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    [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Commander 2018 is overall pretty underwhelming, but I still think Aminatou, the Fateshifter is an interesting card. I brewed this list up to give her a try:

    Commander:
    Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Creatures:
    Gilded Drake
    Baleful Strix
    Snapcaster Mage
    Wall of Omens
    Eldrazi Displacer
    Reflector Mage
    Clever Impersonator
    Conundrum Sphinx
    Archaeomancer
    Gonti, Lord of Luxury
    Twilight Prophet
    Ravenous Chupacabra
    Glen Elendra Archmage
    Felidar Guardian
    Cloudblazer
    Mulldrifter
    Reveillark
    Riftwing Cloudskate
    Deadeye Navigator
    Vela the Night-clad
    Sun Titan
    Angel of Serenity
    Ashen Rider

    Instants:
    Vampiric Tutor
    Swords to Plowshares
    Path to Exile
    Brainstorm
    Arcane Denial
    Lim-Dul's Vault
    Anguished Unmaking
    Teferi's Protection
    Utter End
    Fact or Fiction
    Desertion

    Sorcery:
    Mystic Speculation
    Ponder
    Portent
    Demonic Tutor
    Read the Bones
    Damnation
    Wrath of God
    Entreat the Angels
    Entreat the Dead

    Artifacts:
    Sol Ring
    Sensei's Divining Top
    Scroll Rack
    Azorius Signet
    Dimir Signet
    Orzhov Signet
    Talisman of Dominance
    Talisman of Progress
    Strionic Resonator
    Chromatic Lantern
    Panharmonicon

    Enchantments:
    Mystic Remora
    Oversold Cemetery
    Search for Azcanta
    Reality Acid
    Puca's Mischief

    Planeswalkers:
    Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    Venser, the Sojourner
    Sorin, Grim Nemesis

    Lands:
    Watery Grave
    Hallowed Fountain
    Godless Shrine
    Sunken Hollow
    Prarie Stream
    Fetid Pools
    Irrigated Farmland
    Flooded Strand
    Polluted Delta
    Marsh Flats
    Bad River
    Flood Plain
    Caves of Koilos
    Underground River
    Adarkar Wastes
    Temple of Deceit
    Temple of Silence
    Temple of Enlightenment
    Fetid Heath
    Sunken Ruins
    Mystic Gate
    Reflecting Pool
    Command Tower
    Forge of Heroes
    Reliquary Tower
    Bojuka Bog
    Strip Mine
    Isolated Watchtower
    Soldevi Excavations
    3 Snow-covered Island
    3 Snow-covered Swamp
    2 Snow-covered Plains

    I know that Terminus is more or less a shoe-in for a deck like this, but it's actively against my "flickering creatures for fun and profit" plan. It might still end up being worth it, though...so it's definitely on my radar.

    As far as winning the game, you can go infinite with Aminatou, the Fateshifter, Felidar Guardian and Vela, the Night-Clad. I thought about adding in Altar of the Brood as an alternative to Vela, but it's pretty mediocre without Felidar Guardian, and it's also soft to any sort of eldrazi titan or similar card that shuffles the graveyard into the library.

    The other sort of neat thing this deck does is abuse Gilded Drake and Puca's Mischief. Trade something, then use Aminatou or Venser to blink your thing back and still keep theirs.

    Another neat trick is Reality Acid, as blinking it short circuits the vanishing and gets rid of problematic permanents. Plus, the permanent is sacrificed, which is pretty relevant vs. some decks.

    Finally, there's Entreat the Angels and Entreat the Dead as miracle pay off cards.

    Suggestions are always welcome
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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Sorin, Grim Nemesis and Narset Transcendent both interact with the top card of your library and provide card advantage.

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Sorin, Grim Nemesis and Narset Transcendent both interact with the top card of your library and provide card advantage.
    I'm not sure how good Narset actually is here. By my count, there's 39 potential hits for her first ability, which is a decent amount. Two of those are miracles, so there's really 37 cards that could be revealed and drawn. As far as her second ability, there's 11 spells that would be worth giving rebound, which doesn't seem like enough, especially since about half of them are instant speed, so casting them main phase is less than ideal. The emblem is nice, but I can't imagine a world in which I ever got there.

    Sorin though...that's a different ball of wax. He seems like a fairly solid inclusion here. With all of the ways to set up what the top card of my deck is, his +1 seems pretty nuts. His second ability is also fairly useful, and his ultimate is a decent way to try and close out a game if I ever got there. i'll definitely see about picking up a copy.

    Thanks for the suggestions!

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Double posting in my own thread...

    Made a couple edits:

    Out

    Enlightened Tutor
    Detention Sphere

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    Sorin, Grim Nemesis
    Twilight Prophet

    Not sure how I missed Twilight Prophet the first time around, but it's basically Sorin's +1 on a creature that I can easily buy back with Reveillark.

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Somehow I forgot that Lim-Dul's Vault exists. So...

    - Arbiter of the Ideal, + Lim-Dul's Vault


    Took the deck for its maiden voyage last night, and ended up with a fairly middling draw. I get get to Gilded Drake an Atraxa though, so that was something .

    I did discover that shuffle effects are king in this list. I went through all 5 fetches and a Ponder, and still wanted more. There were a bunch of times where I'd +1 Aminatou, draw crap, and put crap back on top of the deck...so having some way to get rid of it is something I need to work on. I might try and find room for something like Crystal Ball that will let me get rid of chaff on the regular.

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Quote Originally Posted by Davran View Post
    I did discover that shuffle effects are king in this list. I went through all 5 fetches and a Ponder, and still wanted more. There were a bunch of times where I'd +1 Aminatou, draw crap, and put crap back on top of the deck...so having some way to get rid of it is something I need to work on. I might try and find room for something like Crystal Ball that will let me get rid of chaff on the regular.
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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    That one is on my list of stuff that's maybe good but probably isn't. I like the effect, but a 5 mana shuffle is kind of a lot. The quasi-scroll rack effect is also potentially useful, but again, it just costs so much to actually make it work.

    What I really want is Madblind Mountain, but it's the wrong color.

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Ahh, got it.

    Have you looked at Myr Mindservant?

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    You can always fail to find with Land Tax, which gives you a shuffle per turn.

    Alternately, anything that will let you mill yourself will get rid of chaff.

    Soldevi Excavations lets you scry. Actually, is Mystic Speculation worth it at all?

    EDIT: Actually, why not Search for Azcanta? You can hit over a third of your deck after you flip it, and it filters away Aminatou chaff too.

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Ahh, got it.

    Have you looked at Myr Mindservant?
    I have literally never seen that card before. I wonder if it's any better than Crystal Ball? 1 CMC is relevant if I find a slot for a Trinket Mage or something...which also just reminded me that Darksteel Pendant exists, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies View Post
    You can always fail to find with Land Tax, which gives you a shuffle per turn.

    Alternately, anything that will let you mill yourself will get rid of chaff.

    Soldevi Excavations lets you scry. Actually, is Mystic Speculation worth it at all?

    EDIT: Actually, why not Search for Azcanta? You can hit over a third of your deck after you flip it, and it filters away Aminatou chaff too.
    Land Tax is always so hit or miss for me. In the first couple turns it's great, but if there's no one playing an absurd ramp deck drawing it on turn 10 or whatever is just awful.

    Self-mill is an interesting suggestion, I didn't really consider that. I think scry might be better since I have a bunch of cards that care about the top card of my deck.

    Soldevi Excavations should definitely be in here. Not sure how I missed it, so thanks for reminding me.

    Is Mystic Speculation better than Predict, or maybe even Portent? Scrying chaff to the bottom is basically identical to a shuffle in terms of what this deck is looking to do, and the buyback is kind of drawing a card? I think I'll try it out in the Predict slot and see how it performs.

    Search for Azcanta is another excellent suggestion I can't believe I missed. Both sides are relevant to what I want to be doing, so in it goes.


    Some changes:

    - Predict, + Mystic Speculation
    - Future Sight, + Search for Azcanta
    - Plains, + Soldevi Excavations

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    I would run Speculation of Portent rather than Predict. Neither Portent nor Speculation draw you a card right away, and shuffling is sort of equivalent to Scry in most cases. You have some minor graveyard synergies with Predict, too.

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies View Post
    I would run Speculation of Portent rather than Predict. Neither Portent nor Speculation draw you a card right away, and shuffling is sort of equivalent to Scry in most cases. You have some minor graveyard synergies with Predict, too.
    Another good point. Thanks for the suggestion :)

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    SCG's Bernie did his take on Aminatou.
    http://www.starcitygames.com/article...d-If-I-Do.html

    Only card he mentioned that I was pretty impressed with was The Eldest Reborn.

    But here's a few others he liked:
    Sigiled Starfish
    Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign
    Primordial Mist

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    Honestly, The Mirari Conjecture and The Phyrexian Scriptures seem like better sagas. I've been experimenting with The Eldest Reborn in other decks and my biggest issue with it is that it's fairly easy to blank. Both The Abyss and Necrogen Mists tend to be pretty easy to power through for all but the most durdley of decks, and alternating between them just dilutes the rate at which you hit the model that's more painful for a given opponent. The worst part is that the first two chapters tend to be better against completely different decks, with control hating the sacrifice and aggro / midrange hating the discard, so TER tends to be just really mediocre.

    The third chapter is the best one by far but you won't hit it if you're flickering the card with Aminatou every other turn.

    TMC at least is recursion and TPS is a sweeper every other turn, which shuts down a lot of decks hard.

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    Re: [EDH] Aminatou, the Fateshifter

    I'm not sure where I land on the sagas. If I were going to run one, Phyrexian Scriptures would probably be it...but it seems pretty slow. Making a creature an artifact is fairly short lived in a deck that wants to be blinking creatures for value, so repeat Chapter 1 is only ok. Chapter 2 is the real meat of the thing, but you're still 2 upkeeps away from that wrath every time you reset it.

    Mirari Conjecture could be ok, but for the same price I could run Mnemonic Wall or whatever that 5 mana 2/2 out of M19 is called. It's a better effect that can attack or block, can be re-bought with Reveillark/Oversold Cemetery/Volrath's Stronghold, and is just as repeatable. Chapter 3 is cute with exactly Entreat the Angels...but setting that up is pretty difficult.

    Eldest Reborn could be fine too...but there's also Fleshbag Marauder type things too if The Abyss is something I want access to.

    Sigiled Starfish is on my radar for sure...possibly over Wall of Omens.

    Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign is a pretty sweet card, but I don't know how good it is in my exact list. I count 25 "hits", which is probably fine...but I think the slot is better spent on something else.

    Primordial Mist is a cool card too that I might try out sometime. Random 2/2 dudes made from useless cards could be something I want.


    Just a quick anecdote - played a game with the deck last night and Search for Azcanta was excellent on the front half. I ended up flipping it to the back side on the turn I was more or less forced to combo off so I didn't get to mess around with that, but I'm sure it would have been good. Predict over Portent was also fairly relevant that game, so that seems like a good swap too.

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