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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    What are people's thoughts about Traverse the Ulvenwald? Early it gets land drops, late it gets dudes. Seems like it could be a 1-2 of in the deck.
    It changes your focus from a green based deck using GSZ to a blue/black deck where green is the third color. It could work with DRS gone, but it's a very significant change to the deck.

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    It seems like when I click the link, it leads me to a dead end.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Matsu View Post


    Did anyone tried NicFit in the new meta?
    I've been fooling around with a 6 rector build (3 of each) but it hasn't been good so far. I have run into some nic fit mirrors, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone2016 View Post
    I've been fooling around with a 6 rector build (3 of each) but it hasn't been good so far. I have run into some nic fit mirrors, however.
    Curious about your list. I've also been run into 6 rectors and have been really impressed. I'll post mine when I'm off mobile.

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    Alright here's my current build. It's putting up a pretty absurdly reasonable win-rate in testing. It still needs to be tweaked a bit; I think I need a third decay to deal with RIP (one in the side); and surgical/leyline are an obvious nonbo.

    Worst matchups are obviously combo G1; but g2/g3 it gets much better.

    2 Swamp
    3 Forest
    2 Phyrexian Tower
    2 Cavern of Souls
    2 Bayou
    1 Savannah
    1 Scrubland
    1 Marsh Flats
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    3 Windswept Heath
    4 Cabal Therapy
    1 Diabolic Intent
    3 Arena Rector
    2 Abrupt Decay
    1 Collective Brutality
    2 Evolutionary Leap
    2 Lingering Souls
    2 Pernicious Deed
    1 Garruk Relentless
    1 Curse of Death's Hold
    1 Dovescape
    1 Ajani Unyielding
    1 Overwhelming Splendor
    3 Academy Rector
    2 Plains
    2 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Sylvan Library
    4 Veteran Explorer
    1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
    1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
    1 Mirri's Guile
    1 Garruk, Apex Predator

    1 Eidolon of Rhetoric
    3 Surgical Extraction
    3 Thoughtseize
    1 Lost Legacy
    1 Toxic Deluge
    1 Leyline of Sanctity
    4 Leyline of the Void

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Seeing a straight BG list is pretty unusual too
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    Seeing a straight BG list is pretty unusual too
    1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
    3 Liliana of the Veil
    1 Vraska, Relic Seeker


    1 Dryad Arbor
    1 Eternal Witness
    2 Grave Titan
    1 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Tireless Tracker
    1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
    4 Veteran Explorer

    4 Cabal Therapy
    1 Diabolic Intent
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    3 Hymn to Tourach
    1 Maelstrom Pulse
    3 Abrupt Decay
    1 Diabolic Edict
    3 Pernicious Deed

    2 Bayou
    1 Bloodstained Mire
    4 Forest
    1 Ghost Quarter
    1 Phyrexian Tower
    4 Swamp
    1 Tropical Island
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Windswept Heath

    1 Diabolic Edict
    1 Engineered Plague
    1 Golgari Charm
    1 Kitchen Finks
    4 Leyline of the Void
    1 Liliana, the Last Hope
    2 Lost Legacy
    1 Reclamation Sage
    1 Sylvan Library
    1 Tarmogoyf
    1 Thoughtseize

    Love the list: I have been moving away from Confidant with the excess of "new" value creatures in G.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Two Nic Fit 5-0 decks in yesterday's MTGO results, one of them particularly spicy:
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    That is spicy. Maybe I'll try to pull it together in time for GP Sac this weekend.

    EDIT: ...aaaand Eureka in paper is going for $350 a pop. Maybe I'll keep this list online. Or do some improvisation.
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    Our format has a 3 mana 15/15, a turn 1 summon a giant Demon Lord, and a de facto Black Lotus and Demonic tutor, but Stifling a fetch is where you draw the line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObligatoryReference View Post
    That is spicy. Maybe I'll try to pull it together in time for GP Sac this weekend.

    EDIT: ...aaaand Eureka in paper is going for $350 a pop. Maybe I'll keep this list online. Or do some improvisation.
    Take a look at mine above. I think Eureka is the wrong path. But double rector build is performing.

    Currently 3-0 in my current league and the list feels very solid

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by walked View Post
    Take a look at mine above. I think Eureka is the wrong path. But double rector build is performing.

    Currently 3-0 in my current league and the list feels very solid
    Not sure if I just have had bad matchups or what but I have tried different rector builds (including a GW version) and have only had one 3-2 to show for it.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Dudes (13)
    4 Veteran Explorer
    2 Tireless Tracker
    1 Dryad Arbor
    1 Eternal Witness
    1 Ranumap Excavator
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Reclamation Sage
    1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Primeval Titan

    Disruption (15)
    4 Cabal Therapy
    3 Hymn to Tourach
    2 Abrupt Decay
    4 Collective Brutality
    1 Pernicious Deed
    1 Diabolic Edict

    Utility (10)
    4 Green Suns Zenith
    2 Crop Rotation
    2 Liliana of the Veil
    1 Liliana, the Last Hope
    1 Diabolic Intent

    Land (22)
    4 Forest
    3 Swamps
    2 Bayou
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    3 Windswept Heath
    1 Ghost Quarter
    1 Horizon Canopy
    1 Volrath’s Stronghold
    1 Phyrexian Tower
    1 Bojuka Bog
    1 Karakas

    Sideboard (15)
    3 Surgical Extractions
    3 Lost Legacy
    1 Marsh Casualties
    1 Pernicious Deed
    1 Toxic Deluge
    1 Crop Rotation
    2 Choke
    1 Diabolic Edict
    1 Maze of Ith
    1 Hymn to Tourach

    Next draft, I have 2 weeks to get something together for the top 8 of my league.
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by jbone2016 View Post
    Not sure if I just have had bad matchups or what but I have tried different rector builds (including a GW version) and have only had one 3-2 to show for it.
    Same here.

    The deck is clunky you have to play a 4cmc tutor and sac it to have profits. Maybe I had a wrong approach to it.
    But after looking at the recently posted results of Legacy Tourny. I am tempted to sleeve a WBG Birthing Pod/Recurring nightmare deck with an infinity life combo and plenty of discard spells

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsu View Post
    Same here.

    The deck is clunky you have to play a 4cmc tutor and sac it to have profits. Maybe I had a wrong approach to it.
    But after looking at the recently posted results of Legacy Tourny. I am tempted to sleeve a WBG Birthing Pod/Recurring nightmare deck with an infinity life combo and plenty of discard spells
    Ive been thinking the same thing! But my trail of thought is that it might be much weaker atm, since it will be more artifact removal and graveyard hate due to stoneforge, reanimator and dredge decks.
    I would love to hear your thought of it :) because i really love the idea of getting pod to work :)

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    Hi guys, I'm new here.

    I had an idea of running a nic fit-y thing relying on Sneak Attack together with Academy Rector/Omniscience to get out big fatties from the hand like Emrakul and Griselbrand, and skipping the hardcastable guys like Thragtusk or Siege Rhino. So basically the idea would be to try to make sure to draw either a Sneak Attack or an Academy Rector (with a sac outlet of course, the normal Cabal Therapy/Phyrexian Tower and something more maybe), and at least one of the fatties.

    I was also thinking to probably skip the GSZ, since the fatties wouldn't be tutorable with it, and a 2cmc Veteran Explorer doesn't seem all that great.

    I was considering DRS but I just realized he was just banned, d'oh... Basically I thought about including Culling the Weak to have another sac outlet and more ramp, but I think I would need more small guys to sac to it than Veteran Explorer, so a mana dork like DRS would probably have fit pretty well, but maybe one could run Birds of Paradise or something then. I mean, the deck would be 4c... Dunno if that's strong enough though...

    Other than that, maybe Dark Ritual? It can pay for the 3 grey mana of both Sneak Attack and Academy Rector.

    So basically ramp, disruption stuff, Sneak/Rector, fatties...

    What do you guys think? Could something like this be cool, like at least playable, or am I bonkers thinking about this?

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by keldon View Post
    What do you guys think? Could something like this be cool, like at least playable, or am I bonkers thinking about this?
    Welcome!

    The 6 Rector / Eureka list posted above is probably a bit closer to what you might be having in mind. Check out the posted Sneak Attack lists and you'll see that there are many many elements outside of the Sneak Attacks and fatties that provide consistency and overall honing of the gameplan. GSZ in general is incredibly helpful even with limited targets - if you have never played nic fit before then you might not realize that GSZ for Veteran Explorer is one of the primary uses of GSZ and is one of the ways to immediately have the mana to hardcast the bigger things (or put up a blocker that they opp won't want to let die). In A-rod's recent versions, Faithless Looting helps to dump excess Attacks and smooths draws, while also comboing well with Meren/Recurring Nightmare. Combining Rector + Sneak Attack seems like it would be stretching the deck in two pretty different directions while exacerbating the manabase, but feel free to experiment.

    Personally I enjoy Rector lists that have immediate win-cons (Splendor/Dovescape primarily) instead of having to rely on something nice to cast from hand after Omni is out. The previous Rector/Eureka list can sidestep that with absurd Eureka hands. Sneak Attack and Omni both are going to be weak to hand disruption...the stable Sneak-focused lists use GSZ as a way to help ensure consistency and an available fatty (Fierce Empath ftw) while the more Academy Rector-focused lists have other enchantments to grab which immediately impact the board and could lead to a win without requiring much else.

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    With Deathrite gone, I'm excited about bringing back an oldy, but a goody: Recurring Nightmare.

    4 Veteran Explorer
    2 Birds of Paradise
    1 Qasali Pridemage
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Eternal Witness
    3 Siege Rhino
    1 Shalai
    1 Thragtusk
    1 Sigarda, Host of Herons

    4 Cabal Therapy
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    3 Abrupt Decay
    3 Pernicious Deed
    3 Path to Exile
    3 Sylvan Library
    1 Recurring Nightmare
    1 Garruk Relentless
    2 Liliana, the Last Hope

    2 Phyrexian Tower
    1 Taiga
    2 Bayou
    2 Savannah
    1 Scrubland
    2 Forest
    2 Plains
    2 Swamp
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Windswept Heath

    //

    1 Enlightened Tutor
    2 Choke
    2 Blood Moon
    1 Pithing Needle
    1 Rest in Peace
    1 Ethersworn Canonist
    2 Zealous Persecution
    2 Thoughtseize
    1 Dueling Grounds
    1 Celestial Purge
    1 Pithing Needle

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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    @sdematt No Sakura-Tribe Elder, Nissa, Vastwood Seer and Archon of Valors Reach? (Notice I'm using the word "and" )
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    Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

    Quote Originally Posted by sdematt View Post
    With Deathrite gone, I'm excited about bringing back an oldy, but a goody: Recurring Nightmare.

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    1 Recurring Nightmare
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    I am also exited but, I have put 3 Nightmares in my deck to abuse ETB

    I do not know why you have put those two BoP and removed Dryad Arbor.
    I think DA might be a better choice unless you plan to face a lot of Wasteland decks or maybe Noble Hierarch.

    Is the Taiga for Blood Moon

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