What do u think about the jim davis deck
Monestary Mentor as main Wincon and 2 back to basics main
no counterbalances
In the feature matches agains soldiers and delver the back to basics were dead cards most of the time and terminus won those games.
Gut it was better than the other versions.
What do u think about the deck
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=18668&d=316427&f=LE
I guess you can chose between azcanta and btb, as they dont go well together and both are good vs certain decks. Not sure why he cut balances, they should have been great in that field full of delver decks.
@whitefaces: The premiere way of fighting miracle these days seem to be TNN and liliana otlh. Moat stops both of these wincons, just saying ;)
The decks playing TNN and LtLH are also playing plenty of cards that don't care about Moat too, it's still too narrow. Would you board it in vs Grixis Delver or Pile? Vs Delver the namesake card and DRS don't care about it, plus being a 4cmc sorcery speed card. Vs 4c DRSs, Strix and Jace ult don't care about it. When playing a bomb with a high cost you need it to have much more of an effect in matchups that you need it.
This is an article by jim davis explaining his deck
http://www.starcitygames.com/article...In-Legacy.html
the gist is:
- he thinks wasteland is one of the strongest cards in the format and therefore he only wants to play basics
- going in hand with basics he plays back to basics now
- counterbalance is a win more
- entreat doesnt fit the deck since it (miracles in general, lel) cant go late anymore
- he generally moved his deck more in a tempo role and plays 2 color now
Hi. I am trying a 4c miracles right now. Maybe is a crazy idea but after play different combinations in some months ( with red ) i finally find the right versión (with black). This is the decklist:
3 snapcaster mage
4 baleful strix
1 entreat the angels
3 sylvan library
4 Brainstorm
4 ponder
4 terminus
4 swords
1 council judgement
4 fow
2 flusterstorm
3 jace tms
1 engineered explosives
1 Search for azcanta
1 spell pierce
2 Underground sea
2 tropical island
3 tundra
1 Island
1 plains
1 swamp
4 Flooded strand
4 polluted delta
2 misty rainforest
1 flusterstorm
3 surgical
1 ethersworn canonist
2 Vendilion clique
1 council judgement
1 entreat the angels
3 thoughtseize
1 supreme veredict
1 disenchant
1 zealous persecution
Yesterday i played some small tournaments at GP Madrid with great results: 7-1-2.
1-1 vs uw planeswalker control. I Will win but the game finally in turns. I need 3 minutes more to win...
2-0 vs dredge.
2-1 vs 4c control. Entreat un the right moment= win
2-1 vs elves
0-2 vs elves
1-1 va grixis delver ( I missplayed with my jace when the match was nearly over)
2-0 vs merfolk
2-1 vs Lands
2-1 vs ant
I only Lost vs elves (Julian Knab). I missplayed a lot in those games.
The library was very strong vs combo and control. It let me keep the miracles on top. Baleful was mvp vs delver and gives me extra protection when I play jaceand time. The cantrip effect helps a lot in a control deck, the reason i don't play predict.
I think cheap counters are better than counterbalance by far because i need protect the terminus in the right moment. Probably try any hydroblast because pyroblast are really strong vs jace
Thank you Jim, Back to Basics is now $70+ dollars before the Legacy GP. Good thing I got my copies long ago.
I wouldn't interpret as win-more, even though he wrote that regarding Entreat. He doesn't want to produce UU using his basic lands to play Counterbalance turn 2, he's not even interested, he rather find his plains early, answer threats, and maybe go tempo. Hence he's already decided he doesn't want CB to be part of his game plan. Also, he's committed in spending cantrips on Mentor, he will not give himself the option to set up CB triggers, again he's not interested. The stretch cantrips too thin argument he's also made it against Entreat.
I understand where he's coming from regarding CB. However, I feel he fundamentally misunderstood the use of CB. It's meant as a value card, cumulatively. There's rarely occasions you Want to spend brainstorm to setup, unless you must counter a Glimpse of Nature or Infernal Tutor. His points make sense in his build; the archetype as a whole might want to rethink about CB some more.
The argument of win-more for Entreat just doesn't make sense to me. I get it you want to load up on cantrip and spend them to create Monk tokens, but sometimes Mentor and Co. just cannot do it, people have game plans against Mentor. The reasons to play Entreat is that it is a standalone good card and it's not easy to hate it out.
Overall, his philosophy/approach is similar to Miracles in Eldrazi Winter, stop short of running Daze (flusterstorm instead).
Hey all, here are some games with the new Preordain list I've been testing: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...0HRiLfuMXlZE8Y. No commentary this time around but hopefully this helps get an idea of how the list plays out.
Also without counterbalance I feel like the deck is very vulnerable against discard spells, especially Cabal Therapy.
That said, the card is just huge against ANT I think.
I made a template that can be used for a sideboard map
the decklist is that one of itsunfair
with sideboarding configurations edited by him.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Can someone point me in the direction of the discord forum?
Thanks :)
Another Jim Davis no-CB Convert
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=119763
Well SCG did make monk tokens of him. Interestingly, Karakas and Search as SB tech, his SB makes a lot more sense than Jim's.
Similar list in Kyoto 2018
https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/...sts-2018-03-25
Coval is literally just playing the "corrected" version of Jim's list, found here
Hey guys.
I’m really struggling with the 4c Control matchup.
I feel like they’re better at grinding than I am, and REB, Snap, REB is tough to beat.
I can’t ever stick a permanent. I just feel like I lose every interaction.
If it’s really needed I’ll post my list, but I’m more or less looking for general strategy because I must be playing it all wrong.
I always play to the board when possible so my cards don’t get hymned or thoughtseized away.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you!
In this matchups you need to side out lands (you need to find spells), fow (2 for 1) and plow (just one for one). Need to side in REB, Fluster and... i really like to play 2 blood moons (they need to kp fow or hydroblast to deal with). Our best weapons are counterbalance, pyroblast, moon and flusterstorm backups.
I think 4c control is favored to us (ofc, there's some games were we got t2 hymn and t3 snap hymn...)
Gl!
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