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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator Depths

    Just finished another league 4-1. I have been doing quite well online and at the LGS with my list.

    Won vs BR Reanimator, D&T, Lands, UW Stoneblade. Lost to... Mr Ewlandon in the mirror!

    BR Reanimator (2-1)
    G1 I got T1 Iona'd on black (played a swamp on the play)
    G2 ML gets him
    G3 I keep a no lander with Leyline. He never recovers.

    Mirror (Ewlandon)
    G1 I misplayed but managed to kill him with ML after a long and grindy game
    G2 I have T1 ML in hand, but I'm on the play and he has T1 Iona. It's better.
    G3 We both make ML and I have Leyline, but 1 turn before I can cast my Titan he discards and reanimates it... too bad

    Anyway it was great to play vs the sensei and creator of the deck.

    D&t played by MALIMUJO
    G1 He doesn't know I play ritual and tries to revoker my thespian stage while I have DD, TS and Swamp in play.
    G2 Karakas slows me down, he exiles a Titan but I finally needle Karakas, draw dread of night and win

    Lands
    G1 I got ML'd quickly
    G2 T2 Griselbrand does it (he then drops ML but I can get a Tidespout Tyrant into play)
    G3 he bogs me but I managed to drop a ML with unread dark ritual :)

    This is a very grindy matchup but we can attack from more angles

    UWb Stoneblade
    G1 T2 ML
    G2 discard council's judgement, discard supreme verdict, drop ML, gg

    Overall I still love this deck. You can go the unfair way or the fair way with the Titans vs D&T or Delver.

    I'm gonna try the Helm's combo to have a 3rd out after SB.

    List:

    4 DD
    4 TS
    4 Urborg
    1 Lake of the Dead
    9 Swamp

    2 Grave Titan
    1 Griselbrand
    1 Iona
    4 Vampire Hexmage

    3 Beseech the Queen (still not 100% convinced)
    3 Collective Brutality
    3 Reanimate
    4 Thoughtseize (or 4 Unmask depends)
    4 Entomb
    4 Exhume
    4 Dark Ritual
    4 Lotus Petal
    1 Pithing Needle

    SB
    4 LotV
    3 Mindbreak Trap
    2 Duress
    1 Grave Titan
    1 Lake of the Dead
    1 Dread of Night
    1 Tidespout Tyrant
    2 Pithing Needle

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator Depths

    You can't Revoker Thespian's Stage.
    If you're wondering how I produce blue mana, I copy my opponent Island with Thespian's Stage

    I am the Legacy metagame:

    -2016 Eternal Weekend Europe won by BR Reanimator (I wrote the primer)
    -2016 Eternal Weekend North America won by Turbo Dark Depths (I write about and develop the winning version specifically)

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator Depths

    Quote Originally Posted by DNSolver View Post
    You can't Revoker Thespian's Stage.
    Youíre correct, Iíll look at the replay because I donít have the details in head right know.

    EDIT: so it was the play and he had Thalia in hand so Iím sure he missed it also. Anyway Iím not great vs D&T usually but the matchup is better than for Turbo Depths!

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator Depths

    I've seen some SB to include 4x Leyline of the Void and 4x Helm Of Obedience for a third/unexpected combo. The user argued that it was yet another angle of attack which was more efficient than trying to board countermeasures for G2/G3 against some decks.

    I've tried it out with reasonable success, however my sample space is not big enough to come into a reliable conclusion. If anyone has an insight to offer on the matter I'd be happy to hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castellan View Post
    I've seen some SB to include 4x Leyline of the Void and 4x Helm Of Obedience for a third/unexpected combo. The user argued that it was yet another angle of attack which was more efficient than trying to board countermeasures for G2/G3 against some decks.

    I've tried it out with reasonable success, however my sample space is not big enough to come into a reliable conclusion. If anyone has an insight to offer on the matter I'd be happy to hear it.
    8 SB slots seems like a lot for a 3rd combo when you have no Brainstorm or Enlightened tutor to fetch the pieces. I do usually keep a miser's 1 Helm in my SB to bring in against Rest In Peace decks.

    Went 2-0-1 with the Tin Fins-Depths style list this week. Beat UB Reanimator, RW Painter and tied Lands.

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator Depths

    Quote Originally Posted by hovercraft View Post
    8 SB slots seems like a lot for a 3rd combo when you have no Brainstorm or Enlightened tutor to fetch the pieces. I do usually keep a miser's 1 Helm in my SB to bring in against Rest In Peace decks.

    Went 2-0-1 with the Tin Fins-Depths style list this week. Beat UB Reanimator, RW Painter and tied Lands.
    Yes and you can tutor it with Beseech the Queen during a grindy game (vs Lands, Prison deck with Bridge on the board, D&T why not...)

    I went 5-0 again last night, beat BUG, D&T, BUG again, Mono red prison, Belcher. Lost only 1 game in the league to Belcher, deck ran hot in the 3 first matches where I had turn 1 or turn 2 most of the time.

    Edit: list https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/822482#paper

    The most difficult game was vs Mono red, where he had a board with chalice on 2, blood moon x2, bridge x 2. I had a needle on Chandra, was able to land a Iona on red, to reanimate a Hexmage to kill his other Chandra while at 1 life, to reanimate a 2nd + hardcast Titan to kill him with Mage and Zombies.

    I'm happy so far with main board and sideboard, I'm not sure if I want to bring in Elesh Norn for elves and what to cut for the Helm.
    Last edited by Ultrab77; 11-12-2017 at 05:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultrab77 View Post
    Yes and you can tutor it with Beseech the Queen during a grindy game (vs Lands, Prison deck with Bridge on the board, D&T why not...)

    I went 5-0 again last night, beat BUG, D&T, BUG again, Mono red prison, Belcher. Lost only 1 game in the league to Belcher, deck ran hot in the 3 first matches where I had turn 1 or turn 2 most of the time.

    The most difficult game was vs Mono red, where he had a board with chalice on 2, blood moon x2, bridge x 2. I had a needle on Chandra, was able to land a Iona on red, to reanimate a Hexmage to kill his other Chandra while at 1 life, to reanimate a 2nd + hardcast Titan to kill him with Mage and Zombies.

    I'm happy so far with main board and sideboard, I'm not sure if I want to bring in Elesh Norn for elves and what to cut for the Helm.
    Ah how do you find Beseech the queen? I haven't played with it before. Need 4 lands in play to find Helm or Leyline

    Elelsh Norn is usually an auto win vs Elves if it resolves, I don't see why you wouldn't bring it in.

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    Re: [Deck] Reanimator Depths

    Quote Originally Posted by hovercraft View Post
    Ah how do you find Beseech the queen? I haven't played with it before. Need 4 lands in play to find Helm or Leyline

    Elelsh Norn is usually an auto win vs Elves if it resolves, I don't see why you wouldn't bring it in.
    I meant I need something to cut for EleshNorn in my SB: Tidespout Tyrant?

    Beseech the Queen is often boarded out, especially vs combo.

    But you always get the 2 lands for Hexmage, reanimation or else (needle, dread of night, rite of consumption...)

    In grindy matchups you will have the land count anyway for helm or you should not play the Helm combo.

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    Dear friends of The Source,
    I'm returning to play MTG after a long, long time. After a period of updating and buys I have prepared some legacy decks and I will try one in a local shop legacy tournament in about two weeks.
    Initially I was ready to try a BG Dark Depths deck, with the classic list but including Living Wish but I note the metagame will be full of big guys with some Eldrazis decks. D&T Elves S&S and even BR Reanimator
    with this meta I'm considering change to a BG Reanimator Depths including also Living Wish, something like the list recommended by the user filln in this thread (with 3 abrupt decay in the sideboard) but including 2 x Griselbrand or my last option, to play BW Reanimator Depths.

    I will be a total surprise at less in G1, because nobody knows my deck.
    what do you think will be more competitive? pure DD, BG reanimator depth or BW reanimator depth?
    and if I go with a Reanimator list, how and when can I use Griselbrand's ability without Children? and how can I protect Marit Lage or must I include Rite of Consumtion with the token? Sorry if I ask too much quedtions and thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malekith View Post
    Dear friends of The Source,
    I'm returning to play MTG after a long, long time. After a period of updating and buys I have prepared some legacy decks and I will try one in a local shop legacy tournament in about two weeks.
    Initially I was ready to try a BG Dark Depths deck, with the classic list but including Living Wish but I note the metagame will be full of big guys with some Eldrazis decks. D&T Elves S&S and even BR Reanimator
    with this meta I'm considering change to a BG Reanimator Depths including also Living Wish, something like the list recommended by the user filln in this thread (with 3 abrupt decay in the sideboard) but including 2 x Griselbrand or my last option, to play BW Reanimator Depths.

    I will be a total surprise at less in G1, because nobody knows my deck.
    what do you think will be more competitive? pure DD, BG reanimator depth or BW reanimator depth?
    and if I go with a Reanimator list, how and when can I use Griselbrand's ability without Children? and how can I protect Marit Lage or must I include Rite of Consumtion with the token? Sorry if I ask too much quedtions and thanks in advance.
    Hey there buddy, here's my 10 cents:

    I'd choose BW Reanimator Depths. I still have people tilting hard when they see me cast an Entomb with Dark Depths in play, the deck attacks from many angles and it's performing really well for me in my local meta. I've found that protecting Marit Lage barely ever works - in hard matches like New Miracles or Stoneblade they will - absolutely will - find another answer if you manage to, say, counter a StP with Not From This World. In said matches, throw Marit Lage to their faces and whilst they try to get rid of it try to put a Grave Titan into play. In my experience, however, I have about 10% WR against those decks and I don't even waste SB space with them anymore, I just roll with it.

    About Griselbrand and when/how to use it, it's easier to say when NOT to use it. The answer for me is ALWAYS, except for:

    - In decks with chances of finding an Edict (Either Diabolical or Liliana) Grave Titan is better;
    - If I have to bring Iona against Storm, early Elves or Burn
    - If Elesh Norn needs to wipe the board of Baldy tokens or similar;
    - If someone managed to bring Marit Lage and Tidespout Tyrant needs to bounce it.

    I think it's roughly the general rule. Also, when I Exhume it instead of Reanimate it, I usually draw 14 because I'm a greedy motherfucker but it's usually GG from there, as you'll mos def end up with Marit Lage and another fatty into play.

    Edit: clarity

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