going to try 3 rite of flame over the 3 city of traitors. hopefully with 15 initial red sources the deck should help for more explosive starts. i guess it's more of a balance...
any other good red spells here? i tried faithless, but it wasn't really working well.
-rob
// 60 Maindeck
// 12 Artifact
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Helm of Awakening
4 Lotus Petal
// 4 Creature
4 Simian Spirit Guide
// 12 Instant
4 Manamorphose
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Seething Song
// 11 Land
7 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
// 1 Planeswalker
1 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
// 20 Sorcery
4 Burning Wish
3 Past in Flames
3 Reforge the Soul
3 Act on Impulse
4 Wildfire
3 Rite of Flame
// 15 Sideboard
// 4 Enchantment
SB: 4 Blood Moon
// 2 Planeswalker
SB: 2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
// 9 Sorcery
SB: 1 Past in Flames
SB: 1 Reforge the Soul
SB: 1 Empty the Warrens
SB: 2 Grapeshot
SB: 3 Fiery Confluence
SB: 1 Rite of Flame
-rob
Tweaked it a little more
// 60 Maindeck
// 12 Artifact
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Helm of Awakening
4 Lotus Petal
// 4 Creature
4 Simian Spirit Guide
// 12 Instant
4 Manamorphose
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Seething Song
// 13 Land
9 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
// 19 Sorcery
4 Burning Wish
3 Past in Flames
3 Reforge the Soul
3 Act on Impulse
4 Hazoret's Undying Fury
2 Rite of Flame
// 15 Sideboard
// 4 Enchantment
SB: 4 Blood Moon
// Artifact
SB: 4 Defense Grid
// 7 Sorcery
SB: 1 Past in Flames
SB: 1 Reforge the Soul
SB: 1 Empty the Warrens
SB: 2 Grapeshot
SB: 1 Fiery Confluence
SB: 1 Rite of Flame
Last edited by mistercakes; 07-01-2017 at 04:59 PM.
-rob
updated with a better opening post.
-rob
So here's the problem I'm seeing: you have no protection and are using reforge the soul to basically let your opponent dig for an answer. I think this means that while you goldfish well in real life you'll get hosed pretty hard when you give out a free force of will. Or flusterstorm, or stifle because your wincon is reliant on storm off a wish target. With 55% of decks (according to mtgoldfish) playing force of will you may even consider four red elemental blasts main. Definitely in the side.
I don't know how this will affect your game though. If it hurts it too much you might have to go to Modern. Which isn't me trying to be dismissive, I think there's something to this (I especially like the interaction of exiting-as-drawing and hellbent) I just don't see a significant reason that makes this better than existing storm decks.
It sure looks like a fun deck to play. I agre that maybe some REB could help protecting the combo.
I'll be able to do testing once the new set is on modo. Just had a baby last month so I haven't been playing IRL.
the 4 defense grid should be a good start, it's also possible that some maindeck red blast (or Pyro for storm count) could be useful.
This deck is a lot less affected by chalice and doesn't care at all about blood moon. It also cares a bit less about Leovold.
-rob
had to leave magical christmasland and will run some maindeck protection.
Overmaster seems reasonable, since it cantrips at its worst.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/689113#paper
Last edited by mistercakes; 07-03-2017 at 09:12 AM.
-rob
You might want to have an All is Dust in the board in case you want to wish for a boardwipe that lets you play out any game and deal with enchantments like Rule of Law or Back to Basics.
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Thanks will test it as well.
-rob
Current list. Also, is it possible for an Op to change the thread name to Mono Red Storm? I was trying to be clever earlier and there's no point. Updated! Throw us a PM next time as we may not see it in the thread. -J
10 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
2 Act on Impulse
4 Burning Wish
1 Desperate Ritual
3 Empty the Warrens
3 Hazoret's Undying Fury
4 Helm of Awakening
4 Lotus Petal
4 Manamorphose
3 Past in Flames
2 Reforge the Soul
4 Rite of Flame
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Seething Song
4 Simian Spirit Guide
sideboard
1 Cave-In
1 Empty the Warrens
3 Goblin Charbelcher
1 Goblin War Strike
1 Grapeshot
1 Hazoret's Undying Fury
1 Mizzix's Mastery
1 Past in Flames
1 Reforge the Soul
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Shattering Spree
Last edited by Jander78; 07-03-2017 at 07:40 PM. Reason: updating thread title.
-rob
I sincerely, cannot wait to run this at my weekly Legacy :)
Modo testing begins next week! Also have some new ideas with vieko but want to try them out first before posting.
-rob
In the meanwhile this is where I'm at without doing changing anything major.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/689113#paper
You can also run desperate ritual over rite of flame if your local meta is infested with chalice.
-rob
To address the glass-cannon issues: Some amount of Overmaster?
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MD Defense Grid from the previous MtgGoldfish list seems stronger to me. We are not going to interact during the opponent's turn anyhow so the effect is asymmetric, multiples stack together, it protects multiple spells (not only sorceries) per turn, and we can cast it pre-actively before the combo turn (using Sol lands) to "save mana" during the combo turn.
Overmaster does draw a card, though, so if there is ever flex slots in the 75, it's a solid choice for filler.
Check my link. I tried overmaster and it didn't work out grid seems good for now. :)
Grid is also a lot better for reforge, so the act on Impulse had to sit out for now. (can keep one if you cut an empty.)
Last edited by mistercakes; 07-07-2017 at 12:40 PM.
-rob
I actually really like this list. Was there any consideration something like Commune with Lava? or is that too mana intensive? I haven't tried it in legacy, but it's done well enough in modern.
Honestly I hadn't seen that card before in a deck. It seems okay and it could be okay to do it for 2 or 3 on opponents end step before your combo turn.
The x spells would be a bit better depending on how many mana rocks you have in play too.
The only main issue is if you flip it with hazoret's, it's a dead card.
-rob
could also go this way if you're more into all in combo.
10 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
2 Act on Impulse
4 Burning Wish
4 Defense Grid
3 Hazoret's Undying Fury
4 Helm of Awakening
4 Lotus Petal
4 Manamorphose
3 Past in Flames
2 Reforge the Soul
4 Rite of Flame (or 4 desperate ritual)
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Seething Song
4 Simian Spirit Guide
If you're afraid of having only wish as a wincon, you can run 1 MD grapeshot or 1 MD empty in place of a defense grid.
-rob
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