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No Good. I still can't find myself on discord reddit and rest of this stuff ;)
Interesting to see Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet in a list; I hadn't seen that before. 5th place in a 40-player tournament:
// Creatures (9)
2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
3 Grave Titan
4 Veteran Explorer
// Instants (9)
3 Abrupt Decay
3 Assassin's Trophy
3 Liliana's Triumph
// Sorceries (12)
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Night's Whisper
3 Cabal Therapy
3 Duress
4 Innocent Blood
// Enchantments (3)
1 Sylvan Library
2 Pernicious Deed
// Planeswalkers (5)
1 Ashiok, Dream Render
2 Liliana of the Veil
2 Liliana, the Last Hope
// Lands (23)
1 Bayou
3 Bloodstained Mire
4 Forest
4 Verdant Catacombs
11 Swamp
// Sideboard
SB: 1 Ashiok, Dream Render
SB: 1 Assassin's Trophy
SB: 2 Damnation
SB: 1 Duress
SB: 2 Faerie Macabre
SB: 1 Liliana's Triumph
SB: 1 Liliana, the Last Hope
SB: 2 Plague Engineer
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
SB: 2 Veil of Summer
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
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That's more of a fundamental question as it pertains to what quantifies a deck as being "Nic Fit." When you have Veteran Explorer and Cabal Therapy, I think that's more descriptive of a Nic Fit deck than Green Sun's Zenith. I know that sounds bizarre saying that, but for me that's what rings more true. Explorer and Therapy are the cornerstones of Nic Fit. Zenith is absolutely one too, but those cards are the bread and butter.
Jim's deck is really focused more on crushing fair match-ups with a ton of removal. He's been playing for a very long time, so the deck kind of resembles pre-Nic Fit Explorer decks.
I agree with Mike. His build reminds me a lot more like that deck that was GB, had Helldozer, maybe Gigapede, etc. and was all about the grind and infinite removal. Can't remember the name, now. This GB build is a much more grind-oriented, and a lot less dependent on tutors. I wonder if he feels there's enough card draw with just 1 NW and 1 Sylvan.
I've got a 1k coming up locally, and I still want to play Rhinos.
The old Train-Wreck?
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Bingo.
A different take on BUG-Fit:
Creatures (13)
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Hexdrinker
3 Veteran Explorer
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Eternal Witness
1 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
2 Plague Engineer
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Questing Beast
Planeswalkers (8)
2 Liliana of the Veil
3 Oko, Thief of Crowns
1 Vraska, Golgari Queen
1 Ashiok, Nightmare Muse
1 Garruk, Cursed Huntsman
Spells (14)
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Green Sun's Zenith
2 Thoughtseize
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Assassin's Trophy
Enchantments (3)
2 Sylvan Library
1 Pernicious Deed
Lands (22)
3 Bayou
3 Misty Rainforest
1 Phyrexian Tower
3 Polluted Delta
2 Snow-Covered Forest
1 Snow-Covered Island
2 Snow-Covered Swamp
2 Tropical Island
1 Underground Sea
4 Verdant Catacombs
Sideboard (15)
2 Surgical Extraction
4 Veil of Summer
2 Tyrant's Scorn
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Toxic Deluge
3 Leyline of the Void
2 Mindbreak Trap
Orim67's 6-0 list
Interesting to see the new Garruk and Ashiok tried out.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
A new shot at Nicfit.
CATFIT
MAINDECK
Creatures [21]
4 Veteran Explorer
4 Orcish Lumberjack
2 Cauldron Familiar
2 Young Pyromancer
3 Korvold, Fae-Cursed King
3 Titania, Protector of Argoth
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Sylvan Safekeeper
1 Ramunap Excavator
Spells [16]
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Green Sun's Zenith
2 Punishing Fire
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Sylvan Library
2 Witch’s Oven
Land [23]
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Taiga
2 Bayou
1 Badlands
2 Forest
1 Mountain
1 Swamp
3 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Phyrexian Tower
SIDEBOARD
2 Choke
1 Destructive Flow
1 Carpet of Flowers
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Planar Void
1 Faerie Macabre
1 Collector’s Ouphe
1 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1 Gaddock Teeg
2 Veil of Summer
2 Pyroblast
1 Kolaghan's Command
Introduction:
You want to open with an Orcish Lumberjack or a Veteran Explorer, fire off Cabal Therapies and resolve either Korvold or Titania. This list is very similar to NicFit except that it borrows from Applejacks and Jund Sacrifice.
Potential Improvements:
* The list needs more ways to disrupt the opponent besides Cabal Therapy because of Veil of Summer.
* Considering Greater Gargadon over the cat-oven package purely for its more explosive character, however, the list already has 1 Sylvan Safekeeper which can mass-sacrifice as well and can be searched with Green Sun's Zenith.
* I considered Mayhem Daredevil. It's played in JUND Sacrifice and Applejacks. However, it cannot be searched with GSZ and slots are tight.
* Greater Gargadon has synergy with Young Pyromancer
* Considering -2 Oven +2 Gargadon, -2 Cauldron Familiar +2 Mayhem Devil
* The list is soft to Karakas, so that must be addressed outside of Sylvan Safekeeper. Blood Sun doesn’t look like an option with so many fetch lands.
Maindeck Interactions:
Young Pyromancer and Cabal Therapy
Young Pyromancer and Punishing Fire
Grove of the Burnwillows and Punishing Fire
Cabal Therapy and Veteran Explorer
Witch's Oven and Veteran Explorer
Witch's Oven and Cauldron Familiar
Titania, Protector of Argoth and Witch's Oven and Dryad Arbor
Titania, Protector of Argoth and fetchland
Sylvan Safekeeper and Korvold, Fae-Cursed King
Sylvan Safekeeper and Titania, Protector of Argoth
Witch's Oven and Cauldron Familiar and Korvold, Fae-Cursed King
Sack Outlets:
Cabal Therapy
Witch's Oven
Phyrexian Tower
Sideboard choices for my meta:
Choke - Delver, BANT Miracles and Snoko
Destructive Flow - Eldrazi, Stompy, 12-post, Grixis Delver
Carpet of Flowers - Delver, BANT Miracles, Snoko
Surgical Extraction - Breach, Reanimator
Planar Void - Reanimator, Breach, Dredge
Faerie Macabre - Reanimator, Breach
Collector’s Ouphe - TES, Breach, Bomberman
Melira, Sylvok Outcast - Infect
Gaddock Teeg - TES, ANT
Veil of Summer - Grixis Delver
Pyroblast - Delver variants, Jace, Oko
Kolaghan's Command - Death & Taxes, Equipment
Last edited by bruizar; 02-22-2020 at 04:37 AM.
Hi everyone, could I get the link to the discord channel please?
Hey everybody, yes, that's me. Yes, the deck is an evolution over the last almost 15 years from Trainwreck - just BG, all about the grind.
Fun facts about that tournament:
2-0 twice against Reanimator - Faerie Macabre has a very positive interaction with Exhume - also removal plus MD and SD Ashiok, Dream Render.
2-1 against Elves; Kalitus doing a lot of work (can't be hit up Adrupt Decay), just sits there and does horrible things - one game, I was attacked by Progenitus 4 times and I ended the game at 40 life, also the same Progenitus was played 2-3 times in another game.
2nd round I decked a Delver player. (too many draw spells, not enough creatures staying on the board more than a turn to be able to attack)
Lost to OmniTell game three in quarter finals, very close. Guy felt pretty frustrated losing game one to a Show and Telled Basic Forest from me vs an Emrakul from him.
Good day was had.
The Jim Abides.
Straight GB is my modjo since 2 years, now (List and achievements here).
13th @ a 200 ppl tournament
1st @ a 50 ppl tournament
Consistency is what you need when playing such deck.
GB provides that. Period.
I like your build. Old one with new stuff in it.
3 Grave Titans feel like ancient age but so powerful (Grave Titan is still the only one creature that can actually beat a resolved Emrakul/Grisel. Explanations here).
No GSZ. A mix between PW/hard to deal with creatures (reminding me PW teck a few years ago).
The rest is GB good stuff.
You might need to revisit your sideboarding strategy. I feel like you really want to win fair fights a tad too much.
You might be able to leverage your combo MUs without losing too much win % against fair decks.
But that is my opinion.
Thank you for sharing !
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