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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    It completely nullifies opponent's removal. Seems alright to me.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    Hymn is an option for pure BG lists. For 3 colour lists you're probably best off running Thoughtseize.

    For recursion I like Meren a lot, since she's GSZ'able. In a fair list I also run a Volrath's Stronghold, in lists with Rectors (either fair or Evo Leap) I run neither.
    What do You mean by fair list? ;-) I'm mostly in rhino fit, now with Meren and Witness on board. But sometimes I feel it's not enough.

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    It completely nullifies opponent's removal. Seems alright to me.
    I've played her in lists with Titania and Trackers.

    The issue with Safekeeper + Ramunap + ??? is like...it's a bit over the top. Safekeeper to protect something that will win (???) ((unless you are going to use Ramunap land recursion to win...which is slow and doesn't deal with threats already on the board)) plus something to help recur the lands is just way too slow. If you have Safekeeper in play -already- by the time you cast Titania, then fine. If Titania by herself survives a turn...then you probably don't need the followup Safekeeper anyway.

    Safekeeper early on doesn't ramp you, you'll probably spend two mana early on to GSZ for Vet instead. Wasting a GSZ to get Safekeeper in play -before- any other threat is generally a waste of a turn or waste of a GSZ. If there's an increase in targeted destruction effects (Trophy) then a single Meren might be better. E Witness can get anything back from Trophy anyway.

    Safekeeper + Ramunap is fine on the land destruction front, but it's a poor plan to counter the T1 delver that is going to kill you.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Posting while on deployment. Bear with me.

    The new 1GW guy seems nice and flexible, I woukd run 1-2 of. Replaces Sage, and likely Qasali. Meren looks a but stronger, as does Rec Nightmare with no DRS in the format.

    I think Assassin's Trophy is VERY interesting considering we exploit PTE to great effect. However, Daze and Snare are really where you lose those Delver matchups. I would consider still keeping your removal and just tweaking numbers. Ex. 2 Trophy 3 Decay 2 Path still is a nice split.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    I was originally thinking Trophy is just another good removal spell. The more I've played with it though, the more I'm on the 4 of plan. It's just that good.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    @sdematt You've found the new good stuff. I've replaced AD for AT 1-on-1 for now, I run a 3 PtE, 2 AT split.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Does Nic-Fit died? :( Almost month without Your posts. No tournament reports, no techs, nothing...

    Assasin's thropy placed in Abrupt's slots? Maybe You play split or other versions?

    Autumn Knight is quite obvious replacemnt for sage/pridemate :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruby View Post
    Does Nic-Fit died? :( Almost month without Your posts. No tournament reports, no techs, nothing...

    Assasin's thropy placed in Abrupt's slots? Maybe You play split or other versions?

    Autumn Knight is quite obvious replacemnt for sage/pridemate :)
    For better or worse, most folks moved over to the discord.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Academy Rector Nic fit just went undefeated in a 11/3 Online league:

    https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=20472&d=334264&f=LE
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Evolutionary Leap list. Cool
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    Went undefeated, there is no top 8 in leagues, so position 6 is just an arbitrary ranking.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipp2293 View Post
    Went undefeated, there is no top 8 in leagues, so position 6 is just an arbitrary ranking.
    Oops, thanks for the correction. Edited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    Evolutionary Leap list. Cool
    Agree, my favorite ones
    About the list: dunno, seems many targets for me. Ground Seal maindeck is... strange, now that DRS is gone?

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Plenty of Surgicals going round. The only duds in the list in my opinion are the Sandwurm Convergence and Curse of Misfortunes.

    Splendor makes Convergence obsolete, Misfortunes is unnecessarily slow and risky.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    Plenty of Surgicals going round. The only duds in the list in my opinion are the Sandwurm Convergence and Curse of Misfortunes.

    Splendor makes Convergence obsolete, Misfortunes is unnecessarily slow and risky.
    For me is Reality obsolete, Convergence is a way faster clock and often a more impactful card than Reality

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Cruel Reality is a hard lock once your opponent is in topdeck mode... Convergence is just a worse Splendor. As a clock it's irrelevant. Once you establish the lock you can kill your opponent with whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    Cruel Reality is a hard lock once your opponent is in topdeck mode... Convergence is just a worse Splendor. As a clock it's irrelevant. Once you establish the lock you can kill your opponent with whatever.
    For me, the last phrase is an error while discussing this deck, both IRL and MTGO due to time constraints, especially if you've lost the first game

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Once you've established a lock your turns can completed in under 60 seconds...
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Extracted from the big file North America Legacy Champs 2018 Coverage, Decklists, and Results....

    Steven Thompson List from EW 2018 place 110



    Samuel Castrucci List from EW 2018 place 39



    I hope this will help.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gruby View Post
    Does Nic-Fit died? :( Almost month without Your posts. No tournament reports, no techs, nothing...

    Assasin's thropy placed in Abrupt's slots? Maybe You play split or other versions?

    Autumn Knight is quite obvious replacemnt for sage/pridemate :)
    I am going to try this list when I get back soon:

    4 Veteran Explorer
    2 BOP
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Scryb Ranger
    1 Knight of Autumn
    1 Eternal Witness
    1 Shalai
    3 Siege Rhino
    1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Carnage Tyrant

    3 Pernicious Deed
    3 Assassin's Trophy
    2 Abrupt Decay
    2 Path to Exile

    4 Green Suns Zenith
    4 Cabal Therapy
    2 Sylvan Library
    1 Painful Truths
    1 Recurring Nightmare
    1 Enlightened Tutor

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    2 Blood Moon
    2 Choke
    2 Thoughtseize
    2 Pithing Needle
    2 Ethersworn Canonist
    1 Gaddock Teeg
    2 Surgical Extraction
    2 Slaughter Games/Lost Legacy

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