To be clear, I think Pun and Dark Mav both are going to be better positioned now than they were last week. I'll keep playing both depending on how I feel week to week. ZP and Thoughtseize are both great cards for the reasons you say and will continue to be the reason to play GWb.
I think Thalia 2.0 is the real deal. I try to run at least one of her in all my decks - she steals games away from Elves, which they never expect, and my in-store rival is an Elves player - and she has good stats. The fact that she messes with opponents' mana is good stuff too, especially in a world where Wasteland is better. (Your reasoning all looks right to me.)
I'm probably more inclined to run multiple Mindcensors now too. Historically, about 75% of my decks have had at least one and I only recently moved away from it. Mindcensor is good against a lot of bad match ups that rely on tutoring - Storm, Reanimator, Elves - and practically every deck fetches, but it feels like I'm the only one who's hyped on the card.
SFM is the first card I cut when trying new things out. To be completely honest, the card is fine, but I'm never that happy to draw one except in instances where I need an equipment to win or lose a game over the next two turns. I'm usually content to just naturally draw my equips, which are 1 Jitte and 1 SoFI. I was never so concerned with KC, just thought she was a little slow.
The paper list I'm running now has Rallier, Sylvan Library + Courser, Tireless Tracker, Gaea's Cradle, 2 SFM + above equips, Ramunap. I want all the good value cards and synergies and really enjoy outdrawing blue decks. I prefer Cradle in a deck that runs Tracker for that reason. I'll add back Thalia 2.0 (probably two) and some Mindcensors, probably cutting the SFM and Rallier. Garruk's in the side for now, but he's been maindeck before and will be again.
FWIW, I prefer your second list. Sylvan Library is never flex.
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Hey guys. I've been reading here for a long time.
After this weeks bannings, there are two lists I put up togheter by reading some of the discussion here and some lists posted here.
First one is Punishing Mav:
Maindeck:
23 Lands
3 Wasteland
4 Windswept Heath
3 Wooded Foothills
1 Horizon Canopy
2 Savannah
1 Forest
1 Plains
1 Karakas
1 Plateau
2 Taiga
1 Dryad Arbor
3 Grove of the Burnwillows
16 Non-creatures
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Sylvan Library
2 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Punishing Fire
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
21 Creatures
4 Mother of Runes
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Scryb Ranger
4 Knight of the Reliquary
Sideboard:
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Choke
2 Ethersworn Cannonist
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1 Elspeth, Knight Errant
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Council's Judgement
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Sanctum Prelate
Here I don't know if the lone SoFaI would work. It's a hedge against TNN decks, but maybe without SFM it's too random. Testing 3 Big Thalia here, since 2mana Thalia with PFire is weird and, as I have liked her a lot in Modern, maybe that works here (as you guys were discussing earlier). Don't know if 3 is the right number, tho.
Next one is straight GW:
Maindeck:
23 Lands
4 Wasteland
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Horizon Canopy
2 Savannah
2 Forest
1 Plains
1 Karakas
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Maze of Ith
12 Non-Creatures
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Sylvan Library
2 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
25 Creatures
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Mother of Runes
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Ramunap Excavator
4 Knight of the Reliquary
Sideboard:
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Choke
2 Ethersworn Cannonist
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Faerie Macabre
1 Elspeth, Knight Errant
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Council's Judgement
2 Path to Exile
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Sanctum Prelate
Here I don't know about GQ and the 2nd Canopy. GQ + Excavator seems cute, but maybe not worth it to have another colorless land. I could swap it and the 2nd Canopy for 2 Caverns. I'm not running the lone SoFaI here, with a Gideon instead. Maybe that could work better on the other list also. And I'm running both Thalias as 3of here, but if Heretic Cathar doesn't work out as intended, I'll go back to 4 SFM + 3 Equips shaving 2 more cards.
Hey guys,
nor reports to share from last weekend or playtesting vs the new metagame so far ?
My own tournament will be in 2 weeks so till then I have nothing to share but I´m building and goldfishing daily
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I'm playing a blue splash for Leo in Dark Maverick and went 2-0-1 at a weekly. Beat Lands, Beat Grixis Control, Drew with Burn.
Honestly I'm thinking that I cut Leovold and Tropical Island for one of the following
-3rd Stoneforge and Bskull
-3rd Stoneforge and Sword of Light and Shadow
-Bayou and Tireless Tracker
-Bayou and 2nd Scooze in the Main
-Bayou and Mirri Weatherlight Duelist (Card seems interesting)
Playing Leovold on T2 is still very powerful, but it feels like the manabase is a bit too fragile for my liking.
What do you guys think?
This Tuesday I played a pretty stock GW Maverick in a local. Just 10 people, nothing huge, but I took 1st with a record of 3-0-1. Played against Miracles R1, which I drew against, but I probably could have won had I not made a few small play errors. R2 I played against Burn, which I beat 2-0. Cradle was crucial both games, letting me hold onto lands while still generating heaps of mana. R3 I played against a Junk pile, which I beat 2-0 with equipment and a leaner curve. R4 I played against BUG Thresh, and was able to win 2-0 mostly because of Sylvan Library and a robust manabase. I don't think I can overstate how nice it feels to have a rock solid manabase.
My sideboard:
4x Mindbreak Trap
1x Garruk Relentless
1x Sanctum Prelate
1x Council's Judgement
1x Reclamation Sage
1x Krosan Grip
2x Blessed Alliance
1x Ethersworn Canonist
3x Tormod's Crypt
Played without deathrites last week and this week at our legacy locals, going 3-1 and 3-0-1. Loss was to miracles and draw was to the same player on miracles again who is a friend and just offered a draw this time because tired.
First week I played this list below and started off 6-0 in games beating Death and Taxes, ANT, Steel Stompy, then getting 2-0'd by miracles.
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
1 MarshFlats
2 Savannah
1 Bayou
1 Scrubland
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Karakas
4 Wasteland
2 Forest
1 Plains
-23-
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Green Sun's Zenith
-10-
4 Noble Hierarch
1 Birds of Paradise
4 Mother of Runes
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Scryb Ranger
3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
1 Ramunap Excavator
4 Knight of the Reliquary
-27-
2 Choke
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Zealous Persecution
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Thoughtseize
3 Surgical Extraction
-15-
So I cut the Stage/Depths for another mana land just to make my deck more consistent (9 fetches is probably too many but I realistically never want to buy another beta dual) and I also played Heretic Cathars just to be all in on my mana denial gameplan. She performed well but I noticed I ran out of cards a lot faster than I wanted to even in the games I won, especially as Nobles/Bird is a lot less of a card than DRS if that makes sense. Bird has been really lackluster, people always say "it holds equipment well" but almost anything holds a sword well and it doesn't hold a Jitte all that well and that's 50% of my equipment =/. I've been more careful about leaning on black in Wasteland matchups so against DNT I decided not to bring in any copies of Thoughtseize which left me going -3 Thalia -1 Teeg +2 Decay +2 Zealous which left a Thalia and a SOFI in my deck which isn't the worst but meh. All this led me to make these changes for the second (this) week:
-3 Heretic Cathar
+1 Sylvan Library
+1 Tireless Tracker
+1 Renegade Rallier (place holder for Runic Armasaur <3)
-1 SB Surgical Extraction
+1 SB Sword of Light and Shadow
Changes worked well, granted haven't needed to cast a Surgical either week (I cast it once against ANT during his draw step to hit Infernal Tutor and his draw was Dark Petition, but he died off the Ad Naus IIRC). This week I beat Pox, TES, and RUG Delver. TES player got unlucky where I mulled to 3 but his hand was so slow he died to my Qasali Pridemage, mother of runes, dryad arbor beats (my mulligan to 4 was 2 lands, birds, jitte which I might've kept if it was a noble lol). Game 2 He thoughtseizes my hand of double thalia, zenith, zealous, pridemage takes the zenith but Thalia comes down and then he's stuck on 1 land plays LED which gets pridemage'd and then I topdeck canonist after so pretty unlucky opponent.
I will try to update primer after ban, contributors please do the same.
I have found that with DRS replaced by other mana dorks that my mana has become more consistent. This is due to DRS needing lands in gys and no active Drs on the opponent's side.
Because of this I have been testing 2 spicy blue cards in the side for the increased number of dnt type decks.
Blue against DnT? It’s the color that most suffer Taxation
Fumble gets awk a bit vs TNN/SOFI/Active mom, but I love the card. Some sweet christmasland tech is if they have a first striker holding Jitte and they swing with some dudes you can let it hit you, Jitte trigger on the stack fumble the guy holding it, put it on another attacker of theirs and own a jitte with 4 counters which is pretty gg vs DNT ;3
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