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    [RIX] Rivals of Ixalan

    Got our first two cards today courtesy of MTG Goldfish.

    First up we've got a reprint of Silvergill Adept

    Then we've got something interesting that might (but probably won't) see play in Legacy

    Ghalta, Primal Hunger
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    ~ costs X less to cast, where X is the total power of creatures you control.
    12/12

    I mean, two Tamogoyfs and this thing only costs GG. Like, it's not hard to get a huge cost discount on him, but that begs the question, if you've already got 12 power on the field, why do you need 12 more?

    Maybe tokens? I dunno.

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    Between this guy and Delve creatures, you can really get a Clash deck fired up. I can't wait to see what other obviously playable cards they can cram into this set.
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    Everybody do the dinosaur!
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    Re: [RIX] Rivals of Ixalan

    It's also weak to Karakas.

    Karakas - preventing legendary bullshit since 1994.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    It's also weak to Karakas.

    Karakas - preventing legendary bullshit since 1994.
    Meh, I'm pretty sure some dinosaurs are too heavy to bounce.
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    Turn 1 Forest Jungle Lion, turn 2 Forest double Invigorate dinosaur
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    Everyone is overlooking the most important part of this legendary dinosaur... It's got Elder in the type line! Finally some support for Elder tribal.

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    So Ghalta is a bad Dreadnought, cool. This card does do something important though, it gives Shadow decks trample - now Ghalta is clearly worse than Berserk, but this card should be fine in modern where they currently play incorrectly colored Shadow decks.

    Don't actually hate this card in Standard where you have playables like Greenbelt Rampager and a format friendlier to assembling spells. There is likely a competitive and cost-effecient window where you can forego buying green Gearhulk.

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    I doubt it's super-releavnt, but Ghalta does make Mosswort Bridge a lot easier to activate. Could definitely see him as an option in GW Tokens in Modern, though I'm not sure that deck needs a giant dude with Trample.

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    VialSmasher.dec approaching critical mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
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    I mean, two Tamogoyfs and this thing only costs GG. Like, it's not hard to get a huge cost discount on him, but that begs the question, if you've already got 12 power on the field, why do you need 12 more?

    Maybe tokens? I dunno.
    It could be Kiln Fiend and 3 instants too, but why wouldn't you just play Berserk or Tainted Strike at that point? Similarly, tokens would much prefer some kind of overrun.

    Maybe there's something in standard where you can combine him with Sunbird's Invocation but he's not viable in other constructed formats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    It could be Kiln Fiend and 3 instants too, but why wouldn't you just play Berserk or Tainted Strike at that point? Similarly, tokens would much prefer some kind of overrun.

    Maybe there's something in standard where you can combine him with Sunbird's Invocation but he's not viable in other constructed formats.
    WElp, time to make Riku again :D

    The reason being, this into Beacon of Tomorrows off an Invocation is spicy.

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    If he had Flash, it could have maybe been fringe playable in a Phyrexian Dreadnought deck, but alas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanni View Post
    If he had Flash, it could have maybe been fringe playable in a Phyrexian Dreadnought deck, but alas.
    If it had flash, hexproof, and uncounterable (or split second) on top of trample we might play 1-2x. Ghalta has no gain of function, and that is especially important barrier any effect would have to overcome to even begin making the cut in a Dreadnought list. Change Life's Legacy to instant and it's cost to - this is the power level Ghalta needs to compete versus, as a card that isn't cast-able until the condition of Dread on board has been met. Such cards at these cmcs do not yet exist, but it's only a matter of time.

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    Well, the point was that if it had Flash, it could both be an enabler (worse than Stifle, because it costs GG instead of U), or can be cast on a board with a resolved Dreadnought to beat Fatal Push or Abrupt Decay. But it doesn't have Flash, so it is irrelevant.
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    For general Legacy, think the card itself needs to be Split Second, 12/12 hexproof trample for GG to be splashable as a 1 of in the board. I think then it would be UU, and could maybe squeeze into the main occassionally.
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    I about died from laughter when I was watching my feature match and the commentators called Tinfins a difficult and challenging deck.

    I'm not saying it's the easiest deck to play, but the plan is so linear that I could probably get white girl wasted and still beat people with the deck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acclimation View Post
    I about died from laughter when I was watching my feature match and the commentators called Tinfins a difficult and challenging deck.

    I'm not saying it's the easiest deck to play, but the plan is so linear that I could probably get white girl wasted and still beat people with the deck.
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    Imagine the trauma of a man who has seen Mom into Crusader enough to mainboard three Cabal Pits.

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    Re: [RIX] Rivals of Ixalan

    Well looks like Strix is gonna see more play now; welcome to the Tolarian Tezzerator format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    Well looks like Strix is gonna see more play now; welcome to the Tolarian Tezzerator format.
    Well, this is a card with potential in affinity. Walking Ballista is a pretty good sink for that mana. Though I'm not sure it patches any of the weaknesses that affinity has in the first place.

    I guess you can also play it with some kind of artifact ramp, Chrome Mox, Grim Monolith, Mox Opal, artifact lands, and so on. Thing is, it's not that great with storm because you have to put a bunch of stuff into play and then wait a turn to flip it ... maybe end of turn Brain Freeze could work.

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