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    Ruby Storm

    Fun Vintage Cards:



    The Legacy Equivalent



    How?



    Mind's Desire for 4 still seems to be pretty good! Flipping over a Seething Song almost pays for itself. Flipping over a ritual effect and a Past in Flames or Reforge the Soul is almost always game over.

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/689113#online

    What is this deck?
    As the name implies, it's a combo deck. Its goal is to generate enough storm to kill with goblins, grapeshot damage, or tendrils damage. It doesn't really play any tutor effects, so to compensate it plays many cards that have similar functionality.

    Why would I play this?
    You like playing combo. You don't like playing the same deck as everyone else. You don't like playing the same old same old 4 brainstorm 4 ponder fetchland kinds of decks. You like playing with really powerful cards.

    Why shouldn't I play this?
    You prefer to control your consistency via cantrips. You like to protect yourself more with discard/counterspells. You like playing decks with statistically higher win %'s.

    What version suits your personality?
    This version has a bunch of options! I'd say there's about 45 cards that are more or less set in stone, but the other 15 can really change the dynamic of the deck.
    If you're more into rolling the dice, you can run a bunch of Hazoret's Undying Fury and shuffle+flip.
    If you're more into the concept of this deck, but want to play some more consistent and safer cards, there's a version for that.
    If you think playing storm without LED is a mistake, there's a version for that too.


    Here's some lists w/ matchups from people posting on the thread. (paper tourneys only)

    Original list when thread name was renamed to Mono Red Storm, we were just testing belcher, so i wouldn't take the sb too seriously there.
    4 July 2017

    10 Mountain
    4 Ancient Tomb
    2 Act on Impulse
    4 Burning Wish
    1 Desperate Ritual
    3 Empty the Warrens
    3 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    4 Helm of Awakening
    4 Lotus Petal
    4 Manamorphose
    3 Past in Flames
    2 Reforge the Soul
    4 Rite of Flame
    4 Ruby Medallion
    4 Seething Song
    4 Simian Spirit Guide

    sideboard

    1 Cave-In
    1 Empty the Warrens
    3 Goblin Charbelcher
    1 Goblin War Strike
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    1 Mizzix's Mastery
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Reforge the Soul
    3 Surgical Extraction
    1 Shattering Spree

    26 July 2017 (been busy with baby)

    mistercakes (2-2)
    beat ANT
    lost BANT
    beat DNT
    lost 4c control

    //lands
    12 mountain
    4 ancient tomb

    //ramp
    4 lotus petal
    4 simian spirit guide
    4 rite of flame
    4 seething song
    4 manamorphose
    4 ruby medallion

    //big spells
    4 reforge the soul
    3 hazoret's undying fury
    4 burning wish
    4 chandra, torch of defiance
    3 past in flames

    //flex spots
    1 magma jet
    1 fiery confluence

    //sideboard
    2 tormod's crypt
    3 defense grid
    3 scab-clan berserker
    2 rending volley
    1 tendrils of agony
    1 grapeshot
    1 by force
    1 empty the warrens
    1 past in flames


    Hadhod (4-1)
    beat eldrazi, stoneblade, grixis delver, tezzerator
    lost turbo depths


    // 60 Mazzo
    // 12
    12 Mountain

    // 11 Artifact
    4 Lotus Petal
    4 Ruby Medallion
    3 Defense Grid

    // 4 Creature
    4 Simian Spirit Guide

    // 5 Instant
    4 Seething Song
    1 Commune with Lava

    // 4 Land
    4 Ancient Tomb

    // 2 Planeswalker
    2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance

    // 22 Sorcery
    4 Burning Wish
    2 Empty the Warrens
    3 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    2 Past in Flames
    3 Reforge the Soul
    4 Rite of Flame
    4 Gitaxian Probe


    // 15 Sideboard
    // 4 Creature
    SB: 2 Sulfur Elemental
    SB: 2 Scab-Clan Berserker

    // 4 Instant
    SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
    SB: 2 Lightning Bolt

    // 7 Sorcery
    SB: 1 Empty the Warrens
    SB: 1 Grapeshot
    SB: 1 Past in Flames
    SB: 1 Reforge the Soul
    SB: 1 Pyroclasm
    SB: 1 By Force
    SB: 1 Hazoret's Undying Fury


    DeliriumFit 3-1
    beat maverick, dnt, goblins
    lost to taxes

    Lands (14)
    4x Ancient Tomb
    10x Mountain

    Enablers (19)
    4 Burning Wish
    3 Act on Impulse
    1 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    3 Reforge the Soul
    3 Past in Flames
    2 Gitaxian Probe
    2 Empty the Warrens

    Storm (27)
    4 Ruby Medallion
    3 Helm of Awakening
    4 Lotus Petal
    2 Simian Spirit Guide
    4 Seething Song
    4 Manamorphose
    4 Rite of Flame
    3 Desperate Ritual

    Sideboard (15)
    3x Pyroblast
    2x Sulfur Elemental
    1x Pyroclasm
    1x Hazoret's Undying Fury
    1x Reforge the Soul
    1x Past in Flames
    1x Ignite Memories
    1x Grapeshot
    1x Empty the Warrens
    1x Tendrills of Agony
    1x Goblin War Strike
    1x Act on Impulse


    Ferrerothorn (4-0)
    beat belcher, loam, bug elves, grixis delver

    3x Empty the Warrens
    4x Burning Wish
    3x Hazoret's Undying Fury
    3x Past in Flames
    2x Reforge the Soul
    2x Act on Impulse
    4x Helm of Awakening
    4x Ruby Medallion
    4x Manamorphose
    4x Seething Song
    4x Simian Spirit Guide
    4x Rite of Flame
    4x Lotus Petal
    1x Desperate Ritual
    Lands:
    10x Mountain
    4x Ancient Tomb

    Wishboard/Sideboard:
    1x Empty the Warrens (Wish)
    1x Hazoret's Undying Fury (Wish)
    1x Grapeshot (Wish)
    1x Shattering Spree (Wish)
    1x Reforge the Soul (Wish)
    1x Mizzix's Mastery (Wish)
    1x Past in Flames (Wish)
    1x Goblin War Strike (Wish)
    2x Cave-In (Wish)
    3x Relic of Progenitus (Side)
    2x Red Elemental Blast (Side)

    Vieko (2-2)

    Beat BR reanimator, elves
    lose maverick, dnt

    14 LAND
    12 Mountain
    2 City of Traitors

    8 RITUAL
    4 Rite of Flame
    4 Seething Song

    8 MANA
    4 Lotus Petal
    4 Lion's Eye Diamond

    6 REDUCTION
    4 Ruby Medallion
    2 Helm of Awakening

    5 TUTOR
    4 Burning Wish
    1 Gamble

    5 EXILE / PLAY
    3 Act on Impulse
    2 Commune with Lava

    4 MANA / DRAW
    4 Manamorphose

    4 PEEK / DRAW
    4 Gitaxian Probe

    2 DISCARD / DRAW
    2 Tormenting Voice

    2 STORM
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Empty the Warrens

    1 FLASHBACK
    1 Past in Flames

    1 DISRUPT / DRAW
    1 Reforge the Soul


    SIDEBOARD
    2 Blood Moon
    2 Abrade
    2 Tormod's Crypt
    2 Scab-Clan Berserker
    1 Goblin War Strike
    1 Tendrils of Agony
    1 Empty the Warrens
    1 Past in Flames
    1 By Force
    1 Pyroclasm
    1 Sudden Demise

    Krasman (5-0)
    Beat Miracles, ANT, DNT, Twin Blade, Twin blade again

    Deck List
    Business:
    4x Hazoret's Undying Fury
    4x Burning Wish
    4x Reforge the Soul
    3x Past in Flames
    3x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
    1x Act on Impulse

    Mana:
    4x Ruby Medallion
    4x Lotus Petal
    3x Simian Spirit Guide
    4x Rite of Flame
    2x Pyretic Ritual
    4x Manamorphose
    4x Seething Song

    Acutal Mana:
    4x Ancient Tomb
    12x Mountain

    Sideboard:
    1x Tendrils of Agony
    1x Grapeshot
    1x Empty the Warrens
    1x Past in Flames
    1x Goblin War Strike
    2x Sudden Demise
    3x Pyroclasm
    3x Scab-Clan Berserker
    2x Act of Impulse

    Dan Pyre (4-0)

    beat high tide, grixis delver, sneak n show, grixis delver

    Sorcery (22)
    3 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    3 Past in Flames
    3 Reforge the Soul
    3 Act on Impulse
    4 Rite of Flame
    4 Burning Wish
    1 Empty the Warrens
    1 Grapeshot

    Instant (12)
    4 Desperate Ritual
    4 Seething Song
    4 Manamorphose

    Creature (4)
    4 Simian Spirit Guide

    Artifact (8)
    4 Lotus Petal
    4 Ruby Medallion

    Lands (14)
    10 Mountain
    4 Ancient Tomb

    Sideboard (15)

    Sorcery (10)
    1 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Reforge the Soul
    1 Cave-In
    1 Anger of the Gods
    1 Empty the Warrens
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Goblin War Strike
    2 By Force

    Instant (3)
    2 Red Elemental Blast
    1 Pyrokinesis

    Creature (2)
    2 Scab-Clan Berserker
    Last edited by mistercakes; 08-13-2017 at 09:27 AM.
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    Re: Hazoret's Ascension

    I think the more efficient & resilient strategy is Dark Rit -> Doomsday -> Act on Impulse or Three Wishes. Exile an LED or two, and use them to cast cards not in hand.

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    Re: Hazoret's Ascension

    i'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with this deck and if you're going to compare another deck, then just play ANT.
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    Re: Hazoret's Ascension

    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    i'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with this deck and if you're going to compare another deck, then just play ANT.
    It's a 6 mana Act on Impulse. It's a pretty direct comparison. I mean you can free-cast stuff, but this is like tier 5 brewing; move it to modern deck development?

    This is a 6 mana sorcery that lowers its own EV by having any copies of itself in the same deck. 1x it in the sideboard and Wish for it, that's about the only hope for this card getting played/sort of built-around in legacy.

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    Re: Hazoret's Ascension

    it's most certainly not a 6 mana act on impulse. it seems to be a very powerful card. it's my first draft, but i think the deck could be quite strong in its own right. it's major issue is that it is a glass cannon deck. the deck can go off on turn 2-3 pretty consistently (lethal)

    helm of awakening, ruby medallion, burning wish are not modern legal. rite of flame and seething song are banned.

    anyway, constructive criticism is welcomed, but what you mentioned is borderline trolling.
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    Re: Hazoret's Ascension

    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    anyway, constructive criticism is welcomed, but what you mentioned is borderline trolling.
    A good rule to live by concerning Helm of Awakening effects is don't run them; but if you're determined to, you absolutely need to be playing P-Fire.

    The easiest way for big mana, mono-red to win a game of legacy is Chalice on 1 (+/- turbo Moon), and the easiest way to do that is Sol Lands...so you're making a bad Big-Red/Dragon Stompy deck that is as fragile as Belcher but also slower and with built-in nonbos.

    The formula the deck has to adhere to is solved, because all big mana mono-red decks are essentially "cheese" - and that's a valid strategy. It's just hard to take a list like this seriously when it has no 1-drops, huge mana, and no Chalice. Do you want to make a Chalice on 1 Belcher-style deck or do you want to play some strange P-Fire grindy stormy thing? Either way, the 6 drop sorcery has to reside in the board - maybe you were under the impression that if its cost were reduced to 5 or less that it can free-cast itself like Mind's Desire? The cmcs of this deck are pretty outrageous, have you considered Vial Smasher or Sin Prodder?

    Edit: Rite of Flame, there is a one drop.

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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    Something like Pyromancer’s Goggles?


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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    Feel free to try it, I thought it looked too expensive to cast.
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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    Love it, I'm going to run this at our weekly next week! (I only attend fortnightly due to life)

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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    that sounds awesome. i'm really happy some other people are going to play it.

    will you have the new card by then?
    -rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    that sounds awesome. i'm really happy some other people are going to play it.

    will you have the new card by then?
    We allow 30 "playtest" cards so I'll just proxy em :)

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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    that's great.

    i just tried a mtgo league without hazoret's and went 2-3.

    ANT 0-2 (game 1 an AoI whiffed completely), game 2 i got crushed
    UR Delver 2-1 (game 1 i lost to aggro start)
    Red Stompy 2-1
    Food Chain (1-2) won g1, g2 and g3 multiple mindbreak trap + leovold in both games, also force of will in game 3.
    Czech Pile (1-2) won game 1. game 2 i mulled and kept a risky 6 nonland. promptly lost never drawing a land. game 3 i durdled around a bit. he had a strix and a snapcaster. he double thoughseized me but only hit a manamorphose and another ritual. he lands a leovold. only out here is using lots of AoI. i topdeck a chandra and have the past in flames in hand.

    i can hope to chain off of the AoI. i cast desperate ritual, add RRR, cast PiF. he invasive surgery without the kicker thing. then i recast it. he FoW. then i cast chandra reveals burning wish. at this point i only have 1 red mana left. i cast wish anyway and he flusterstorms. sometimes they just have everything!

    deck is obviously a lot more vulnerable to leovold without hazoret's. in this version the deck is more dependent on reforge the soul. had i landed a defense grid, i think i had the game. he abrupt decayed my grid before i got to go off.
    all in all i'm pretty satisfied with this draft considering it doesn't even have the most powerful card in the list.

    the only match that was rough was the storm one, and i have beaten it a few times in the practice room...but you never know how good they are.


    here's the ghetto version i played.

    10 mtn
    4 tomb
    4 petal
    4 grid
    4 wish
    4 desperate
    4 helm
    4 ruby
    4 simian
    4 seething
    4 manamorphose
    4 act on impulse
    2 past in flames
    1 chandra, torch of defiance
    3 reforge the soul

    sb:
    1 rite of flame
    1 apocalypse (seems fun w/ AoI, but probably terrible)
    1 grapeshot
    1 pyroclasm
    4 leyline of the void
    1 helm of obedience
    1 empty the warrens
    1 past in flames
    1 chandra, torch of defiance
    1 reforge the soul
    1 pulverize (what was i thinking?)
    1 by force

    i think until next week this deck can work. the leyline helm wasn't so useful in these matchups, but vs reanimator it would have been great.

    if i knew i was going to play against 3 blue decks 1 combo deck and a stompy deck...i would have played some pyroblasts probably. need to have a way of dealing with leovold. other option is running 2-3 fiery confluence, but i don't have them on modo.

    there should also likely be a cave-in, which i have on my paper list.

    worth double noting. leovold isn't THAT good against this deck compared to other storm decks....when the new card comes out. i'd say the strongest part of leovold is that he stops your manamorphoses from cantripping, which can be important.


    chandra was also pretty great. it won me a game or two (even if it did just cycle a card during the combo turn)

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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    Helm of obedience + leyiline of the void (usually gy hate of monored) in sb is viable imo. Both are an hit with hazoret, and helm is a kill with opponent's rip.


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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by Nocioni88 View Post
    Helm of obedience + leyiline of the void (usually gy hate of monored) in sb is viable imo. Both are an hit with hazoret, and helm is a kill with opponent's rip.
    ...
    I've wondered whether you can cut the land count and run Goblin Charbelcher (which combines with a ritual off Hazoret).

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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    We tried both in earlier versions, belcher is better than the leyline plan. Right now we've been using scab Clan eidolon guy and defense grids. The deck is very capable of winning thorough lots of grave hate, even through leyline of the void.
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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    My current list im messing around with is


    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/689113#paper

    I'm just screwing around with the gifts ungiven. (see my previous post earlier this week.)

    It will likely end up either 2 Act on Impulse or 1 Act on Impulse + 1 led. Or something with an empty the Warrens.

    I need to test more. It's also possible I'll just run another Helm and 1 of those other cards just mentioned. Chandra feels like a good fit. It's easy to cast on turn 2 and even if you brick hard on hazoret's, it's still not too bad if you hit a Chandra.

    LED's work well with past in flames as well, so if you cut the LED's then the deck can also go back to 2 Past in Flames. Gifts version wants 3 Past in Flames so it can more easily kill on the spot. (keep in mind with gifts you likely want to run 2 pyretic ritual and 2 desperate instead of 4 desperate.
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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    Mengucci posted a video today playing against mono red storm, it was you?

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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    Just watched it. That was me. It's an older version of the deck. Whiffing on hazoret's happens. Perhaps in that game 3 I should have baited with the hazoret's and then cast bringing wish for either empty or Reforge.

    Hope it was entertaining, and sorry for playing slow. Newborn in the house so it's likely I was not just playing magic during the match.
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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    here's the list i played last night to a 2-2.

    //lands
    12 mountain
    4 ancient tomb

    //ramp
    4 lotus petal
    4 simian spirit guide
    4 rite of flame
    4 seething song
    4 manamorphose
    4 ruby medallion

    //big spells
    4 reforge the soul
    3 hazoret's undying fury
    4 burning wish
    4 chandra, torch of defiance
    3 past in flames

    //flex spots
    1 magma jet
    1 fiery confluence

    //sideboard
    2 tormod's crypt
    3 defense grid
    3 scab-clan berserker
    2 rending volley
    1 tendrils of agony
    1 grapeshot
    1 by force
    1 empty the warrens
    1 past in flames


    Round 1: Daniel with ANT:

    Daniel and I talk a bunch on facebook, so he's pretty familiar with the concept of the deck...but not so much specific numbers and he has no idea about the current sb. I won the dice roll and my opening hand was pretty sketchy, but knowing he is on ANT and knowing he knew what I was playing I kept.

    Game 1
    SSG, LP, RoF, Seething Song, PiF, Reforge the Soul, Hazoret's. I played out all the cards I could and cast reforge. I didn't get an amazing hand but had a turn 2 ruby followed by a turn 3 kill. Unfortunately for me he was able to kill me on his second turn. At least my reforge revealed his opening hand of Dark Ritual,2 land, LED, infernal tutor and a Past in Flames.
    Game 2
    I cut 2 Chandra, 1 Reforge, 1 Magme Jet, 1 Confluence for 3 Berserker and 2 Crypt.
    Starting hand was: 2 SSG, Hazoret's, Ruby, 2 mtn. (top card was berserker from Mulligan scry)
    I start with a turn 1 ruby. He plays Underground Sea, Duress. Then a petal and another duress. (he was on starting 6). I draw a Scab-Clan Berseker and he can't recover.
    Game 3
    Now he knows some of my SB plan. Opening hand is: Ruby , Mtn, LP, BW, PiF, RoF, SSG.
    He plays a probe, then ponder and shuffles. I draw Berserker. Later he told me that he shuffled away his bounce spell because he saw that the coast was clear and wanted to find a faster combo hand.

    Round 2: Johannes with Bant

    This is the first time I've met Johannes, and he seemed to be a nice guy. I saw he was playing a bunch of countermagic from the previous round.
    I won the die roll and started with a hand of:
    Song, Tomb, RoF, Ruby, Hazoret's, 2 Mountain.

    I play turn 1 ruby and there's no counter. He plays a turn 1 Misty and passes the turn. i played my 2nd land and a petal and passed the turn. (i always like playing petal in case i hit my miracle). He brainstormed and then got a tundra.

    On my turn 3 I play the Tomb following by the rest of the hand and went for it. He didn't have the force (later he showed me a handful of daze and stifle), but unfortunately for me Hazoret's completely whiffed and revealed Petal, SSG, land, land.

    He played KotR on turn 3, and on turn 4 he Tutored up the dark depths to kill me.

    Game 2:
    I mulliganned a reasonable hand but with only 1 land and ruby, but also a rending volley. My 6 is much worse. I didn't really take notes on this one, but he had a turn 1 noble, turn 2 kotr, turn 3 stage and tutor up dark depths. he also had 2 force of will, 2 daze, 1 flusterstorm and a stifle.

    Round 3: Jan with DNT

    I also speak w/ Jan regularly and he's a nice guy. He's always playing DNT, pox, or aggro loam. I knew he was on DNT because he is preparing for Prague. (I'm not going b/c I just had a baby and my wife would kill me!....life's priorities!)

    I didn't take notes but I'll try to remember what happened here:

    Game 1
    I had a turn 1 ruby. I know I had manamorphose and a hazoret's but I needed another mana source. He started with Vial, then port, then he played recruiter on turn 3 to vial in a thalia. (canceling out my ruby). I unfortunately never drew another land until it was too late. Sometimes DNT does what it's supposed to do!

    Game 2

    I start with a turn 1 Ruby. Turn 2 I go for a Hazoret's which hits 4 non lands, including a Ruby, Seething Song, and Reforge The Soul and a Chandra. I won that turn.

    Game 3
    I have another turn 1 Ruby on the draw. I remember preemptively getting a Burning Wish for Canonist. I also drew a Rending Volley while we both durdled for a few turns and then killed his Thalia, and then killed him. I remember Chandra being pretty good here as well.

    R4 Alex

    I've met Alex a few times and another likable guy. He's always playing some kind of Control Brew. This time he's playing 4c control with lots of snapcasters, khologans, flusterstorm, fow, DRS etc.

    Game 1
    I start again with a turn 1 Ruby. (wee) He starts with a ponder. I play a tomb, cast seething song, Burning Wish (it resolves) and I go for 6 goblins. He played a strix, takes 5, plays a DRS, takes 4, then i draw my fiery confluence. I get excited b/c I initially think it can deal 1 damage to only his creatures (stupid german card..or stupid me!) When I play it, I realize what it actually does and choose to deal 6 to him, then attack. he goes down to 3 life, but can gain 2 from the DRS.

    I think had I attacked first then wiped out his DRS and dealt 4 to him I would have been a lot better off. After that turn he killed both of my ruby medallions with khologan's command + snapcaster, played a fluster, FoW, and a Leovold. ouch!

    Game 2
    I start with a defense grid on turn 1. He FoW's. I play another Defense grid on t2. He FoW's. Then he Hymns me discarding ruby, pif. I play a land and Ruby medallion. I miracle a Reforge. This game goes back and forth a lot. He casts 3 FoW's, counterspell, and flusterstorm 3 times and Toxic Deluge for my goblins. He also played surgical extraction twice. Once on my Chandra and once on my ...I have no idea.

    Then board position at the near end was the following

    My Chandra (6 Loyalty) + Ruby + some lands + Petals. vs his DRS, Snapcaster, and Jace TMS with 3 Counters.

    My hand is Chandra, and I draw a burning wish. He's tapped out too with all sources. If I can resolve Wish to get Past in Flames I win easily here.

    I start my turn by +1 chandra and reveal nothing good. I cast Simian Spirit guide as a blocker to protect Chandra. Then I cast Burning Wish, he FoW #4. This is not so insanely lucky b/c I did wheel at least 2 or maybe 3 times at this point and he was cantripping like crazy to find more counters. (he had about 20 cards left in his deck, I had counted).

    Then I played the next Chandra to see if I can hit the PiF naturally from the deck. I whiff and deal 2 to Jace, then I cast a Simian Spirit guide. It wasn't enough and I died.

    In hindsight what I should have done was create a threat to his Jace. Chandra, deal 2 to his Jace, set it to 1. Then play the 2nd Chandra, he would likely FoW this to protect his Jace. Then I was free to cast Wish into PiF into a win.

    I also chose not to board in the Berserker, which was maybe a mistake. I boarded in rending volleys and grids, which are great, but I could have also boarded in the 3 guys and taken out some of the more All in combo stuff. Hazoret's is still really good with berserker grid chandra etc.

    We played a third game for fun without SB and I was able to overwhelm his countermagic and discard. That felt nice.

    Fortunately in Berlin the players are good and it's always a good learning experience. Carsten Kotter, Alex and Daniel was there as well and we discussed the deck a little bit on the train ride back. Carsten is pretty innovative so I like to hear his opinions. He said that I should really consider Blood Moon in this version, and the ability to steal game 1's randomly is probably worth it. I don't really have a good argument to that especially now that I am running 4 Chandra. I feel in the other versions, especially the LED version, blood moon is too often a dead card.

    with an update this deck has 4 blood moon, 4 chandra and then the rest is a combo deck. i still need to test it, but it feels like if not going for the other plans it could be a solid option.

    This archetype could really go 3 ways.

    Midrange with blood moon and chandra. it can still win with turn 1 hands if you're super lucky. (something like turn 1 hazoret's into wheel + seething song can easily get there). it can also end a game with t1 blood moon or even t1 chandra can steal a lot of games. it's also got some good topdecks with 3 reforge, hazoret's, chandra and past in flames.

    LED combo. This version is trying to abuse as much as possible with exile cards temporarily so that they can be cast with LED or other rituals. It's by far the fastest version and is also likely the most fun to goldfish. Deck is not as resilient as midrange, but if you can hit your land drops Commune with Lava can easily keep blue decks under control. I feel like this deck is likely to win mostly on turn 3, but it can still win on turn 1 as well.

    8 rock. 4 ruby and 4 helm of obedience. This version is trying to maximize the amount of spells that would be broken if they cost 1 or 2 less. It's also the most budget friendly version, but it is quite capable of turn 1 and likely has the most turn 2 kills since a turn 1 rock is very easy to accomplish. Consider this the turn 2 deck.

    midrange = turn 3-5
    LED = turn 3-4
    8 rock = turn 2-3

    the deck is still in its infancy but it is super fun to play. it's also nice to play a storm deck that doesn't run counterspells or discard and isn't a glass cannon like belcher, spanish inquisition, or oops all spells.

    here's my latest version of the midrange. vieko is the expert on the LED version, and I feel like the 8 rock should be somebody else's baby if they're willing! they can start with some of the other builds in the thread.

    4 Seething Song
    4 Lion's Eye Diamond
    4 Rite of Flame
    4 Burning Wish
    4 Ruby Medallion
    4 Blood Moon
    4 Lotus Petal
    3 Past in Flames
    3 Reforge the Soul
    4 Manamorphose
    2 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    4 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
    4 Ancient Tomb
    12 Mountain

    sb:

    2 Empty the Warrens
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Reforge the Soul
    1 Tendrils of Agony
    1 By Force
    1 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    2 Rending Volley
    3 Scab-Clan Berserker
    2 Tormod's Crypt


    this is not a 100% set in stone list, and is still in testing phases. depending on the meta as well, empty the warrens maindeck over some of those numbers could be correct.

    if stealing games w/ blood moon isn't your thing, i'd recommend this configuration for the midrange:

    4 ancient tomb
    12 mountain
    4 lotus petal
    4 rite of flame
    4 burning wish
    4 manamorphose
    4 ruby medallion
    4 seething song
    4 simian spirit guide
    3 empty the warrens
    3 past in flames
    3 chandra, torch of defiance
    3 reforge the soul
    3 hazoret's undying fury
    1 reiterate

    sb:
    1 Goblin War Strike
    1 Empty the Warrens
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Reforge the Soul
    1 Tendrils of Agony
    1 By Force
    1 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    2 Rending Volley
    3 Scab-Clan Berserker
    2 Tormod's Crypt


    notice that reiterate can allow you to get infinite storm with a Ruby and a seething song. also copying a hazoret's seems reasonably unfair.
    Last edited by mistercakes; 07-26-2017 at 08:56 PM.
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    Re: Mono Red Storm

    Just curious: how many games have you played out where you had the choice between EtW or Reforge the soul? It happened to me several times in testing (I also play 3 maindeck warrens) and I had to choose. I only had a storm count of maybe 3, with 5 mana floating (no Ruby) and I had to choose 8 goblins or Reforge and hope I don't brick. Both times it was turn 2, trying to force a window against DnT (their turn 2 would be Thalia, with a port already online to lock me out turns 3+.) I thought the warrens would help with speed, but instead it became too awkward. My thought is to have more mana spells (Desperate Ritual up to 4) to enable fast Warrens games and to trim down a bit on the ancillary cards (Hazoret's, Act on Impulse, both as singeltons maybe.) Currently I am just trimming an EtW for another DRitual.

    How about Gamble, searching out PiF? Have you tried that?

    EDIT: Chandra is looking sexier and sexier in this deck...does everything you want. Interaction, removal, mana, and an ultimate that kills opponents. I might have to buckle down and trade into a set.
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