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    Re: Ruby Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    They're both still brews. I think it's just Josef on the blue list. Always hoping for more cards with each set.

    What kind of build are you looking to build?
    So far, after a quick look at a couple of pages back, I've been playing with this list:

    4 Wish
    4 Act on Impulse
    1 Reforge the Soul
    2 Hazoret's Undying Fury
    1 Gamble
    2 Past in Flames
    1 Empty the Warrens

    4 Lotus Petal
    4 Lion's Eye Diamond
    4 Seething Song
    4 Manamorphose
    4 Rite of Flame

    4 Gitaxian Probe
    2 Lightning Bolt

    4 Ruby Medallion
    2 Helm of Awakening

    11 Mountain
    3 Ancient Tomb

    SB:

    1 Tendrils of Agony
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Empty the Warrens
    1 Reforge the Soul
    1 By Force
    1 Goblin War Strike
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Gamble
    1 Cave In
    1 Hull Breach
    3 Defense Grid
    2 Scrab-Clan Berserker

    It served me well back then, but now I see a lot of people playing the fourth Rite of Flame SB and a couple of Bonus Rounds. Is the RoF SB really that important? I can see it being decent with Bonus Round, and that's the reason it's in there?

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    Re: Ruby Storm

    So Yes this is a punnisher card, but hear me out:



    So if we cast this off of a bonus round and making a lot of mana, they can't let us draw 6 and then 6 off the jump start, that would be insane. But if you deal 8 then 8, that's also a whole bunch of damage, and that's only off of one Bonus Round and one Risk Factor.

    Yes it's less good on it's own before a bonus round, but is it that much worse than other pre combo cards?

    This might be worth testing out.

    Bonus round makes this way more powerful than it would be normally. Also reducing it's casting costs is powerful and something this deck is doing already.

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    Re: Ruby Storm

    It's the same as browbeat, but with flashback. If I were to try a list, it would be with 4 of this, 4 browbeat, 4 bolt, 4 bonus round.
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    Re: Ruby Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by ReAnimator View Post
    So if we cast this off of a bonus round and making a lot of mana
    Most cards are really good in that situation :) But this can be deal 16 damage(if jumpstarted) when opponent is at 20 life and then you fizzle out.

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    Re: Ruby Storm

    Has anyone tried a heavy Grapeshot maindeck list with Bonus Round yet? I was thinking 4x Bonus Round, 3x Grapeshot (4th in the wishboard.) It might not be lethal, but it could generate enough value to keep the board clear or take a sizable chunk out of the opponent's life total. Spreading it out over a couple turns seems fine, considering that's often what needs to be done anyways.
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    Re: Ruby Storm

    grapeshot doesn't work very well with bonus round. it will not trigger an additional storm. (up to you whether you still think it's worth it, i don't think the value is good enough)



    this one looks sweet. dunno how good it is, but seems really cool, also incentivizes fetch lands quite a bit.
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    Re: Ruby Storm

    Seems really good with LED, honestly. EDIT: Oops, I thought it allowed cards in the graveyard to be played. THAT would be bonkers.

    Has anyone seen the Mizzix's Mastery + Dragonstorm deck yet? You get a DStorm for only 4 mana if you can bin it with Faithless Looting/Tormenting Voice. (Yes storm triggers, you are casting the copy.)
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    Re: Ruby Storm

    It's still good but doesn't pair well with Reforge or manamorphose.

    That dragonstorm list is pretty old. It's fine, but I think it's a different deck than this one.

    Storm does not trigger with copies. They are being placed directly on the stack.
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    Re: Ruby Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    It's still good but doesn't pair well with Reforge or manamorphose.

    That dragonstorm list is pretty old. It's fine, but I think it's a different deck than this one.

    Storm does not trigger with copies. They are being placed directly on the stack.
    So you're saying he basically gets *one* copy of dragonstorm if he does it with Mizzix Mastery? That seems incredibly stupid to build around.
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    Re: Ruby Storm

    no i was referencing something completely different. when you use bonus round and get a copy, that copy does not trigger storm.

    i was referencing your comment here, "Mr. Safety
    Has anyone tried a heavy Grapeshot maindeck list with Bonus Round yet? I was thinking 4x Bonus Round, 3x Grapeshot (4th in the wishboard.) It might not be lethal, but it could generate enough value to keep the board clear or take a sizable chunk out of the opponent's life total. Spreading it out over a couple turns seems fine, considering that's often what needs to be done anyways."

    so if you cast something like

    seething song, seething song, bonus round, grapeshot.

    storm will trigger and bonus round will trigger. when both resolve you'll have a total of 4 copies, + the original = 5 damage.

    unrelated, mizzix mastery does cast the spell (dragonstorm most of the time), so storm will trigger in that case.
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    Re: Ruby Storm

    Ok thanks! I just figured mini-chains with Bonus Round (not doubling Grapeshot, just doubling rituals/engine pieces) could make Grapeshot into a value card rather than a one-turn win. One strength of Ruby Storm is that it actually scales up the later the game goes, rather than the other way around for TES/ANT. I'm not saying we can go forever, but rebuilding with a single Ritual into Past in Flames can be game over. I can also see the value in casting 2 Grapeshots as a way to double it up in a turn, something that Modern storm does all the time.
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    Re: Ruby Storm

    that's true. i've tried it and overall it depends on the meta. grapeshot into pif into flashback grapeshot is a thing as well. i think i'd rather run empty over grapeshot if i want another maindeck storm spell though.
    -rob

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    If we can mitigate the problem of lands being on top of the deck..the new enchantment could be a solid engine. What are ways to do so? Draw cards/looting? Shuffle or potential self mill. And if it's worthwhile wwe blow it up and unlock the hand. Given that it's play we can play a land per turn off the library. This has to be worth building around right?

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    Re: Ruby Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by Knighthawk View Post
    If we can mitigate the problem of lands being on top of the deck..the new enchantment could be a solid engine.
    First thing that comes to mind is Mana Severance. But I'm a bit skeptical about the enchantment simply because you'd have to build around it to make full use of it, and being dependent on specific cards translates into extra vulnerability. Being reliant on Ruby is enough IMO. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but those are my thoughts for the moment.

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    Re: Ruby Storm

    i like the enchantment but not having access to draws off of manamorphose and reforge can be a bit rough. 4 mana is also not the easiest when there's not an immediate payoff (unless if you manage to chain a bunch of rituals off the top).

    i think it can be tested, and discarded if it sucks.
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