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    Unplayable Chunderbucket Pile (but with chalice)

    So the idea is to get a turn 1 lock piece (chalice or thorn) protected by chancellor...then use rhonas or piper to either drop the chancellor into play or pick another creature with summoner's pact. Summoner's pact gets either part of the combo (rhonas or piper plus fatty) or utility dude (scavenging ooze/wreck sage) or ramunap excavator to wasteland or ghost quarter lock. Suggestions?


    4 chalice of the Void
    4 chancellor of the annex
    4 thorn of amethyst
    4 spellskite

    4 champion of rhonas
    4 elvish piper

    4 summoner's pact
    1 worldspine wurm
    1 terrastodon
    1 ruric thar
    1 progenitus
    1 wreck sage
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    2 Ramunap Excavator

    3 mox diamond
    4 Ancient Tomb
    2 City of Traitors
    4 wasteland
    1 Ghost Quarter
    3 forest
    1 swamp
    3 Bayou
    4 Verdant Catacombs

    SB:
    3 summoning trap
    4 engineered plague
    4 Leyline of the Void
    4 thought not seer
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Unplayable Chunderbucket Pile (but with chalice)

    This needs 4x Veteran Explorer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    This needs 4x Veteran Explorer.
    And a way to sac it.
    And a way to play it through cotv.
    So no, it doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cave View Post
    And a way to sac it.
    And a way to play it through cotv.
    So no, it doesn't.
    I guess you haven't been reading the Ban thread. I figured this was a clear and obvious joke, based purely on the title. I guess the joke's on me.

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    What's a card that props up utterly unplayable chunderbucket piles and makes the whole world miserable?

    HINT: It's not blue.
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    Veteran explorer, and i'd extend that to anyone who posts in that thread too.
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    I appreciated the veteran explorer reference for the record . I definitely feel like some people don't follow the B/R thread as closely as they should. Though I am planning on running this at our proxy event on the 30th so any actual suggestions anyone has would be appreciated too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Unplayable Chunderbucket Pile (but with chalice)

    Came for the name, stayed for the deck.

    Instead of the Summoner's Pact and so many piper effects, some number of Green Sun's Zenith and Natural Order?
    Green Sun will let you find your toolbox creatures early and your pipers late. Even if you Chalice on 1 right away, you can still get a Dryad Arbor if you overpay for GSZ, so the synergy isn't perfect, but not shut out like Veteran Explorer. Natural Order is pretty bombastic with so many green threats to deploy.

    My next thoughts went to haste, either from Concordant Crossroads or Thousand-Year Elixir, just so your pipers were live the same turn you played them. Might also mean you can plop out a monster and swing in right away.

    Then if your goal is gigantic creatures, garbage like Dueling Grounds or Silent Arbiter might offer some protection from getting hit back.

    Then if your splashing white, whole bunch of garbage like Eladamri's Call become open to suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    I guess you haven't been reading the Ban thread. I figured this was a clear and obvious joke, based purely on the title. I guess the joke's on me.
    I don't read that thread anymore.
    I personally find that 1000+ pages of the same senseless banter and rotten arguments between the "ban brainstorm", the "ban fetchlands" and the "legacy good as it is" parties are way more than needed.
    Being almost in my 30's, I'm generally disgusted at the easiness with which many young internet users compare people, things or events they perceive as negative to serious illness, but I admit that I recently had similar thoughts about that very thread.
    B/R thread is the sole reason i'm not that much active on this forum anymore and I think one of the main reasons why people are moving to deck-related discord servers. It's so ridiculous and pervasive it literally echoes through the whole forum. Like, in every new edition spoiler thread, when a good card is revealed, there's always gonna be a stupid person who comes up with the "this is gonna make xerox decks even stronger" post. 100% guaranteed.

    I'm sorry, i'm not that much of a joke person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cave View Post
    I'm sorry, i'm not that much of a joke person.
    ...why are you posting in here then?
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Unplayable Chunderbucket Pile (but with chalice)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cave View Post
    I don't read that thread anymore.
    I personally find that 1000+ pages of the same senseless banter and rotten arguments between the "ban brainstorm", the "ban fetchlands" and the "legacy good as it is" parties are way more than needed.
    Being almost in my 30's, I'm generally disgusted at the easiness with which many young internet users compare people, things or events they perceive as negative to serious illness, but I admit that I recently had similar thoughts about that very thread.
    B/R thread is the sole reason i'm not that much active on this forum anymore and I think one of the main reasons why people are moving to deck-related discord servers. It's so ridiculous and pervasive it literally echoes through the whole forum. Like, in every new edition spoiler thread, when a good card is revealed, there's always gonna be a stupid person who comes up with the "this is gonna make xerox decks even stronger" post. 100% guaranteed.

    I'm sorry, i'm not that much of a joke person.
    Wow, almost in your 30's eh? So old...dude, I turn 40 next year.

    Yes, there are some bad comments, but I prefer The Source over discord any day. If I want real-time discussion, nothing beats the LGS for me. I may be overly fortunate to have a thriving legacy scene with great discussion happening locally, but whatever. The Source is 2nd best, to me.

    Decks like this, where people are actively playing off-beat decks and strategies because they just love the game, these are what keep me playing Legacy.

    Specifically for the deck, how reasonable would it be to hard-cast a Chancellor of the Tangle? I always loved it in Hypergenesis and pre-game effects that super-charge Chalice and GSZ seem very good to me. Possibly too deep, but I like how explosive it could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    This needs 4x Veteran Explorer.
    I did consider splashing blue for arcane artisan.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    so this just bad sneak&breach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalous__ View Post
    so this just bad sneak&breach?
    It's very different to sneak and skill. The goal is to get a turn one lock piece or threat protected by a revealed chancellor. Then you run the suite of reusable one-sided show and tells to dump your fatties into play.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Unplayable Chunderbucket Pile (but with chalice)

    Once Upon a Time and Griselbrand seem good here.

    One of the biggest weakness of Chalice decks is variance due to lack of card draw/card selection. Since both your enablers and threats are creatures (unlike in EurekaTell), OUAT seems strong here. Griselbrand just because... cheating anything else out feels ike you're not cheating enough


    //Mana: 22
    4 Chrome Mox
    4 Ancient Tomb
    2 City of Traitors
    4 Misty Rainforest
    2 Prismatic Vista
    2 Tropical Island
    2 Snow-Covered Forest
    2 Snow-Covered Island

    //Fair Creatures: 12
    4 Griselbrand
    4 Chancellor of the Annex
    4 Chancellor of the Tangle

    //Elvish Pipers: 10
    4 Arcane Artisan
    4 Champion of Rhonas
    2 Eureka

    //Fair Permanents: 10
    4 Chalice of the Void
    4 Trinisphere
    2 Sylvan Library

    //Other Spells: 6
    3 Once Upon a Time
    3 Living Wish

    //Sideboard: 15
    3 Defense Grid
    2 Oko, Thief of Crowns
    1 Living Wish
    1 Collector Ouphe
    1 Scavenging Ooze
    1 Reclamation Sage
    1 Elvish Piper
    1 Glen Elendra Archmage
    1 Ashen Rider
    1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    1 Bojuka Bog
    1 Karakas

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    Ewlandon on twitch played this deck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLzc_xkor1g .
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Unplayable Chunderbucket Pile (but with chalice)

    Quote Originally Posted by kinda View Post
    Ewlandon on twitch played this deck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLzc_xkor1g .
    I agree with his commentary... I don't get the Jin-Gitaxias. Griselbrand seems amazing in this deck.

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