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    This card still doesn't stop Sea -> DRS -> inevitable turn 2 Hymn. In general this Amulet of Safekeeping also does nothing to dissuade modern from being discard: the gathering. A rare that doesn't need to exist, and ruins a draft format (though I don't have any idea whether or not core sets are ever drafted). Next time stay closer to Watchdog R&D....I guess. Unsure what the point of reprinting mildly different Damping Sphere is...

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    The problem with wizards approach is that it will miss the target on grounds that Noone can afford to dedicate sideboard slots on somethings so narrow as the Amulet.
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    If they actually wanted the Amulet to hose storm, it would cost (0) and have Hexproof and Flash. But it doesn't, so it's more useless than Thalia or your other average hatebear since it will still get bounced before they go off and doesn't attack.

    Trash card is trash. Maybe they think it will work vs. Modern Storm? Because Abrade doesn't exist. Lol.

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    I could imagine a world where Amulet sees some play in Sneak and Show sideboards. Some people play Leyline of Sanctity and this does a somewhat reasonable approximation of what Leyline does for SnS. Storm still cant win without bouncing it so it's about the same there. It's not as good in effect against discard heavy decks like Pile obviously but making discard spells cost one more and slowing the deck down by a turn isn't nothing, plus this card can actually be cast out of the hand unlike Leyline. Plus it would open up some SB slots because SnS basically has to play 4 Leylines to maximize the chances of it being in the opening hand. I dunno, it may not be good enough but that's as likely of a home as I can think of in legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    In general this Amulet of Safekeeping also does nothing to dissuade modern from being discard: the gathering.
    lol

    A rare that doesn't need to exist, and ruins a draft format (though I don't have any idea whether or not core sets are ever drafted).
    lol

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    Modern will be Discard: the Gathering as long as it does have combo and doesn't have counterspells worth a damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    My thought too after further thought. Not stopping the set up means storm still just does it's thing and then kills you
    It’s worse than W hate bears, but interestingly in BUG it stops Tendrils of Agony in a match up where Storm normally doesn’t SB in bounce and it stops Empty the Warrens in a match up where Storm wants to SB in as many copies of the card as possible. But it just sounds like a shitty Stifle, so meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    If they actually wanted the Amulet to hose storm, it would cost (0) and have Hexproof and Flash. But it doesn't, so it's more useless than Thalia or your other average hatebear since it will still get bounced before they go off and doesn't attack.

    Trash card is trash. Maybe they think it will work vs. Modern Storm? Because Abrade doesn't exist. Lol.
    I'm not sure what you really mean. Why would wizards want a hoser of storm that storm can't beat even with sideboard cards!? That's totally uninteractive.
    Canonist with mother protection is pretty hard for storm to beat, but at least there's a deck building cost to it. That a card "dies to removal" doesnt make it trash. It makes it balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeron View Post
    I could imagine a world where Amulet sees some play in Sneak and Show sideboards. Some people play Leyline of Sanctity and this does a somewhat reasonable approximation of what Leyline does for SnS. Storm still cant win without bouncing it so it's about the same there. It's not as good in effect against discard heavy decks like Pile obviously but making discard spells cost one more and slowing the deck down by a turn isn't nothing, plus this card can actually be cast out of the hand unlike Leyline. Plus it would open up some SB slots because SnS basically has to play 4 Leylines to maximize the chances of it being in the opening hand. I dunno, it may not be good enough but that's as likely of a home as I can think of in legacy.
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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    This effect looks "interesting", at the very least:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    This effect looks "interesting", at the very least:

    Runic Armasaur 1GG
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    2/5
    On a three drop double green it looks a bit too hard to play. What commonly used abilities will it get draws off of? Fetchland activation. Stoneforge. what else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bithlord View Post
    On a three drop double green it looks a bit too hard to play. What commonly used abilities will it get draws off of? Fetchland activation. Stoneforge. what else?
    Deathrite, of course. I could see this being pretty, pretty good against Lands as it's pretty hard to remove through Punishing Fire. Reminds me of the discussion around Harsh Mentor. I think you're right though that the double green is the real barrier here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bithlord View Post
    On a three drop double green it looks a bit too hard to play. What commonly used abilities will it get draws off of? Fetchland activation. Stoneforge. what else?
    Wasteland. Some of DRS's stuff. Hexmage. Stage. Ravager. Not sure on the wording, but any creature or land that cycles I think - it doesn't say "in play".

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    Quote Originally Posted by filln View Post
    Deathrite, of course. I could see this being pretty, pretty good against Lands as it's pretty hard to remove through Punishing Fire. Reminds me of the discussion around Harsh Mentor. I think you're right though that the double green is the real barrier here.
    If UG Threshold was still a thing I could see it possibly working in there. The 5 toughness is kind of intriguing.

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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    Wasteland. Some of DRS's stuff. Hexmage. Stage. Ravager. Not sure on the wording, but any creature or land that cycles I think - it doesn't say "in play".
    It doesn't have to say "in play" - if it caught everything, it would refer to "creature or land card".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bithlord View Post
    On a three drop double green it looks a bit too hard to play. What commonly used abilities will it get draws off of? Fetchland activation. Stoneforge. what else?
    There are a couple of untap abilities like Arbor Elf and Quirion Ranger, the draw ability of Horizon Canopy, and Knight of the Reliquary. There are a bunch more in modern.

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    There are a bunch more in modern.
    Sure. But I'm not interested in playing modern :P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    Wasteland. Some of DRS's stuff. Hexmage. Stage. Ravager.
    All of DRS's stuff. Plus Rishadan Port, Mother of Runes, Wirewood Symbiote, Maze of Ith, Grim Lavamancer...

    Dinosaur would draw you some cards over the course of a tournament, but I don't think it'll make the cut in Legacy.

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    Re: [M19] M19 Spoilers

    fetches are pretty big. deathrite is the obvious one. i think it's more about what matchups it's useful. seems great vs elves if nothing else. could be okay vs miracles too since they run so many fetches (and actually get to use a lot of them.)

    seems cool with doran if that's ever a thing.
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