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    Re: Esper Arena Rector (Esper friends/Esper gladiators)

    Yeah, that was me. Decided to give it a try. First challenge I've ever played actually. Lost round 1 to turn 1 BR reanimator draws in 2 games and then lost my win and in against miracles in 3 games. Went 5-2. I do feel like the deck needs some SB hate against miracles. Otherwise it had been performing really well lately.

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    Ah, congrats. In my experience Miracles is quite an easy matchup, though I do load up on pierces which shut down a lot of their scarier draws like early counterbalance and/or jace. Lately I've been playing a few Lingering Souls in the board and they would also help.

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    I actually stole a little tech from a guy I saw streaming and playing the miracles mirror. He was playing palace jailer in the board. They are ridiculously good in the miracles match up because they just don't have many threats. If you stick a jailer your are likely drawing an extra card the rest of the game as long as you can control their 3-4 cards that actually can do combat damage. Hope much discard are you playing?


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    Hey all, recently put together this deck. I am really liking it, but I am finding the sac outlets for arena rector are a little light. I find myself always digging and digging. Anyone else find this? Trying to think up some extra sac outlets that don't weigh the deck down.

    Incredibly tempted to try something like viscera seer, or splash green for evolutionary leap. Just some thoughts.

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    throwing my .02 in here and this deck just screams nic fit. Not sure why it's being jammed into blue. Your combo color's aren't blue. This deck revolves around 7 cards that I'm seeing. 4 rector and the 3 planes walker targets for it. Nic fit can make this deck work faster, provide alternate win cons, and naturally support it with the creature base and sac outlets. It can also hard cast planeswalkers in a bind.

    Also, this seems either too slow or not powerful enough for legacy meta, but it does seem like it would do alright in modern.
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    @guitarnewf: I get what you are saying. My original iteration of the deck had more of a split of creature removal such as edict and fatal push so that I could target rector. At this point though with 14 cantrips I can usually find a sac outlet. One card I did consider was diabolic intent but you would probably have to increase your creature count to make it viable. I don't think I would add another color though. There's plenty in Black to send rector to the bin.

    @apple: I think we are all well aware of the nic fit build using arena rector and frankly it sucks. Sure blue isn't in the colors of the combo but the same could be said about storm. Brainstorm, ponder and force are pretty strong cards and there is a reason they are the backbone of most combo decks in legacy. Also, this deck often plays more as a control deck. Cantrips allow you to find the cards you need, including your combo pieces. Nic fit is just a different deck and in my opinion is just too fragile and not consistent enough.

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    Re: Esper Arena Rector (Esper friends/Esper gladiators)

    So in case anyone still has interest in this type of deck, Andrea Mengucci ran a somewhat similar list in his Channel Fireball YouTube video here: https://youtu.be/oaoqc6dARfg

    This is more of a Miracles build of the deck running more countermagic over thoughtseize main along with Terminus and a Counterbalance in the main. He is not running baleful strix. Sounds like he got the list from somewhere else where someone finished high at a tournament with the deck. Honestly, I can get behind this build as strix has not been good lately. It does cantrip but does not act very well in defense. There is so much creature removal in the format now that it just never gets a chance to block. So, I'm going to port over to a similar Miracles list and see how that runs. I still however like one copy of Lim-Dul's Vault in the main as it has been really really good for me. He is also playing NB, God Pharaoh over NB, Planewalker which I just hate. It's better against STORM decks, but that's about it.
    Also, I think the new Teferi will also be good in the list. It will allow us to combo off without pesky counterspells or surgicals getting in the way. It will also let us terminus at instant speed on our opponent's turn off of a ponder or preordain, and it will bounce troublesome permanents so that we can therapy them away. Looking forward to this upgrade.

    I think after the new set comes out, my list will look something like this:

    // Esper Rector

    // 60 Maindeck

    // 6 Creature
    2 Snapcaster Mage
    3 Arena Rector
    1 Monastery Mentor

    // 12 Instant
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Force of Will
    3 Swords to Plowshares
    1 Lim-Dul's Vault
    1 Spell Pierce

    // 16 Sorcery
    4 Ponder
    4 Cabal Therapy
    4 Preordain
    3 Terminus

    // 1 Enchantment
    1 Counterbalance

    // 5 Planeswalker
    2 Teferi, Time Raveler
    1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
    1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

    // 20 Land
    4 Flooded Strand
    3 Island
    1 Phyrexian Tower
    1 Plains
    4 Polluted Delta
    1 Scrubland
    1 Swamp
    2 Tundra
    1 Underground Sea
    1 Cavern of Souls
    1 Volcanic Island

    SB is still a work in progress and will depend on how the meta shapes up after the new set. I have actually been play Leyline of Sanctity in the board and with the new mulligan rule it's not bad. I know it won't be a popular choice for most people though. Anyway, interesting to see some pros take on the deck. Admittedly I was really have a hard time with hoard decks like goblins and such but hopefully the 3 terminus main will help those match-ups. We shall see.

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    The list Mengucci played in the veedio is one that top 8'd the recent Legacy Premier on MTGO.

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1787530#paper

    I'm not a fan of some of the choices, particularly the sideboard, but it's overall fairly similar to some of the lists I've run. I agree it's a pure mistake to play Bolas GP instead of Bolas Planeswalker, it makes no sense really and somewhat explains why the pilot claimed S&S is a really hard matchup for them. I haven't had any opportunities to play in the past few months, but I'm looking forward to trying out my stoneblade hybrid version soon, as well as giving the miracles style build a try again too after this result.

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