the Best fast U/R pile including banned cards

[raudo]

Firstly I apologize if this is wrong forum. I have been pondering with an idea to build best possible U/R (Delver, Prowess, whatever) deck including Legacy banned cards of new era. Of course, the best possible deck is highly dependent on meta. So let's say the meta is something like current Legacy meta.

So the possible card choices are at least:

Creatures:
Delver of Secrets
Young Pyromancer
Monastery Swiftspear
Stormchaser Mage
Bedlam Reveler
True-Name Nemesis
Thing in the Ice
Grim Lavamancer

Spells:
Treasure Cruise
Mental Misstep
Gitaxian Probe
Gush
Force of Will
Daze
Frantic Search
Brainstorm
Ponder
Lightning Bolt
Chain Lightning
Temporal Mastery
Remand
Spell Snare
Spell Pierce
Stifle
Dig Through Time

Lands:
Volcanic Island
Scalding Tarn
Polluted Delta
Flooded Strand
Misty Rainforest
Bloodstained Mire
Steam Vents
Mountain
Island
Wasteland

Here is the first random pile without proper testing:
Creatures (10):
4x Delver of Secrets
4x Monastery Swiftspear
2x Bedlam Reveler

Spells (34):
4x Force of Will
4x Brainstorm
4x Frantic Search
3x Treasure Cruise
4x Mental Misstep
4x Daze
3x Gush
4x Gitaxian Probe
4x Lightning Bolt

Lands (16):
4x Volcanic Island
4x Scalding Tarn
2x Polluted Delta
1x Flooded Strand
1x Bloodstained Mire
2x Island
2x Mountain


Edit: Forgot Gitaxian Probe: added now

[Poron]

4 Treasure Cruise, always.

[raudo]

So many good cards that is hard to drop any card. I hope the island count is good enough for Gush and there are enough creatures too. Have to playtest this and see if any Legacy deck can challenge this. :)

[lavafrogg]

I think you have to much draw and not enough gas ie more burn.

I do not see the problem in picking the best draw engine, a bunch of cantrips, and a shit ton of burn spells.

1 Bloodstained Mire
2 Island
2 Mountain
4 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Volcanic Island

4 Delver of Secrets/Insectile Aberration
2 Grim Lavamancer
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Stormchaser Mage

4 Chain Lightning
3 Gitaxian Probe
4 Treasure Cruise
4 Brainstorm
4 Daze/Mental Mistep
4 Force of Will
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Price of Progress

This is a list from the cruise era, I think treasure cruise is better in this iteration than gush... maybe not frantic search, but chaining cruises is better than chaining searches. Multiple price of progress also beats most of the format.

[mistercakes]

I'm confused, is this intended to be played vs current legacy decks or other decks with unbanned cards? If so, is everything unbanned that isn't vintage power?

[raudo]

I'd like to playtest this first with current Legacy meta and see if this beats all decks reliable. And yes no Vintage Power here but pretty much everything else that suits the color and theme is ok.

[mistercakes]

what is the purpose of this? just want to make sure that this kind of experiment will even help you.

[raudo]

Just to play with the cool banned cards and test their power and decks power level when they are together.

[mistercakes]

then just play jar.dec or flash.dec very "cool" decks.

[Julian23]

Since this is neither a Legacy and probably also not intended to be a Vintage deck, I moved this to the Casual forum.