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Death's Shadow has seen some fringe play in legacy, my favorite shadow deck is still Greg Hatch's that played it + niv magus elemental. I haven't seen coverage yet but I bet it's based on the MTGO list that recently did well in the Legacy challenge on mtgo.Originally Posted by Hopo
Honestly, I wasn't that impressed from the Death's Shadow deck. It seemed like a deck that auto-scoops to Chalice on 1....
Thats not an uncommon weakness in Legacy really. The deck has that issue in Modern as well. Overall, when you want to beat people down with a 1 drop 9/9, I would take the trade of "Burn and Chalice will fuck me." I mean that's the trade I take when I play it in Modern.
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Fuck. Which one of my quotes do I drop for this?
Is Chalice actually a card people play in Modern? No sol lands + no cantrip cartel makes it seem like Chalice would be pretty mediocre overall.
I agree with the Deaths Shadow deck looking mediocre, it just looked like a much worse version of a normal Delver deck. I would imagine Grixis delver would shitcan that pile with DRS and Bolt for reach while you're killing yourself with your mana base and Pyromancer to spit out chump blockers. It's also not a real threat against combo decks.
From nothing came teeth.
Yes. It actually sees more play in Modern than it does in Legacy as it is a mainstay in one of the top decks, Colourless Tron.
It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
I hope your afterlife is filled with eternal torment.
Fuck. Which one of my quotes do I drop for this?
It really just seems like a different flavor of a tempo/Delver deck, maybe better sometimes, maybe worse.
Never discount the fact that Josh is probably a good bit better a Magic than the average player accounting for some number of those wins.
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I'm too busy to watch much this weekend. But if there is any footage of Lands, I'd love too see some links when the dust settles.
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Miracles 10-0 destroying grixis 2-0. Rudy "newmiracles sucks" Briszka is gonna eat some crow this weekend methinks.
Yeah, I'd assume that Josh being one of the best players in the world is a bigger factor in his record than any particular deck choice. I still think Deaths Shadow on its own seems suboptimal in Legacy, what with Fatal Push, Decay, and most importantly StP being everywhere.
From nothing came teeth.
In terms of playability, it would seem like the top banning hurt Painter, Doomsday, 12-Post and Nic Fit more than it hurt Miracles. That game was insane and Miracles looked great the whole time.
William "Miracles will be a fringe deck at best" Jensen (really slow to the party, saying it yesterday), too.
Who would have guessed that top being banned would hurt nonblue decks that are relying on it as a consistency engine?
Were the games really that good? Game 1 looked like your standard control vs control battle where the person with the Jace the longest won with Lucas scooping a little prematurely (imo) and in game 2 that was a pretty lucky brainstorm into blood moon/snapcaster although with Predict/Portent/BS/Ponder you can argue that you were bound to find those combination of cards. Not discounting topless miracles, terminus is a busted card and the UW control shell is still amazing.
It remains to be seen, but I suspect the Top ban will prove to demote Miracles from tier-0.5 to regular tier-1.
I know Lands is much better against the new build, hopefully it will have some other tough MUs and be kept in check.
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Top was absolutely the right ban, even if a few fringe decks were thrown under the bus for it. Sucks for them, but it's never the fair decks that get the cards banned, it's the degenerate decks. And Top Miracles was absolutely degenerate, considering it's 3 years of uncontested dominance, whether you live in denial about it or not.
But then again, Legacy's cantrips are still overpowered bullshit, the sky is blue and water is wet. More news at 11.
The main reason to run Shadow in Modern is you are the best Fetch/Shock Land deck in the format. Modern is all about the mana bases, tron and Eldrazi do the best of what they are allowed to in their niches, same with Affinity. For all the decks that run Fetches and Shocks, Shadow actually incentivizes you for being as greedy as possible and turns the draw backs in to a bonus.
Legacy there isn't a reason to run shocks, you are making your self into the worst fetch land deck as opposed to the best.
I wonder if anyone will ever explore Tarnished Citadel for Legacy Death Shadow. It gives you an incentive to being 5 colour with a beneficial draw back. Probably not good enough.
I don't understand how the coverage can be this bad. Not the commentary, which is the same as it's always been: but rather the trimmings. How is it possible that I just watched 3 of the same Hour of Devastation ads running back to back and in complete silence? Clearly they would rather I entertain myself by complaining about the coverage than watch it.
Though I guess with the number of people watching this event, I shouldn't complain.
It's actually embarrassing. They're trying to promote a MASSIVE GP, that has a ton of people watching and they can't even get a proper stream going for any length of time?
WTF are they using, a smartphone tethered to run their video? JFC guys, it's 2017, invest into a better internet connection.
Yeah where are the back up matches?
I'll play Devil's Advocate here - I was at another TCG's National event last weekend, and the venue's Internet connectivity was fucking awful outside of the reception, which had a single hard-line. The TO had to not only provide their own hardware, they had to spend all of the night before setting it up so that the planes overhead didn't interfere with the connection. So it's not impossible that the connection was just that shitty.
Still, Wizards should damn well know better by now. I know CFB's Wizards Event team will pay better attention next year.
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