One of the most unsung cards in this MU is Simian Spirit Guide. Dodging Daze unexpectedly can be a blowout. The problem is the UR player will play around extra mana like Petal because it’s visible.
Burn has always been a terrible matchup, and UR Delver is just Burn ft. Force and Cantrips. With Arcanist, it's way more consistent and quicker, especially considering none of our creatures threaten to kill it with a block.
Personally, I'll just list the matchup as I always have: hope to dodge or have the nuts
So, about the price of Painter’s Servant and Grindstone...
I was tempted to ask in here what's going on with that, too. Is it connected to the price inflation of Storage Matrix in any way?
No, Painter was unbanned in EDH yesterday, I believe, I have a vague understanding of those non-competitive formats.
yeah, what's happening? Trend on MKM is 5€ for Painter, but starting @ 15€... Very strange!
Yea sorry guys; I’ve been hammering on about it to the folks at EDH about Painter being really tame for possibly up to years now.
Might get a reprint in some commander set in the future though, full of completely busted colour-hosing funness!
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Legacy decks: mono U painter, strawberry shortcake, imperial painter, solidarity, burn
EDH decks: zedruu voltron, rakdos the defiler, persistent petitioners, blind seer
Nah, you couldn't have known. Still not a bad price. The question is, is this just a spike driven off speculation following the announcement or a full correction?
I think Grindstone will go back down. It is against most EDH players ethos. It will hit games for the next few weeks and people will start to complain about it being unfun. That said, packing a grindstone with no painter could be good anti-painter hate...
Painter on the other hand, adds a new dimension that I think will have longevity. Old school colour hate cards will probably have a secondary price impact.
What is interesting is that it introduces players to the combo and that may drive them to painter legacy. Plenty of edh players had no idea about the card until yesterday.
Grindstone is also from a set with a much smaller print run.
Wow, the masterpieces are selling out everywhere. I was hoping to snag some signed masterpieces at some point.
Shadowmoor Painter stock is down 85% and OG grindstone 55% on Cardmarket.
went 1-3 in the local... Lost 2x against RU arcanist delver and 1x against ad nauseum storm. Beat esper control. All matches were 3 games..
I feel I get low on mana a lot with my playstyle or with 19 lands. I tried 2 blood moon, 1 canonist and 3 Karn, but obviously it wasn't the day for blood moon (besides stealing a game Vs esper). I wanted to see Karn more, but also feel like I wouldn't have the mana for it. Also the reason engineer isn't working out for me: awkward mana. Maybe it's my metagame.
I still want to give engineer a chance, maybe as a 1 of instead. Cratermaker is still boss. Ethersworn canonist is still great, and often I doubt between getting canonist vs blue or painter (and hope that I draw a grindstone). Tried trinisphere against RU arcanist but it's too slow and I get beat up meanwhile. The bolts are amazing but not enough. I'm a bit on the fence about copter in this matchup tbf. Best bet seems quick combo playing around daze with counter backup.
Storm seems really difficult without canonist in multiples .. (played 4 games Vs storm).
Any thoughts?
Hi Megadeus,
I've just moved into Shortcake since last week and have been jamming a lot of games past weekend with the local playgroup.
Seems luck was on my side when getting the missing Servants pre-unban. :)
Imperial Painter / Shortcake always has been a deck which I would like to play. Finally decided to buy in the white bordered P3K Recruiters. #noregrets
I'm on Jack's "newest tier 0" presented in the Source Wars Episode I. (Thanks for the read Jack) :)
New to the deck but not new to the format, I have end of turn tutored a bunch for Great Furnace to get my Turn 2/3 land drop secure.
It might be wrong to keep a spicy opening hand which has E.Tutor but is light on lands. But if the spicy hand only needs to secure landdrops, I don't see the problem in tutoring for Furnace.
Do the experienced players tutor for Furnace when there is no early Copter to secure landdrops? I guess it's kind of dependant on the boardstate and situation.
Could be wrong on this one, but tutoring an early game Copter is pretty nice. I think this is a decent play if it's undecided if you go for the combo or for the beatdown.
I was sceptical about Copter at first, but the hand fixing is very much needed.
Being able to tutor the obvious bullets (Bridge, Moon, Canonist) is sweet when the game moves forward.
This even gets better postboard where Karn can be too slow to get your Relic of Progenitus, Needle or Crypt in specific match-ups.
On an other topic. Correct me if this is a clunky play, but when you have a Painter in play, I have cast a Recruiter, getting Engineer, getting Grindstone a few times.
Can anyone confirm this is basically the idea of how to work the Recruiter and Engineer?
I'm also pretty curious on Hollywood's latest list with the Shamans and Coatings. Are you still on this list?
P.S.: The white-bordered P3K mountains are looking way too sweet!
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I've always found it punishing to keep a greedy 1 land hand. E tutor for furnace shouldn't be your first play, but outside of that it isn't necessarily a bad play always.
Recruiter for engineer for grindstone is also not a bad line, depends on the state of play. you're developing your board while meanwhile getting closer to your main kill line.
Bit of a strange question, by that I mean e-tutor lets you to be as slow or as aggressive as you want. Think of it more as a tool that at the cost of a card, it gives you a commanding (or game-winning) board position the next turn. What that target is will of course depend on everything. The speed and flexibility vs. long term advantage trade-off is definitely worth it, but sometimes you'll just have to hold it and wait a turn to see if you get a better end step window from your opponent.
Strawberry Shortcake
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...erry-Shortcake
What a brainstorm do? Draw card and activate on draw effects fix hand, removing woods
#FreeNedleeds
That’s the whole point of recruiter. It gets all the stuff that makes your deck run, and improves card quality as the game goes.
It’s one of the best cards in the deck actually. Recruiter for magus is becoming one of the best lines of the deck recently.
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