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    Re: [Article] Managing the Legacy B/R List

    Quote Originally Posted by iatee View Post
    Decks don't 5-0 leagues, crazy MTGO grinders 5-0 leagues. The MTGO legacy community is like, 200 people. It is a small, mostly abandoned rural town where everyone knows each other. Maybe 30 of the people in this sad town are obsessive grinders, and a lot of them play Miracles.
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    Think about what you are saying here. Just about all decks are using it, so the card that enables decks to defend against "degenerate strategies" consistently is necessary because it...enables those same degenerate strategies to operate consistently. This is not just silly; it is actually the root of the "ban brainstorm" camp. The central problem with Brainstorm is that you are at a great disadvantage just by not having it, no matter your deck's other 56 cards.
    I'd add that it has baggage - a colorless Brainstorm (even if it had Awesome(tm) added to the rules text) would have quite different implications for the format than the card being blue does.
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    Re: [Article] Managing the Legacy B/R List

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimhead View Post
    Even with Terminus, Miracles has not shown it self to be any better than ~50/50 vs the upper echelon. (Miracles was shown a year or so ago to under-perform once the top8s are under way).
    Miracles and underperforming?

    I've gone great lenghts in the B&R thread (feel free to look it up) in the past to show that it is outperforming the field alot and goes equal to its relative meta presence at worst. Miracles DOES NOT underperform.

    Back up your claims with actual data - data that is not handpicked from certain events.

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    Re: [Article] Managing the Legacy B/R List

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Miracles and underperforming?

    I've gone great lenghts in the B&R thread (feel free to look it up) in the past to show that it is outperforming the field alot and goes equal to its relative meta presence at worst. Miracles DOES NOT underperform.

    Back up your claims with actual data - data that is not handpicked from certain events.
    I agree with this statement. A deck that has no weaknesses does not underperform.

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