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    Does anyone have any opinion on what the tightest fitting perfect fit sleeves are? My setup used to be KMC Hyper Mattes with KMC Perfect Fits until the hyper mattes went to shit. Now I'm on Dragon Shield mattes (love the Mint color especially). The problem is I've found it extremely difficult to get the perfect fit sleeved cards into the dragon shields. There seems to be a lot of love for perfect hard fits, would they solve this problem?
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    Re: Sleeves both inner and outer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeron View Post
    Does anyone have any opinion on what the tightest fitting perfect fit sleeves are? My setup used to be KMC Hyper Mattes with KMC Perfect Fits until the hyper mattes went to shit. Now I'm on Dragon Shield mattes (love the Mint color especially). The problem is I've found it extremely difficult to get the perfect fit sleeved cards into the dragon shields. There seems to be a lot of love for perfect hard fits, would they solve this problem?
    I have heard that sometimes the Ultra Pro perfect fits are a bit tighter (some even claim they warp the cards), but have never actually seen them be in actual practice.

    I don't know if there is some subtle variation in the sizes of the DS colors, but I have never had an issue with KMC perfects fitting into Original DS or DS Mattes.

    I had a friend tell me something similar about Dragon Shields, but when I tried his cards and sleeves, I had no issue double sleeving them. I guess there is some sort of technique to it, although I am unsure what it is that I am doing differently. I do know that if you are pushing the perfect fitted card down from the top into the outer sleeve, you are probably going to have a hard time, regardless of what combination of sleeves you are using (in my limited experience).
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    KMC perfect fits + Ultra Pro eclipse is by far the best package I've ever tried.
    Easy to install, durable, good shuffling.

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    KMC Perfect Fit Hards + Dragon Shield Mattes are my go-to.

    Eclipse sleeves are good, but get dirty fast and are not good with foils with the matte front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkii View Post
    KMC Perfect Fit Hards + Dragon Shield Mattes are my go-to.

    Eclipse sleeves are good, but get dirty fast and are not good with foils with the matte front.
    you are right about the matte front.
    If Dragon Shield mattes are good, I'll try.
    Is any difference between these


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    and these?



    they all say "matte", but the different layout makes me think there are some differences (maybe just release time).

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    I put all my cards in the same color of Dragonshield Mattes, and even with boxes having different artwork the sleeves have been the same.

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    Re: Sleeves both inner and outer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeron View Post
    Does anyone have any opinion on what the tightest fitting perfect fit sleeves are? My setup used to be KMC Hyper Mattes with KMC Perfect Fits until the hyper mattes went to shit. Now I'm on Dragon Shield mattes (love the Mint color especially). The problem is I've found it extremely difficult to get the perfect fit sleeved cards into the dragon shields. There seems to be a lot of love for perfect hard fits, would they solve this problem?
    I use KMC Perfect Fits with Dragonshield mattes, and for brand new Dragonshield sleeves I find I need to open the sleeve and push the card inside with my finger on the side of the card, rather than pushing at the top of the card which often causes the card to come out of the Perfect Fit. This is less necessary as the sleeves get used and "broken in," so to speak.

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    Re: Sleeves both inner and outer

    Quote Originally Posted by Morden View Post
    you are right about the matte front.
    If Dragon Shield mattes are good, I'll try.


    they all say "matte", but the different layout makes me think there are some differences (maybe just release time).
    Yeah, they are good.

    The different boxes are just a layout change they did earlier this year. But one of those images is for the Japanese size sleeves, which are not what you want. You want the ones that say Standard size.
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    Yesterday I asked a friend to test one of his dragonshield matte sleeve with my kmc perfect fits hard.
    It was IMPOSSIBLE to put the card into the dragonshield (it was a foil one ok......). I hope he was wrong about the brand of his sleeves.......resleeving my deck could be very dangerous in those conditions

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    Re: Sleeves both inner and outer

    Quote Originally Posted by Morden View Post
    Yesterday I asked a friend to test one of his dragonshield matte sleeve with my kmc perfect fits hard.
    It was IMPOSSIBLE to put the card into the dragonshield (it was a foil one ok......). I hope he was wrong about the brand of his sleeves.......resleeving my deck could be very dangerous in those conditions
    I put my thumb on the clear outside face of the Dragon Shield and my finger into the sleeve with the card and slide it that way, like rubbing my fingers together with a perfect-fitted card in between.

    EDIT: This may be wildly off topic, but what are the absolute ugliest Dragon Shields anyone's seen? I'm trying to sleeve my godawful Commander shitpile deck in the ugliest sleeves I can find, but I like the quality of Dragon Shields.

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    I felt too much friction with dragon shield inserting the card, I don't like this. I think it can bend or damage the card keeping it in a such tiny space. Or damage the inner sleeve.

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    Re: Sleeves both inner and outer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Deuce View Post
    I'm trying to sleeve my godawful Commander shitpile deck in the ugliest sleeves I can find, but I like the quality of Dragon Shields.
    Just get white ones, they'll look like crap after a few times, no doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Deuce View Post
    EDIT: This may be wildly off topic, but what are the absolute ugliest Dragon Shields anyone's seen? I'm trying to sleeve my godawful Commander shitpile deck in the ugliest sleeves I can find, but I like the quality of Dragon Shields.
    I've found the yellow ones to be particularly hideous. I'm not really a fan of the color yellow in general, and these are very bright - they stick out like a sore thumb from a table.
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