever the new guy is called, token generation)
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Grave Titan
    16

    4 Cabal Therapy
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    2 Once Upon a Time
    3 Abrupt Decay
    3 Assassin's Trophy
    2 Pernicious Deed
    1 Garruk Relentless
    2 Liliana, the Last Hope
    21

    4 Verdant Catacombs
    2 Prismatic Vista
    2 Wooded Foothills
    1 Volrath's Stronghold
    1 Phyrexian Tower
    3 Swamp
    4 Forest
    4 Bayou
    21

    Obviously with room for spicier black cards, maybe like Plague Engineer, etc.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    There was a guy at locals a couple of weeks ago playing a version of the deck with Urza's Bauble because it helps to peep your opponent's hand with therapy.
    It also has synergy with Glissa the Traitor and helps with Delirium for Ishkanah (instead of whatever Hermit) and Traverse.
    Crop Rotation seems really good at the moment with Depths being a significant part of the meta and because this deck can play so many legends itself now (Meren/Ishkanah/Yawgmoth/Beast/Glissa), Karakas is also really good just as a defensive tool.
    Traverse also can act a bit like a Crop Rotation if needed, while not being vulnerable to countermagic and searching for any creature.

    It seems like a reasonable place to start a list.
    The player I refer to was using Living Wish instead of Traverse but I think 2 mana vs 1 is a big difference and the utility of a wishboard is somewhat diminished when your deck already has GSZ in it

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    I always liked Crop Rotation for getting Phyrexian Tower alone, but I also had karakas main and Bog sideboard. I played 2 in Rhino fit back in the days of DRS.

    I think another card that really deserves a slot in Nic Fit, at least one if not more, is Elvish Reclaimer. It's another t1-2 play that can set up a t2-3 Tower/Karakas/Bog.
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