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    [P8S: Pre 8th Singleton] Format Review + 5 Color Control

    Hi! Me and my friends are turning back to magic, searching for the feeling of ours first days of MtG, playing old cards and mostly 1x 'cose we played with what we found on boosters pack and 1to1 trades. We tried a full fledged legacy or vintage and felt that it was "to much" with the new rules and always increasing power level, so we falled back to basics. pun intended.

    Our variant is intended for both multiplayer then singleplayer games (mostly we make two rounds of duel games and then a free for all game w/ 5 players) so, deck should be suited both for duel then multiplayer metagame.

    For the same reason the banlist that we are using is a sum of the QL MAGIC, MTG COMMANDER and DUELCOMMANDER. At the moment i feel that's a little hindering for artifact based deck and slightly for combo, so i appreciate your advice on that.

    Amulet of Quoz
    Ancestral Recall
    Ancient Tomb
    Back to Basics
    Balance
    Biorhythm
    Black Lotus
    Braids, Cabal Minion
    Brain Freeze
    Bronze Tablet
    Channel
    Chaos Orb
    Coalition Victory
    Contract from Below
    Darkpact
    Demonic Attorney
    Entomb
    Falling Star
    Fastbond
    Food Chain
    Gaea's Cradle
    Goblin Recruiter
    Grim Monolith
    Hermit Druid
    Humility
    Hunting Pack
    Imperial Seal
    Jeweled Bird
    Karakas
    Library of Alexandria
    Limited Resources
    Loyal Retainers
    Mana Crypt
    Mana Drain
    Mana Vault
    Mind Twist
    Mind's Desire
    Mishra's Workshop
    Mox Diamond
    Mox Emerald
    Mox Jet
    Mox Pearl
    Mox Ruby
    Mox Sapphire
    Mystical Tutor
    Natural Order
    Oath of Druids
    Rebirth
    Recurring Nightmare
    Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
    Shahrazad
    Sol Ring
    Squee, Goblin Nabob
    Strip Mine
    Tempest Efreet
    Tendrils of Agony
    The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    Time Vault
    Time Walk
    Timmerian Fiends
    Tinker
    Tolarian Academy
    Trade Secrets
    Upheaval
    Vampiric Tutor
    Worldgorger Dragon
    Yawgmoth's Bargain


    We use the classic 60+ cards deck + 15 cards sideboard, 20 starting Life Points and the comprhensive ruleset from 7th ed. REPORTED HERE. The major features are 1. Combat damage goes on stack 2. Mana Burn 3. Artifacts deactivate when tapped 4. No Exile zone (removed from play zone) 5. Original Legend Rule 6. Simultaneous Mulligans.


    5 COLOR CONTROL
    In a unknown and various metagame 2003 articles from starcitygames.com advice to put togheder the rock-solid "The Deck" uberknown control deck.

    Reading the advice and mixing it with some my personal taste, to adjust it to our deckbuilding rules, i came with this

    CC / CARDNAME

    + Finisher 1
    5 Cromat

    + Spot Removal 6
    1 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Terminate
    2 Disenchant
    2 Naturalize
    2 Diabolic Edict
    3 Vindicate

    + Card advatage 3
    2 Standstill
    4 Fact or finction
    6 Opportunity

    + Recursion 2
    3 Timetwister
    3 Yawgmoth's will

    Tutor 7
    1 Personal tutor
    1 Enlightened Tutor
    2 Demonic tutor
    2 Burning wish
    2 Cunning wish
    2 Living wish
    2 Lim-Dûl's Vault

    + Mass Removal 3
    4 Nevinyrral's Disk
    2 Pernicious deed
    6 Akroma's Vengeance

    + Cantrips
    1 Brainstorm
    1 Sleight of hand
    1 Opt
    1 Portent

    Counters 9
    0 Force of will
    2 Mana leak
    2 Evasive action
    2 Counterspell
    3 Dissipate
    1 Power sink
    1 Spell blast
    1 Syncopate
    4 Dismiss

    + Lands 25
    + + 2 Colors: 9
    Underground Sea
    Tundra
    Tropical Island
    Volcanic Island
    Bayou
    Badlands
    Scrublands
    Savannah
    Plateau
    + + Fetch: 5
    Bloodstained Mire
    Flooded Strand
    Polluted Delta
    Windswept Heath
    Wooded Foothills
    + + 5 Colors: 1
    City of Brass
    + + 2 Colors Painlands: 4
    Yavimaya coast
    Underground river
    Adarkar Wastes
    Shivan reef
    + + Utility: 1
    Volrath's Stronghold


    WishBoard/Sideboards
    CC / CARDNAME

    Sideboard/Wishboard
    + Instants
    + + Counters
    0 Thwart
    0 Misdirection
    + + Enchantment Removal Spot/Global
    5 Allay
    2 Tranquil domain
    + + Creature Removal Spot/Global
    1 Ghastly Demise
    4 starstorm
    + + Card Advantage
    4 Skeletal Scrying
    6 Whispers of the Muse
    + + Catch All
    3 dromar's charm
    + + Bounce
    6 capsize
    + + Artifact Removal
    5 shattering pulse
    + + Graveyard Hate
    1 Ebony Charm

    + Sorceries
    + + Land Removal Spot/Global
    2 Sinkhole
    + + Artifact Removal Spot/Global
    4 Meltdown
    + + Enchantment Removal Global
    2 Hull Breach
    3 Tranquility
    + + Graveyard Hate
    2 Morningtide
    + +Creature Removal
    2 Chainer's Edict
    4 Rolling Earthquake
    + + Recursion
    2 Nostalgic Dreams
    + + Card Advantage
    4 Deep analysis

    + Creatures
    + + Wincon
    6 Draco
    + + Counter
    4 mystic snake
    + + Recursion Artifact/Enchantment
    1 Tragic Poet
    1 Rootwater Diver
    3 Auramancer
    3 Treasure Hunter
    5 Anarchist
    5 Scrivener
    6 Time Spiral

    + Lands
    + + Land Remvoval
    Wasteland


    As you can see the side list isn't refined yet.

    As his predecessor "the deck" this one aims to counter/remove the majoity of threats on board and stack, catching up with mass removals and 3+ card drawes, then landing a cromat (that i'm not 100% of but packs some utilty like morphling) and have a 4 turn clock. Deck tries to find answers trought tutors instead of cantrips due to the low count of similar cards. obviously the wishboard tires to pack the most wide array of solutions for each wish.

    On the multiplayer game i see that the deck lacks a wincon that could be significant for more then 1 player and an heavy recursion engine to reuse mass removals and maybe.

    At the moment the "metagame" that i'm facing is: 1. Mono U Control/Steal, 2. Mono B Hand/Land Distruption 3. Enchantress 4. Goblins with Patriarch's Bidding and Living Death.

    Every advice is welcome, thx for reading!
    Last edited by TheG; 05-27-2017 at 06:28 AM.

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