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    Hah! Skeleton Archer has creature types 'skeleton archer'. Pretty lazy of WotC... Are there any other creatures like this whose name is simply it's creature types?
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    You could make an argument that Armada Wurm should be creature type: "Artist was overcompensating for something."
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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Hah! Skeleton Archer has creature types 'skeleton archer'. Pretty lazy of WotC... Are there any other creatures like this whose name is simply it's creature types?


    Still sad that they errata'd him to be a Human.

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    Really only relevant if you're old enough to remember when Jayemdae Tome was good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    Liliana's Contract is bad, but man is it an interesting alt-win con. I heartily approve of this card.

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    When Liliana's Contract enters the battlefield, you draw four cards and you lose 4 life.

    At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control four or more Demons with different names, you win the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    Liliana's Contract is bad, but man is it an interesting alt-win con. I heartily approve of this card.

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    When Liliana's Contract enters the battlefield, you draw four cards and you lose 4 life.

    At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control four or more Demons with different names, you win the game.
    Agreed it is terrible but I won't rest until I make a casual Mirror Entity + 3 other creatures + Liliana's contract combo work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Agreed it is terrible but I won't rest until I make a casual Mirror Entity + 3 other creatures + Liliana's contract combo work.
    Opalescence + Arcane Adaptation (or Conspiracy) + Contract + 2 random enchantments with different names would also win the game. Probably only feasible with Replenish.

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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    Less hoops to jump through if you play changelings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Less hoops to jump through if you play changelings...
    Now we're thinking with portals. I don't think it's good, but I'm down to try. This deck is RBG? Taurean Mauler and Collosus are the best of the changelings plus you get other bad demons? Too bad you can't trigger this with persecutor out
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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post


    Not too sure what to think about that one. Doesn't seem Legacy-good to me on the first glance.
    This card seems really powerful to me. It's certainly more narrow than Jace, TMS, but it's much better than Jace in an artifact deck. Between this and Karn, I think a blue + artifact deck could turn out to be very good. Tezzerator is already a deck, but redundancy has a way of helping decks rise to the top. A blue Chalice deck that doesn't run out of cards seems very potent and worthy of exploring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESG View Post
    This card seems really powerful to me. It's certainly more narrow than Jace, TMS, but it's much better than Jace in an artifact deck. Between this and Karn, I think a blue + artifact deck could turn out to be very good. Tezzerator is already a deck, but redundancy has a way of helping decks rise to the top. A blue Chalice deck that doesn't run out of cards seems very potent and worthy of exploring.
    It's certainly powerful, but I think that Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas is already a bit more powerful in the same type of deck. Maybe it's worth trying for those that are running Tezzeret the Seeker, but I also think Seeker's tutor ability might be more worth it than just card draw.
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    it's probably more of a vintage card, but i'm not sure if it's better than the original blue tezzeret. in decks that would play him in legacy, agent of bolas is likely better since he can just win the following turn. it's still a good card, just not sure it's at the same level as the previous versions.

    maybe a mono blue affinity deck could try it, since getting 2 colors is pretty rough and it's nice to have thoughtcast. playing 2 colors for bolas always made it challenging to find the right mana at the right time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    it's probably more of a vintage card, but i'm not sure if it's better than the original blue tezzeret. in decks that would play him in legacy, agent of bolas is likely better since he can just win the following turn. it's still a good card, just not sure it's at the same level as the previous versions.

    maybe a mono blue affinity deck could try it, since getting 2 colors is pretty rough and it's nice to have thoughtcast. playing 2 colors for bolas always made it challenging to find the right mana at the right time.
    Original Tezzeret is good in Vintage because he can either fetch up silver bullets or fetch the missing card for the Time Vault combo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bosque View Post
    It's certainly powerful, but I think that Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas is already a bit more powerful in the same type of deck. Maybe it's worth trying for those that are running Tezzeret the Seeker, but I also think Seeker's tutor ability might be more worth it than just card draw.
    Technically, you could run both now since the PW rules changed. Artifice Master could ramp up the artifact count in one way or the other to gurantee to AoB's ultimate kills without fail. He might be still better in Standard or Modern in tandem with Karn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Now we're thinking with portals. I don't think it's good, but I'm down to try. This deck is RBG? Taurean Mauler and Collosus are the best of the changelings plus you get other bad demons? Too bad you can't trigger this with persecutor out
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    I think we're best in BUR. That also gives us Lightning Bolt and Brainstorm, like real decks have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Technically, you could run both now since the PW rules changed. Artifice Master could ramp up the artifact count in one way or the other to gurantee to AoB's ultimate kills without fail. He might be still better in Standard or Modern in tandem with Karn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Do we want to be a Vial deck?
    Hell no. You don't want those changelings either. What you need are Lord of the Pit, Demonic Hordes, Yawgmoth Demon, and Mold Demon so you can lose with this card like Satan intended. No Grisselbees or Raspberrykeiths here, just old school [s]Demons[/s] Beasts.

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