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    Commander 2017 Edition

    http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles...ion-2017-04-18

    We get an earlier release in Paper (August 25, 2017, MTGO is still November 2017) and instead of 5 colored decks, we get 4 Tribal ones.

    I don't like the focus on Tribal. That said, it's interesting that C17 is going to take the slot that is normally used for FTV boxes. Makes you wonder what they have planned for November.

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    Wow, that is shockingly close to my Birthday, maybe as a gift they will give me a Goblin worthy of play in Legacy. Come on, its not Christmas, I don't have to be good for you to get me something nice.
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    Wow, that is shockingly close to my Birthday, maybe as a gift they will give me a Goblin worthy of play in Legacy. Come on, its not Christmas, I don't have to be good for you to get me something nice.
    All I want is a black-bordered Goblin Settler.

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    Re: Commander 2017 Edition

    Decks based on Magic's most popular, and interesting, tribes.

    Maybe Elves! will get some new toys.
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    I miss the days when you could catch Merfolk, Elves, and Goblins at the top tables.

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    Any guesses on the fourth tribe? I assume the three typical ones to be a lock.
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    Re: Commander 2017 Edition

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    Wow, that is shockingly close to my Birthday, maybe as a gift they will give me a Goblin worthy of play in Legacy. Come on, its not Christmas, I don't have to be good for you to get me something nice.
    I have 2 hopes!

    The first is that Goblins are one of the 4 tribes.
    The second is that the 'tribal' mechanic is used even though they no longer support the card type in Standard-sets.

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    Re: Commander 2017 Edition

    Maybe. I think Goblins and Elves are a shoe in, what do we think the other two are?
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    Maybe. I think Goblins and Elves are a shoe in, what do we think the other two are?
    Wasn't the mono-green Freyalise deck basically an Elf tribal deck? and Ezuri had an elf theme...
    I think they might pass on Elves this time around.

    They might even have some 'big end' tribes like Angels, Demons, or Dragons.
    Hopefully they don't cop out and do something super generic like Humans...

    Either way, there has to be significant support already existing for the tribe to make a coherent, playable EDH deck (since only 56 of the cards will be new-to-Magic).
    99 cards. 38 lands, so 61 non-lands. Probably about 2/3rds of the non-lands will be creatures. So about 40 per deck, split across an EDH mana-curve (topping out around 8 or 9 CMC).

    Demons are actually starting to feel like a pretty good candidate. Especially if the commander is one of the Demons Liliana made her 'deal' with.

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    Maybe. I think Goblins and Elves are a shoe in, what do we think the other two are?
    Slivers? Isn't that one of the casual favorite tribes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    Maybe. I think Goblins and Elves are a shoe in, what do we think the other two are?
    Merfolk, Dragons, Angels - and maybe Zombies or Demons.

    We have to look at it from Commander perspective.

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    I already know how this is gonna end. I will be eagerly waiting for legacy playable goblins and then:

    -A) goblins won't even be one of the tribes
    -B) every goblin will suck

    Gotta hope, though. Seriously, no relevant goblin has been printed since krenko, mob boss. And last 3 blocks (shadows,kaladesh,amonkhet), have been on planes with no goblin. I almost felt offended when i saw red creatures in kaladesh were gremlins and not goblins.

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    Re: Commander 2017 Edition

    For people into Magic lore, are there any major characters that belong to a tribe which have never seen print on a card?
    The 4 Commanders are definitely going to be new cards.

    I believe Serra was a planeswalker, so she's probably out of contention as the commander of an Angel deck...


    Regarding my 'Demon' comment above, it looks like the only 2 of Lili's 4 demons waiting for a card are Razaketh and Belzenlok.
    And the MTG Wiki for Razaketh says he(?)'s on Amonkhet.

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    Certain Planeswalkers can be Commanders. Serra would be an amazing Commander for Angel Tribal.

    However, it feels WotC isn't really fond of all the pre-Jacetice League lore.
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    Re: Commander 2017 Edition

    Well, I think August is a bad time for a Commander release. Christmas time was way better.
    I'm almost glad that they are doing just some tribal decks.

    But what tribes will it be?
    Elves were already in Freyalise Deck.
    Goblins is very likely.
    They did a lot of Zombies stuff in Commander Decks already (Gisa, Geralf, ...). And Zombies get a lot of attention in Standard-legal sets in recent times. I like Zombies very much, but there is almost too much stuff already out there.

    But what else is there?
    Merfolk?
    Soldiers?
    Treefolk would be cool.
    Vampires?
    I don't like Slivers, but I probably wouldn't mind in a Commander release.
    Humans would really be very generic.
    EDIT: Cats!?

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    One of the tribes could be humans, given how much WotC has been pushing humans in Standard and in recent supplementals ie Conspiracy 2 (Sanctum Prelate, Recruiter of the Guard).

    Plus then they have an excuse to reprint Containment Priest for real (not in Invocation form).

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    I think giraffes would make for a fantastic tribe. They're so majestic and flavorful. I think you would give them a choice of Reach, Trample and/or Plainswalk. Their tribal gimmick would be the ability to eat Treefolk creatures or something.
    The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
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    Re: Commander 2017 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian23 View Post
    Certain Planeswalkers can be Commanders. Serra would be an amazing Commander for Angel Tribal.

    However, it feels WotC isn't really fond of all the pre-Jacetice League lore.
    We did get Feldon a few years back.
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    Elves, Merfolk, Goblins, Zombies.
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    Re: Commander 2017 Edition

    Maybe the fae?

    Or elementals. That's a popular tribe of general, innit?

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    Re: Commander 2017 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    I believe Serra was a planeswalker, so she's probably out of contention as the commander of an Angel deck...
    On the flipside, people were disappointed that Serra wasn't the Commander for the Mono-W deck. And as Freyalise has shown, they don't give a shit about the "Oldwalkers are too powerful to print"-dogma anymore.

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