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    Re: [Primer] UB Death's Shadow

    Small event with a similar list as previous
    Inspired by Gavin Enderlin (Basic_Swamp on MTGO) I cut 1 Dismember for 1 Snuff Out but that was the only change from the previous version

    2-0 UBRG Control
    1-2 Chalice Post
    2-1 UG Eldrazi Stompy (No chalice but with Stirrings, Hierarch, Stub)

    I think Snuff Out has a lot of upsides for 0 mana but idk if I would want to play 2 because being able to overpay mana for dismember can be good and 2x copies of an uncontrollable -4 life could be a bit risky

    To compensate for Gargoyle being relatively weak defensively I could see it being correct to cut the preordain and/or 1 stub for a 2nd push or a Drown in the Loch

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    Re: [Primer] UB Death's Shadow

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Ark4n has been doing well with UB Shadow in the last few days.
    He got another 5-0 yesterday (or at least one, while I was tuned in).

    I think Gurmag is likely the tertiary threat you generally want, unless there is some really compelling metagame factor to mitigate.

    Snuff Out has been pretty good for him too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    I think Gurmag is likely the tertiary threat you generally want, unless there is some really compelling metagame factor to mitigate.
    Borrower is really popular now which is something to consider

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    Re: [Primer] UB Death's Shadow

    Quote Originally Posted by kombatkiwi View Post
    Borrower is really popular now which is something to consider
    Ah, yeah, I think I'd be more likely to consider that a sideboard card, but I could see it being maindeck material in certain metas. Like, if you are apt to see lots of Chalice, or Depth, for example. Even so, I still think you'd want at least one Angler though.
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    Re: [Primer] UB Death's Shadow

    The slot my main deck Borrower takes is the 2nd Reanimate, still 2 anglers. Borrower is generally better in my metagame atm than reanimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Ah, yeah, I think I'd be more likely to consider that a sideboard card, but I could see it being maindeck material in certain metas. Like, if you are apt to see lots of Chalice, or Depth, for example. Even so, I still think you'd want at least one Angler though.
    Well that's 1 way to interpret it (you can play your own Borrower competing for slots with your Angler) but what I meant was if Borrower is popular for your opponent then it makes Angler a lot worse (when your delve creature gets bounced it can be hard to replay it again)

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    Re: [Primer] UB Death's Shadow

    Quote Originally Posted by kombatkiwi View Post
    Well that's 1 way to interpret it (you can play your own Borrower competing for slots with your Angler) but what I meant was if Borrower is popular for your opponent then it makes Angler a lot worse (when your delve creature gets bounced it can be hard to replay it again)
    Ah, ok, even so, I still think it is worth it to play Angler.

    Anecdotal evidence of Basic_Swamp taking 4th in the recent Showcase:
    Creature (16)
    2 Brazen Borrower
    4 Death's Shadow
    4 Delver of Secrets
    2 Gurmag Angler
    4 Street Wraith

    Sorcery (8)
    4 Ponder
    4 Thoughtseize

    Instant (18)
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Daze
    1 Drown in the Loch
    1 Fatal Push
    2 Force of Negation
    4 Force of Will
    2 Snuff Out

    Land (18)
    2 Flooded Strand
    1 Marsh Flats
    2 Polluted Delta
    4 Scalding Tarn
    2 Underground Sea
    4 Wasteland
    3 Watery Grave
    60 Cards

    Sideboard (15)
    2 Blue Elemental Blast
    2 Grafdigger's Cage
    4 Hymn to Tourach
    1 Null Rod
    2 Plague Engineer
    1 Ratchet Bomb
    1 Stubborn Denial
    2 Surgical Extraction
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    Re: [Primer] UB Death's Shadow

    Another good UB Shadow showing at the Showcase challenge online, 4th place:

    https://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=33638&iddeck=299069

    Ark4n placed well again at 17th place:

    https://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=33638&iddeck=299082

    And finally TrueHero at 26th in the same challenge:

    https://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=33638&iddeck=299091

    This makes me think that UB Shadow seems like a decent deck against the Breach upsurge. Breach was everywhere in this challenge.

    EDIT: All of those lists are similar, maybe even to a card (I didn't get that detailed with my observations.)

    1) Reanimate has been taken out for Brazen Borrower
    2) Snuff Out has replaced Dismember completely
    3) Drown in the Loch showed up in every list x1
    4) Hymn to Tourach x4 in the sideboard was consistent across all 3 of those lists.
    5) This setup can be attributed, at least in part, to the slightly different online metagame
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    Re: [Primer] UB Death's Shadow

    I'll be headed to a weekly tonight, taking the above well-performing lists but with a few minor changes.( -2 Snuff Out/+1 Fatal Push/+1 Dismember), budget manabase, and I am going to try Umezawa's Jitte in the board. Hopefully I can pull off a win or two this week!
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