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    wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    Sorry if this has been discussed before. Maybe I'm not thinking it straight but I feel like Leovold has been apretty good card that influenced the format and it just pushed decks that were already pretty good. It could've served a better role pushing the non-blue midrange decks. Or at least that's my opinion.

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    Re: wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    The card was made for tiny leaders the fad, since bug didn't have a 3 cmc legend. Yes almost all the cards that came out of the commander and supplementary products have been mistakes and just pushed blue more in their weakest department (creatures):: baleful strix, shardless agent, true name nemesis, leovold. Interestingly all fit in bug.
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    Yes, you're absolutely right it should be junk colored. It even makes sense as a white card since Leovold is basically a hatebear and white has cards like spirit of the labyrinth that restrict the drawing of cards. I'm sure WotC can barely be bothered to test standard cards for how they'll affect legacy, let alone supplemental products like commander (which is stupid because they know full and well those cards can only be used in legacy, vintage, and a format which is played casually 99% of the time). It's repugnant that blue gets a haymaker like Leovold when printing it in junk colors might have been enough to give Maverick the push it needed to get back to a tier 1 deck.
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    Re: wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    Same reason why TNN should have been a white card insted of blue - it would have still been a stupid card to play against, but at least it would have made more sense color-pie wise. Maro's explanation that blue gets the most cards with non-color protection is bullshit and downright wrong.

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    Re: wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    I'm still trying to figure out what part of Leovold is Black.

    He's Spirit of the Labyrinth + Reparations. I don't even get where the green came from tbh, and the black?

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    Re: wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    I don't even get where the green came from tbh
    Because he's an elf, duh
    and the black?
    uh, because he's a bad elf, uhh, no further questions


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    Re: wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Same reason why TNN should have been a white card insted of blue - it would have still been a stupid card to play against, but at least it would have made more sense color-pie wise. Maro's explanation that blue gets the most cards with non-color protection is bullshit and downright wrong.
    You mean you don't see a straight line in terms of Blue's protection from 'not colors'? It goes:
    Shoreline Raider
    Riptide Biologist
    Horizon Drake
    True-Name Nemesis


    It's a pretty linear progression if you ask me. They were clearing building up to this for a while.

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    Re: wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    Protection from Lands? The fuck?
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    Re: wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Same reason why TNN should have been a white card insted of blue - it would have still been a stupid card to play against, but at least it would have made more sense color-pie wise. Maro's explanation that blue gets the most cards with non-color protection is bullshit and downright wrong.
    My settings on the app, nothing else just creature, protection and I select a color.

    White has 89 cards with "protection".
    Blue has 18 cards with "protection"
    Black has 27 cards with "protection"
    Red has 18 cards with "protection"
    Green has 29 cards with "protection"

    If you select just legacy
    W 88
    U 17
    B 27
    R 17
    G 29


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    Re: wouldn't have been more interesting to see Leovold as a WGB card?

    In case your curious, looks like the 3 cards that aren't legacy legal are Un cards.
    Quote Originally Posted by Acclimation View Post
    I about died from laughter when I was watching my feature match and the commentators called Tinfins a difficult and challenging deck.

    I'm not saying it's the easiest deck to play, but the plan is so linear that I could probably get white girl wasted and still beat people with the deck.
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