[BBD] Battlebond

[rufus]

Sorry, but opponent’s Brainstorm and counters trigger it as well?

You cast a Sorcery, he counters.. is that already 5 damages? Should you counter back would that be a 9 damage stack in total?

That thing wins alone if I read it well. 2 Bolts effect would be 11 damages? And the third kills.
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"Spells cast before that spell" so sorcery -> counter ends up being 3 damage and 2 bolts a total of 9.

Seems like the card would fit in well with Young Pyromancer but 4 mana is a lot.

[Barook]

"Spells cast before that spell" so sorcery -> counter ends up being 3 damage and 2 bolts a total of 9.

Seems like the card would fit in well with Young Pyromancer but 4 mana is a lot.

Sure, 4 mana is alot for those kinds of decks, but the damage potential it can dish out is amazing. Even cantrips can suddenly ping or shock or even bolt and countermagic suddenly becomes alot worse for your opponent . Since it can target planeswalkers and creatures, it's a CA engine that can also kill your opponent.

This is the probably the strongest card spoiled so far. It might be a game changer, but who knows. It even gets around Chalice - gather a bunch of 1cc spells in your hand and fire them all off in one turn for massive damage, since they only need to be cast.

[BenBleiweiss]

SEEMS too fragile but holy cow that effect!

[Barook]

SEEMS too fragile but holy cow that effect!

So it's a slower, more expensive, more fragile, but one-sided Show & Tell.

Putting stuff into play at instant speed seems interesting, though.

[ReAnimator]

This seems broken in half.

[Matsu]

This seems broken in half.

Might be played in Storm.

[Barook]

If you play Bonus Round after Bonus Round (e.g. via Past in Flames), do you get 4 spells?

1) Normal spell
2) Bonus Round #1
3) Bonus Round #2
4) Bonus Round Copy of #2

Or am I mistaken?

Edit:

Oh hey, look, it's the white Morphling!

[ReAnimator]

Pretty sure that works.

I think this creates a new storm deck all on it's own, or turns the mono red storm deck into an even more real thing, or possibly BR.
The fact you can burning wish for this too, and don't need any other win cons is great.

[Lemnear]

This seems broken in half.

Holy shit!

[rufus]

If you play Bonus Round after Bonus Round (e.g. via Past in Flames), do you get 4 spells?

1) Normal spell
2) Bonus Round #1
3) Bonus Round #2
4) Bonus Round Copy of #2

Or am I mistaken?

As long as the second one is being cast after the first one resolved, yes. Though it's not that hard to do silly things even when you only get one extra copy.

[PirateKing]

As long as the second one is being cast after the first one resolved, yes. Though it's not that hard to do silly things even when you only get one extra copy.

The implication is:
Step 1: Bonus Round
Step 2: Past in Flames
Step 3: Flashback Bonus Round
Step 4: Bonus Round (Copy)
Step 5: ???
Step 6: ??? (1st copy)
Step 7: ??? (2nd copy)
Step 8: ??? (3rd copy)
Step 9: Profit

[Kage]

Wow, they have actually printed a powerful red spell.

Mystic Confluence is a sweet reprint, hopefully Fiery is also in the set.

[qomori]

Wow, they have actually printed a powerful red spell.

Mystic Confluence is a sweet reprint, hopefully Fiery is also in the set.

Fiery lets you dome the opposing team for 12 damage in 2HG, which might be too strong

[Brael]

The implication is:
Step 1: Bonus Round
Step 2: Past in Flames
Step 3: Flashback Bonus Round
Step 4: Bonus Round (Copy)
Step 5: ???
Step 6: ??? (1st copy)
Step 7: ??? (2nd copy)
Step 8: ??? (3rd copy)
Step 9: Profit

Start at 3 mana, assume turns 1 and 2 involved some setup or whatever to put the cards together.
1. Tap 3 lands for RRR
2. Seething Song for RRRRR
3. Bonus Round leaving RR
4. Desperate Ritual for RRRRRR
5. Past in Flames leaving RR
6. Desperate Ritual flashback + Bonus for RRRRRR
7. Bonus Round flashback + Bonus leaving RRRR
8. Seething Song flashback + 3x Bonus for RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
9. Past in Flames flashback +3x Bonus just for storm count, leaving RRRRRRRRRRRR
10. Grapeshot +3x Bonus with Storm = 8.

Deal 36 damage.

[mistercakes]

copies don't have a storm trigger. (didn't look at your math but the numbers seem a bit high for grapeshot storm to trigger only one time)

[Brael]

copies don't have a storm trigger. (didn't look at your math but the numbers seem a bit high for grapeshot storm to trigger only one time)

Oh, didn't know that. That's a bit weaker then. I thought the copies triggered. In that case it would only deal 12, which is the same that a single Lightning Bolt deals.

In that case maybe you sequence a bit different:
1. Tap 3 lands for RRR
2. Seething Song for RRRRR
3. Bonus Round leaving RR
4. Desperate Ritual for RRRRRR
5. Past in Flames leaving RR
6. Desperate Ritual flashback + Bonus for RRRRRR
7. Bonus Round flashback + Bonus leaving RRRR
8. Seething Song flashback + 3x Bonus for RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
9. Lightning Bolt + 3x Bonus leaving RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR and deal 12 damage
9. Past in Flames flashback +3x Bonus, leaving RRRRRRRRRR
10. Lightning Bolt flashback +3x Bonus, leaving RRRRRRRRR and deal 12 damage

Alternatively, I guess you could still do Grapeshot+Flashback and get there on 26 damage from a cast, then PIF flashback, then a flashback.

[mistercakes]

i have a whole list of combos for pyromancer ascension on the ruby storm thread.

i'm not sure this card is better. you need a lot of mana to invest just to get this started since it will need to be done in the same turn. keep in mind your opponent can still get forked spells effects too.

if you do want to go crazy with this then i would recommend this sequence:

let's assume you don't have any reduction effect.

cast this new spell 1RR. cast seething song. get 10 mana.

seething song (10 red)
burning wish with (8 red).
fetching gamble and past in flames from sb.
cast gamble getting manamorphose and burning wish. (discarding both). (7 remaining) (keep in mind if you discard past in flames you can resp to the gamble copy by casting manamorphose, which will net you some more cards and mana)
cast past in flames (3)
flashback seething song (10 remaining)
cast manamorphose 8 red and 4 black.
cast burning wish. 6 red and 4 black.
get dark petition and tendrils.

[procobrito]

Wow, they have actually printed a powerful red spell.

Mystic Confluence is a sweet reprint, hopefully Fiery is also in the set.

Fiery got a reprint this year, in Commander Anthology 2018.

[Brael]

cast this new spell 1RR. cast seething song. get 10 mana.

I'm obviously not a storm player, but isn't wanting 6 mana to begin this sequence a bit too much of an ask?

[mistercakes]

Yea it is, but this was a combo like that is intended with an active pyromancer ascension.

I don't think this new red card is good outside of a wish target, and I prob wouldn't wish for it very often.