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    I am playing with this deck right now It has lot of synergy and it crushed a lot of decks.

    The synergy orcish lumberjack+titania/natural order/gsz.

    Crop+titania you get 2 5/3.

    Here is the improved version of the deck,

    pyroblast main for oko, delver and fow.

    satyr+hogaak has a lot of synergies against tempish decks

    safekeepers protect hogaak and combo with titania.

    This deck is really good

    // 60 Maindeck
    // 25 Creature
    2 Dryad Arbor
    4 Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis
    4 Satyr Wayfinder
    4 Orcish Lumberjack
    4 Titania, Protector of Argoth
    3 Tinder Wall
    4 Sylvan Safekeeper

    // 10 Instant
    4 Pyroblast
    3 Crop Rotation
    3 Once Upon a Time

    // 18 Land
    4 Wooded Foothills
    3 Windswept Heath
    2 Forest
    4 Taiga
    3 Thespian's Stage
    1 Dark Depths
    1 Stomping Ground

    // 7 Sorcery
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    3 Natural Order


    // 15 Sideboard
    // 7 Creature
    SB: 4 Collector Ouphe
    SB: 2 Reclamation Sage
    SB: 1 Dragonlord Atarka

    // 4 Enchantment
    SB: 3 Leyline of the Void
    SB: 1 Cindervines

    // 2 Instant
    SB: 2 Force of Vigor

    // 2 Land
    SB: 1 Karakas
    SB: 1 Bojuka Bog





    Previous versions that the deck evolved from :


    // 60 Maindeck
    // 3 Artifact
    3 Pithing Needle

    // 20 Creature
    1 Birds of Paradise
    2 Deathrite Shaman
    1 Dragonlord Atarka
    4 Orcish Lumberjack
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Sylvan Safekeeper
    2 Tireless Tracker
    4 Titania, Protector of Argoth
    2 Dryad Arbor
    1 Tinder Wall
    1 Xantid Swarm

    // 4 Instant
    4 Crop Rotation

    // 22 Land
    3 Dark Depths
    4 Forest
    2 Taiga
    4 Thespian's Stage
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Wooded Foothills
    1 Bayou

    // 11 Sorcery
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Natural Order
    3 Sylvan Scrying


    // 15 Sideboard
    // 2 Artifact
    SB: 2 Null Rod

    // 4 Creature
    SB: 1 Progenitus
    SB: 2 Reclamation Sage
    SB: 1 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed

    // 3 Enchantment
    SB: 3 Leyline of the Void

    // 3 Instant
    SB: 3 Ancient Grudge

    // 3 Land
    SB: 1 Bojuka Bog
    SB: 1 Maze of Ith
    SB: 1 Ghost Quarter



    EDIT : testing has shown that 3CC trinisphere are too slow against storm i splitted into 2 thorn 2 null rod, I didn't like these trinis
    also I cut a taiga for a fetch it has been ok so far and i didn't have issues with that

    cutted the fast elvish spirit guide guide for 4 sylvan scrying

    cutted one scrying for a safekkeper main.

    in testing ooze and ruric are not good maindeck i don't side them much

    testing has shown the deck is both worse than elf and lands so i don't think it is good enough ...

    added tireless tracker they are awesome
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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    No Dryad Arbor as a GSZ/fetchland target and NO fodder?

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    Orcish lumberjack is one of my favourite cards! You want at least 1 primeval titan. 4 Tinder wall seems odd with 0 Drs.

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    Lumberjack is the best! The vintage applejacks deck (basically a value survival engine + lumberjacks) was sooooooo much fun to play when vintage first came to mtgo. 4 titania's is just beautiful too, cool list.

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    No Dryad Arbor as a GSZ/fetchland target and NO fodder?
    there are 2 dryad in the deck they are counted as creature by coca


    kinda
    Orcish lumberjack is one of my favourite cards! You want at least 1 primeval titan. 4 Tinder wall seems odd with 0 Drs.
    you want to accelerate into big stuff and dont want to eat your fetch in graveyard cause they are needed for titania
    grim monolith has been tested inferno titan also but it was in a previous build without the dark depth combo this build is better
    primeval titan is not needed it is 6CC so harder to hardcast than titania and can fetch the combo but you dont want to overload on target.
    primary targets are dragon to wipe out the board or titania to kill if you have a crop

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    Quote Originally Posted by adrieng View Post
    there are 2 dryad in the deck they are counted as creature by coca
    Ah, I hate that! I was like, "I know him better than to leave those out!" Deck looks sweet. Gonna give it a try.

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    I'm still pretty sure you'd be happy swapping out a needle for a prime time NO target. Good point on Drs...maybe one birds then.

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    Sweet deck dude.

    I've only ever seen Orcish Lumberjack + Titania in this list before, but the other half of the deck is different. I think your list is better.
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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    this deck definitely wants maindeck Sylvan Safekeeper. It's not only good with Marit Lage...it's insane with Titania!

    Also like Ooze and Ruric MD for some Scryings or a Needle

    EDIT: just saw that you added Safekeeper, nvm

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    I'm pretty sure that ruric thar, the unbowed and progenitus should deserve a spot in the 75.
    Maybe Ruric maindeck as an hooser against combo in G1 and Progenitus from the side to bring in grindier mathcups.
    Ruric is also a house against delver decks btw.
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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    What match ups have you tried? How does it fare against the top decks of the format. :)

    I tried something similar, with greater gargadon, I like the fact that Crop Rotation is usable for other stuff. To bad Lumberjack isn't green. :P

    What are Needle for? (I know what they are good against, but I would like to know your reasoning behind them).

    Bane of Progress out of the board maybe? Have you tested Boseiju, Who Shelters All/Cavern of Souls as a sideboard weapon against counter spells. Another land that could be good out of the board would be Glacial Chasm.

    I second the safekeeper, it's one amazing creature!

    I actually think you are right not to include Ruric Thar and Progenitus in the main board. You don't need cards that are that difficult to hard cast. Delver runs rampant in my metagame and that dragon seems really nice. :)

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    What match ups have you tried? How does it fare against the top decks of the format. :)
    I played against grixis delver UR delver it is slightly favorable to even.

    Czesh pile can be little harder before side caus they have strix to block the marit lage and you don't have progenitus/grudge before side.

    Mono red stompy is a good matchup so is turbo depth.

    Death and taxces is a good matchup.

    miracle is not good, but you can manage sometimes to steal some games.

    eldrazi is favorable.

    needles are both for drs which stops titania from your fetch to come back and for wasteland depends of the situation.

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    The great thing about DRS running rampant in the meta is that Needle always have a target.

    How come mono R stompy is a good match-up? It seem to me that both Chalice for 1 and Blood Moon destroys this deck? Needle is a blank against them, ofc. you got grudge and gsz in to rec sage after board. But it seems to me that this deck would loose game one 99 % of the time. They should be able to steal one of game 2 or 3 with turn one blood moon/chalice or something in that order?

    D&T is another match-up where needle should shine.

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    No md way to deal with reanimator, storm, or sneak and show probably puts those matchups in the bad column.

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    Well needle turns Griselbrand in to a lifelink creature with no abilities other then that, that is horrible enogh. And you could race reanimator. Needle is good against sneak attack, but not so much against show. Maybe 1 karakas main somewhere, would be good with Needle? Storm is a bad match up before sideboarding, ruric thar could be an option.

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    What about to include Ramunap the Excavator? It can play well with Orcish Lumberjack and Titania.

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    What about to include Ramunap the Excavator? It can play well with Orcish Lumberjack and Titania.
    there are full of one off I'ld like to put in sejiri steppe ghost quarter maze bojuka bog gaddock teeg, primeval titan progenitus worldspine wurm ruric etc...
    but what would happen is that i draw them naturally and they suck, so I try to focuse on the primary goals titania beatdown or the combo or NO into dragon
    Ramunap the Excavator I didn't test it but in which matchup would I want it ?

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    Ramunap Exc. will recur combo pieces and fetches. I don't think the late game weapon that he is are very needful here.

    I would add Ruric (as a main deck weapon against storm/delver/miracles), Karakas, Bog, Progenitus or EW before Excavator. Maybe even a one of Wasteland, Ghost Quarter through CR makes 3 tokens when you destroy your own land. Eot, hitting for 20 when it becomes your turn.

    Did you test GQ as a one of? :D

    I have to proxy the deck and try it out.

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    Quote Originally Posted by TLK View Post
    No Dryad Arbor as a GSZ/fetchland target and NO fodder?
    No NO is a no-no.

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    Re: RGStuff By the creator of bigdrazi and dark depth

    One of the guys in the Lands Discord sent me this and I'm going to test it:

    //Creatures:
    1 Birds of Paradise
    2 Deathrite Shaman
    1 Dragonlord Atarka
    4 Orcish Lumberjack
    1 Primeval Titan
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Sylvan Safekeeper
    1 Thragtusk
    2 Tireless Tracker
    3 Titania, Protector of Argoth

    //Enchantments:
    1 Sylvan Library

    //Sorceries:
    4 Green Sun's Zenith
    4 Natural Order
    3 Sylvan Scrying

    //Instants:
    4 Crop Rotation

    //Artifacts:
    3 Pithing Needle

    //Lands:
    1 Bayou
    3 Dark Depths
    2 Dryad Arbor
    4 Forest
    2 Taiga
    4 Thespian's Stage
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Wooded Foothills

    //Sideboard:
    1 Bojuka Bog
    2 Choke
    1 Elderscale Wurm
    1 Karakas
    3 Leyline of the Void
    1 Obstinate Baloth
    1 Progenitus
    1 Reclamation Sage
    1 Sorcerous Spyglass
    3 Thorn of Amethyst
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