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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

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    I still get nervous every time I face Merfolk...you'd think with all the removal I'd be fine, but I haven't beaten the deck once. I've stolen a game or two here or there, but not any matches. Aether Vial and Islandwalk are very difficult to deal with. I might have to sideboard Anger of the Gods or something similar.
    While it doesn't have synergy with Delver, I find Engineered Explosives to be the best sweeper against Merfolk. EE on 2 hits the majority of their threats and blows up any Spreading Seas that might be hampering your color production. I see that you have one in your board already. If you really fear the Fish, I'd up that to two. I'm not really sure where Merfolk is at in the meta at the moment. The shift to UG seems to have sparked some revived interest in the archetype, but it's kind of pricey for a tier 2 deck, so that might be keeping people off of it.

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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

    Thanks for the replies gentlemen!

    1) does supreme verdict cost too much at 4 for an 18 land deck? Seems a bit out of reach.
    2) ghostly prison seems solid, buys me all kinds of time. I like it.
    3) 2nd explosives is also appealing.

    I really like verdict, and if you guys think I can swing it, I'll board a couple copies.
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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

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    1) does supreme verdict cost too much at 4 for an 18 land deck? Seems a bit out of reach.
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    I really like verdict, and if you guys think I can swing it, I'll board a couple copies.
    I think Verdict might be a bit of stretch with only 18 land and it's the type of card that, when you need it, you can't afford to wait for it. I also think a full range sweeper might hamper your own game plan, since you're ultimately a creature/attack deck. If you were boarding Celestial Colonnades and wanted to transform into Jeskai control, that could be an option.

    I feel like Grim Lavamancer can put in good work against Merfolk. Maybe something like Vapor Snag to keep a lord off the table so your Lavamancer/burn can handle the other threats. Rending Volley fits the Delver strategy pretty well.

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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

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    1) does supreme verdict cost too much at 4 for an 18 land deck? Seems a bit out of reach.
    Yeah, I'm not sold on Verdict. Double white will be hard with Spreading Seas and you can't afford to take that much fetchland damage to make sure you'll get there in time. EE is a good suggestion, though. I still like Ghostly Prison a lot as it can mess with a lot of decks.

    Supreme Verdict might be worth a shot if you can find someone to test it against. You don't really need to cast it on turn 4 with all the burn you have to slow them down, it's really more of a trump card when they hit critical mass and you don't have any more time. I used to play Merfolk in modern and have an old iteration of it still, the major deck that I'd lose to was jeskai control. Supreme Verdict and Snapcaster Bolt are enough to turn all of Merfolk's threats useless, but if they never hit a Supreme Verdict I'd usually be able to just slowly sneak in damage.
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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

    Should I even bother with a lower-level wiper like Pyroclasm/Anger of the Gods? Anger seems quite good, probably more feasible than Verdict, and like PI said I can slow it down with burn spells and then have a critical mass answer. They both kill my stuff, but it's definitely worse for them. I will test out both Prison and Anger first, I think that's my obvious path for testing. If Prison is good enough, and I suspect it will be, I'll just go 2x Prison. The more I think about it the better it seems.


    2x Young Pyromancer
    2x Rest in Peace
    2x Stony Silence
    2x Blessed Alliance
    1x Engineered Explosives
    1x Ghostly Prison
    1x Anger of the Gods.
    1x Negate
    1x Dispel
    2x Ceremonious Rejection


    Depending on how popular UWx control/midrange gets by the tournament I might maindeck the Dispel again and free up another slot in the board for a 4th Path to Exile or other redundant effect. I think I have these covered fairl well (post board): Affinity, Tron/Eldrazi, Burn, Storm, Elves, Abzan Company. I think the more even, or unfavored, matchups are Death's Shadow, UWx control/mid-range, Lantern Control. Fringe decks like Merfolk I think I have addressed, at least theoretically. Fringe non-interactive decks take a fairly big beating from counterspells supported by Delver/Geist.

    If anger tests poorly I'll switch over to another Ghostly Prison or 2nd Explosives. Both are solid options that I feel work well alongside the deck. Anger is bad for me but I might need to just concede that it's necessary so I can beat certain decks. If my thinking is way off here, let me know. I appreciate your feedback.
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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

    I don't think Anger of the Gods is as good against merfolk as SV. There are times where they'll hit 4/4 and it doesn't do enough, and there are times where they have Cursecatcher or other sideboard counterspells and you'll wish you had SV. AotG is great against other decks but if we're just talking about Merfolk then SV is the clear winner.
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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

    I really like the ghostly prison idea, going to try that first.
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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

    Ghostly Prison has been great, definitely sticking with that card.
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    Re: [DECK] Jeskai Delver

    Ghostly Prison out...Anger of the Gods back in. It's been a little better.

    I have also switched from 3x Geist/1x VClique main to 4x Young Pyromancer main and sideboarding the legendaries. So far it has been excellent, and Geist out of the board completely wrecks UWR control, which I would think would be a hard matchup.

    Also, I dropped Forked Bolt for Basilisk Collar, and there's a ton of value in that 1 mana Equipment. Not only is it a machine gun for Grims it is also an incidental way to discourage attacking, gains some life to help in races, and is super efficient. Love it.

    EDIT: There's no way I'm not adding Jace TMS to this deck now. I think 1x Jace is exactly what this deck needed.
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