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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    At least post the card:



    What does it hit? Manadorks (especially DRS), Vial, Mom, Delver, various Elf creatures, fringe stuff like Veteran Explorer, burn creatures, etc.
    Would it really have killed them to have it say 1 or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    Would it really have killed them to have it say 1 or less?
    1 mana exile target land seems like a good thing to have in the format.
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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    Would it really have killed them to have it say 1 or less?
    Yes. That thing would kill lands otherwise.
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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    Would it really have killed them to have it say 1 or less?
    You mean for bring able to remove chalice @ 2, Marit Lage or flipped Delver? Yeah, would have favored that as well.

    Edit: Of course it would need a non-land clause
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    You mean for bring able to remove chalice @ 2, Marit Lage or flipped Delver? Yeah, would have favored that as well.

    Edit: Of course it would need a non-land clause
    Transformed cards retain their cmc now I think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    Transformed cards retain their cmc now I think?
    As worded I think Isolate can actually exile transformed Legion's Landing. Can anyone confirmed the land side has cmc1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    As worded I think Isolate can actually exile transformed Legion's Landing. Can anyone confirmed the land side has cmc1?
    flip cards have the same cmc on both sides. so yes, i guess flipped legion's landing can be exiled by this spell.

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    My bad, folks
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    1 mana exile target land seems like a good thing to have in the format.
    “nonland permanent” and you had a decent card. It wouldn’t even have killed Chalice and I wouldn’t have played it even in a list with 4 StP favouring Disenchant..

    Reaction cards must be super broad to find their slots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poron View Post
    “nonland permanent” and you had a decent card. It wouldn’t even have killed Chalice and I wouldn’t have played it even in a list with 4 StP favouring Disenchant..

    Reaction cards must be super broad to find their slots
    It seems like the 'cantrip cartel' meta pushes the card out pretty hard: Brainstorm decks would rather play cantrips, it gets clipped by most of the same hate as brainstorm, so anti-brainstorm decks don't want to play it, and the variety in hate cards is too big to make it viable in all-in combo.

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    It didn't click the first time I saw it, but that's a Rare. That's some hot garbage to pull as your rare in a pack. I know it's a core set but come on.

    That's along with the B: Exile target Eldrazi card too.

    Wonder if the other colors are going to have trash 1cc conditional crap removal too.
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    I think it really is better the more non creatures it kills. If you want to kill creatures you have much better options. This shines when it hits non creatures. Ironically this would've been an answer to opposing tops. Basically it kills vial? What other 1 cmc non creatures matter in the format? I guess exploration and it can hit needles?
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    I think Isolate would have been a sexy card if it said "nonland" and "or less" and was also uncounterable or something. Or if they put "permanent or spell". Yes, I understand there is history here. But as it is, the card is too narrow by a good margin for the one format where it looks like it might have a home. The format would have to be deep in the grips of a broken permanent to need this card with the way it is printed now. And even then this would suck as an answer.
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    Liliana's Contract is bad, but man is it an interesting alt-win con. I heartily approve of this card.

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    At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control four or more Demons with different names, you win the game.

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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    Liliana's Contract is bad, but man is it an interesting alt-win con. I heartily approve of this card.

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    At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control four or more Demons with different names, you win the game.
    Looks like a worse Infernal Contract me *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    I think it really is better the more non creatures it kills. If you want to kill creatures you have much better options. This shines when it hits non creatures. Ironically this would've been an answer to opposing tops. Basically it kills vial? What other 1 cmc non creatures matter in the format? I guess exploration and it can hit needles?
    Not quite, would have needed split second or a clause that said "when this spell has no legal target as it resolves, target opponent mills 3 cards"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    The format would have to be deep in the grips of a broken permanent to need this card with the way it is printed now.
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    I about died from laughter when I was watching my feature match and the commentators called Tinfins a difficult and challenging deck.

    I'm not saying it's the easiest deck to play, but the plan is so linear that I could probably get white girl wasted and still beat people with the deck.
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    https://imgur.com/gallery/Txruj9G

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    What puts counters on a player that they want to keep outside of EDH anyway? Experience counters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    What puts counters on a player that they want to keep outside of EDH anyway? Experience counters?
    Energy. This was the energy counter hoser that would have been nice in Standard four sets ago but which is sadly irrelevant now in a land of red creatures with haste.

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