I updated Primer after Ban.
As a bonus my actual lists:
1. Heavy SFM package:
// 60 Maindeck
// 3 Artifact
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Batterskull
// 22 Creature
1 Tireless Tracker
4 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Qasali Pridemage
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Dryad Arbor
3 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Renegade Rallier
3 Noble Hierarch
1 Ramunap Excavator
// 1 Enchantment
1 Sylvan Library
// 7 Instant
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Punishing Fire
// 23 Land
4 Wasteland
2 Savannah
1 Bayou
1 Plains
1 Karakas
4 Windswept Heath
1 Forest
1 Taiga
1 Plateau
3 Grove of the Burnwillows
3 Wooded Foothills
1 Gaea's Cradle
// 4 Sorcery
4 Green Sun's Zenith
// 15 Sideboard
// 2 Enchantment
SB: 2 Choke
// 8 Instant
SB: 1 Zealous Persecution
SB: 2 Ancient Grudge
SB: 2 Pyroblast
SB: 1 Abrupt Decay
SB: 1 Blessed Alliance
SB: 1 Crop Rotation
// 3 Land
SB: 1 Bojuka Bog
SB: 1 Dark Depths
SB: 1 Thespian's Stage
// 2 Planeswalker
SB: 2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
I removed sweet but conditional cards which sometimes gives an edge - Like Granger Guildmage - which win alone vs some decks for example vs Infect. Added value creature like SFM which can gain advantage since Grixis and K.Commands are in decline.
2. Second version is totally SFMless:
// 60 Maindeck
// 24 Creature
4 Noble Hierarch
3 Tireless Tracker
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Knight of the Reliquary
2 Renegade Rallier
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Ramunap Excavator
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Birds of Paradise
// 1 Enchantment
1 Sylvan Library
// 7 Instant
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Punishing Fire
// 24 Land
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Plains
1 Forest
4 Wasteland
1 Bayou
2 Savannah
3 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
1 Karakas
3 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Taiga
1 Plateau
1 Ghost Quarter
// 4 Sorcery
4 Green Sun's Zenith
// 15 Sideboard
// 3 Creature
SB: 1 Reclamation Sage
SB: 1 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 1 Granger Guildmage
// 2 Enchantment
SB: 2 Choke
// 7 Instant
SB: 1 Blessed Alliance
SB: 1 Pyroblast
SB: 1 Ancient Grudge
SB: 1 Crop Rotation
SB: 2 Abrupt Decay
SB: 1 Zealous Persecution
// 1 Land
SB: 1 Bojuka Bog
// 2 Planeswalker
SB: 2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
Its more focused on Tracker value. Which can outdraw most decks.
https://deckstats.net/decks/110808/1...gw-maverick/en
Probably will run something like this for a while. Maindeck ratios can still be messed with (not sure how I feel about 3x Mom 3x Stoneforge 2x Cathar mainly) and I'm like 99% certain the manabase isn't going to work but I can't really afford another Savannah so I'd have to run basics or something.
Sideboard is sort of meh, might have to switch things around depending on how much reanimator I end up seeing
as most discussion now is on discord servers i wanted to share my actual straight-GW list:
2 Forrest
1 Plains
4 Savannah
2 Horizon Canopy
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Karakas
1 Gaeas Cradle
4 Wasteland
4 Windswept Heath
2 Verdant Catacombs
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Birds of Paradies
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Mother of Runes
3 Thalia, GoT
2 Pridemage
2 SFM
1 Ooze
1 Scrybranger
1 Teeg
4 Knights
1 Excavator
1 Rallier
1 Aven Mindcensor
4 StP
4 Zenith
1 Library
1 Jitte
1 SoFaI
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SB:
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Sanctum Prelate
1 Pithing Needle
2 Choke
2 Path to Exile
1 Krosan Grip
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Giddeon Ally of Zendikar
3 Surgical Extraction
as we have a weired local meta at time i play only 3 Thalia and 1 Aven Mindcensor (which is insane especially in Mirror Matches)
also nearly no delver lists but more prison- and vial/equipment-decks where 2 pridemages main are very useful.
still dont like playing more SFM's + Batterskull.
i think i might test a avacyns pilgrim in the spot of Birds - because only 2 colors and can block goblin lackey.
also conisder to squeeze a maze of ith or roges passage in the deck.
There's a Maverick discord? Would you mind posting a link? :)
Asked in the discord too, but:
Specifically in the new meta - what are your thoughts on punishing vs depths vs cradle builds? Moving over from 4c pile and trying to figure out which build to start on
Meta shift to stifle, RUG is back, Grixis changes to stifle build, this mean that cradle and Darth depths build isn't favorable, probably the best will be punishing fire to recur removal. With miracle rise straight GW or GWb with decay MD and 3cmc walkers MD isn't bad idea.
Currently running this list.
Main Deck (60):
4 noble hierarch
4 knight of the reliquary
4 mother of runes
3 thalia, guardian of thraben
2 stoneforge mystic
1 dryad arbor
1 scavenging ooze
1 scryb ranger
1 gaddock teeg
1 qasali pridemage
1 ramunap excavator
1 renegade rallier
1 tireless tracker
1 sigarda, host of herons
1 umezawa’s jitte
1 sword of fire and ice
1 sylvan library
4 green sun’s zenith
4 swords to plowshares
4 windswept heath
3 verdant catacombs
2 savannah
2 bayou
1 scrubland
4 wasteland
1 horizon canopy
1 karakas
1 ghost quarter
1 bojuka bog
1 gaea’s cradle
1 forest
1 plains
Side Board (15):
2 ethersworn canonist
2 containment priest
1 gideon, ally of zendikar
1 garruk relentless
2 surgical extraction
1 nihil spellbomb
2 zealous persecution
1 liliana, the last hope
2 choke
Meta in my country is very diverse but currently post ban of drs,people use lands, aggro loam, drazi post, dnt and rug delvers.
What do you guys think of the list?
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If a 3 CMC Walker is what you're looking towards I think Nissa and Ajani Caller of the Pride are options. Nissa making a plant actually isn't the worst to fight edicts, it also can attack with exalted triggers, and the -2 ability is nice especially post board to fight -1-1 effects that have gained some value with noble being the new main mana dork. Ajani also is nice fitting in with exalted them by pumping a single dude which is nice against miracles because it allows you to pressure with a single threat to avoid over extending into sweepers. Also with a fat KOTR out his flying and Double Strike ability can be a one hit KO against an unprepared opponent.
3 Mother of Runes
4 Noble Hierarch
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Gaddock Teeg
4 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Ramunap Excavator
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Shalai, Voice of Plenty
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Sylvan Library
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Garruk Relentless
1 Dark Depths
1 Thespian's Stage
4 Wasteland
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Karakas
2 Forest
1 Plains
2 Savannah
1 Bayou
1 Scrubland
4 Windswept Heath
3 Verdant Catacombs
1 Marsh Flats
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Choke
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Abrupt Decay
3 Zealous Persecution
4 Thoughtseize
2 Surgical Extraction
Played a 5 round legacy classic here at Magic Stronghold games in Vancouver using this list. Was unsure on last few slots but they performed (never drew Elspeth all day though). Scryb Ranger was MVP of the day, and Marit Lage had a very strong showing ... flying is just a good ability haha. Sword was good too and I wouldn't want to cut it like those 2 Jitte lists I've seen. Not 100% sure I remember how I sideboarded but should be close.
Rd 1 vs Show and Tell 1-2
Game 1 I smack him with dudes and he doesn't do anything
Game 2 I get hit with Emrakul off sneak and slowly rebuild as Im not really drawing much but he whiffs creatures for like 10 turns in a row but eventually finds one and kills me as I joke about this Dryad Arbor doing 12 more damage.
Game 3 I keep a hand of 3 lands, Teeg, Thalia, Pridemage, Choke. He goes land petal petal show in omni cast emrakul. I got outplayed.
+1 Choke
+2 Canonist
+4 Thoughtseize
+2 Surgical
-1 Shalai
-1 Garruk
-4 Plow
-1 SOFI
-1 Jitte
-1 SFM
0-1
Rd 2 Burn 2-0
Game 1 I land Shalai and get pretty low so decide to block Eidolon when he attacks with it and a guide letting him trade eidolon+ bolt for her (I can't just not play spells and not block for the rest of the game). I drop an ooze and gain a bit of life and he drops vortex so I'm on a clock. I end up getting a 6/6 knight and 6/6 ooze and 12 him when he's at 14 and let him die to vortex.
Game 2 I stick mother plus Shalai. Feel pretty lucky that I see my 1 of Shalai both games vs the matchup it's really strong.
+2 Decay
+2 Canonist (I really don't have a good sideboard for this MU)
-1 Garruk
-1 Tracker
-1 Ramunap
-1 Library
1-1
Rd 3 BUG Delver 2-0
Game 1 I play a Garruk and it rolls him, at one point he has a TNN, a 5/6 goyf and a gurmag to my two healthy wolves and three deathtouch wolves and I have to do math on a garruk ult but I'd lose my Garruk and it'd make goyf a 6/7. It would be lethal if he blocked the deathtouchers but he's already not going to do that. I make more sick wolves, TNN eventually kills garruk in 2 hits, I get scryb ranger and I get to slowly kill him, getting to attack with sick wolves too when his TNN attacks me and then I can untap sick wolf with Ranger.
Game 2 he mulligans to 4 but I almost die to a TNN. He has an Angler to go with it but I have Scryb Ranger + Dryad Arbor fog and a sword on the ranger clocks him faster than TNN clocks me.
I honestly can't remember how I boarded. Choke came in, Zealous didn't come in, I brought in either Decays or Elspeth or both but I forget which. Forget what I cut other than Teeg, really tired forgive me.
2-1
Rd 3 Rector Fit 2-0
Game 1 he's stuck on two lands and a bunch of big drops and I flood like 8 lands none of them utility lands but I have Thalia + Jitte and it just kills him, fun game thanks Thalia, now get out of my deck for game 2 ;3.
Game 2 I thoughtseize him a couple times and then set up an ooze which blanks all his rectors and just kill him with it, feels really good to just attack into active rector, remember kids Zenith OP.
+4 Thoughtseize
+2 Surgical
+1 Elspeth
-4 Thalia
-3 Mother
3 -1
Rd 5 I.D.
Quarters - Death and Taxes 2-0
Game 1 I have Scryb Ranger, Jitte and a bunch of stuff going on and I'm able to outgrind double brightling plus vial on 3 (really annoying btw)
Game 2 he has early Avenger with War and Peace on it putting me to 2 and him to 26. I hail mary Marit Lage while I have mother in play, I then land Scryb Ranger. I can't start attacking yet as he's kinda wide and I have to use my nobles to play creatures and then untap them to represent blockers so he can't sneak in 2 damage. Eventually I'm able to have a wide enough board I can swing with Lage and then vigilance it with Ranger and once he's low enough for 1 hit to kill him we go Mom pro protection on lage, he plows, I untap mom and protect again in response. We did have to dodge Karakas for a couple turns which we did but if he drew it a bit later after we gone wide we weren't just dead as we still had Ranger + Mom which is really hard to deal with.
+3 Zealous
+2 Decay
-4 Thalia
-1 Teeg
#NeverCutDepths. Is the 1 Thalia or 1 Thoughtseize better than the 1 Shalai post board? I doubt it, Shalai flies, don't let the Karakas fear seep in it gets nailed by our wastelands a lot.
Semi's - Miracles 2-0
Game 1 He doesn't really do much outside of a Gideon of the Trails (!) that's ticking up on my big Knight while I'm grinding out cards with Ramunap and eventually that plus Thalia kill Gideon and then he just dies after.
Game 2 I keep Bird, Noble, Zenith, Garruk, and some lands. Turn 2 I think a bit and decide to Zenith for 2 threatening Teeg even though the only action in my hand after is Garruk which I wouldn't be able to cast, he forces it and then next turn I slam Garruk and he can't deal with it, it makes a wolf every turn until the game ends and they devour 2 Jace's before eating him as well. Opponent didn't see a sweeper the whole match.
+1 Elspeth
+1 Choke
+2 Decay
-3 Plow
-1 Ooze
Opponent is on 0 Snapcaster Mages so I cut Ooze, it's a sweet list with Teferi's though.
Split finals, $160 each
Last edited by Rascalyote; 08-12-2018 at 10:38 AM.
from Eternal Weekend Japan:
25位 Takahashi Naoto
デッキ名:まべ太郎
土地
2《Bayou》
1《ボジューカの沼/Bojuka Bog》
1《ドライアドの東屋/Dryad Arbor》
1《森/Forest》
1《ガイアの揺籃の地/Gaea's Cradle》
1《地平線の梢/Horizon Canopy》
1《カラカス/Karakas》
1《平地/Plains》
3《Savannah》
3《新緑の地下墓地/Verdant Catacombs》
1《ヴォルラスの要塞/Volrath's Stronghold》
3《不毛の大地/Wasteland》
4《吹きさらしの荒野/Windswept Heath》
クリーチャー
2《極楽鳥/Birds of Paradise》
1《ガドック・ティーグ/Gaddock Teeg》
4《聖遺の騎士/Knight of the Reliquary》
3《ルーンの母/Mother of Runes》
2《貴族の教主/Noble Hierarch》
1《クァーサルの群れ魔道士/Qasali Pridemage》
1《ラムナプの採掘者/Ramunap Excavator》
1《漁る軟泥/Scavenging Ooze》
1《スクリブのレインジャー/Scryb Ranger》
2《石鍛冶の神秘家/Stoneforge Mystic》
1《森を護る者/Sylvan Safekeeper》
3《スレイベンの守護者、サリア/Thalia, Guardian of Thraben》
1《不屈の追跡者/Tireless Tracker》
スペル
2《突然の衰微/Abrupt Decay》
4《剣を鍬に/Swords to Plowshares》
4《緑の太陽の頂点/Green Sun's Zenith》
1《森の知恵/Sylvan Library》
1《火と氷の剣/Sword of Fire and Ice》
1《光と影の剣/Sword of Light and Shadow》
1《梅澤の十手/Umezawa's Jitte》
サイドボード
1《封じ込める僧侶/Containment Priest》
1《聖域の僧院長/Sanctum Prelate》
2《外科的摘出/Surgical Extraction》
2《盲信的迫害/Zealous Persecution》
1《議会の採決/Council's Judgment》
3《思考囲い/Thoughtseize》
1《窒息/Choke》
1《忘却の輪/Oblivion Ring》
1《静寂/Serenity》
1《真髄の針/Pithing Needle》
1《ゼンディカーの同盟者、ギデオン/Gideon, Ally of Zendikar》
Hello all, there didn't seem to be a subreddit set up for the deck, so I went ahead and made one: https://www.reddit.com/r/MTGMaverick/
Please feel free to add content there, and discuss the deck. I know for a lot of people (such as myself), Reddit can be a great tool for this kind of stuff. The sub is brand new so... it definitely needs some love and content to get it off the ground.
Had a tournament where I played miracles twice and Omnisneak once.
How do we beat them? I've tried various strategies against miracles and had very little luck.
Miracles is bad. Your best best is to thoughtseize/surgical one of their two removal and use your bears to blank the other (surgical stp, cast Teeg // surgical terminus, cast prelate on 1). Or if you can land a timely choke or an equipment and fetch dryad arbor after terminus.
Omni is unwinnable unless they draw poorly.
Just got back from playing at gp Richmond with GWb Maverick. Very happy with the deck and my finish. Day one I ended with a 6-0-2 record, finished day two at 9-3-3. Got 30 points and my first pro point! Losses were miracles, elves, and sneak and show. I ended up playing against miracles 6 times in 15 rounds ugh. I'll post my list here when I get the chance.
Hello everyone! I'm new and I'm getting into legacy. I just purchased some duals so I can play a real deck. This is the list I am going to play:
4 mother of runes
4 birds of paradise
4 knight of the reliquary
3 stoneforge mystic
1 scryb ranger
1 qasali pridemage
1 ramunap excavator
1 voice of resurgence
1 scavenging ooze
1 dryad arbor
2 umezawa's jitte
1 batterskull
1 sylvan library
4 green sun's zenith
4 swords to plowshares
4 punishing fire
4 wooded foothills
4 windswept heath
4 wasteland
3 grove of the burnwillows
2 savannah
2 forest
1 plateau
1 taiga
1 plains
1 karakas
Of all this cards I don't have only the wastelands and 1 savannah, so I think I'm at a good point in building the deck. What do you think about it? Do you have any suggestions? Also for the sideboard
Thank you and sorry for my bad english
welcome @alvoi
your list should be a good start playing, but if you ever can purchase some noble hierarchs, get em!
i see its a budget reason, but if you play 4 birds you should play at least 1 Sword of XY (Fire & Ice) because birds cant attack/block with equipped jitte on them and you never get profit out of that.
also if you have access to Discord https://discord.gg/rgsSje4, your welcome to join us . there is a P.Fire channel where good players discuss that archtype
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