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    Re: War of the Spark

    The first batch of spoilers are out.

    Not really a fan of amass.

    I like this card, though:



    This should be able to generate some interesting shenanigans, including Parallax enchantments.



    This one is interesting with Painter. Choose a color they don't have and wipe their board. Two Painter with different colors would wipe out all permanents on both sides, but that would be more of a fringe play.

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    Re: War of the Spark



    For realsies this time!

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    Re: War of the Spark

    Bolas' citadel looks like a fun combo build around. It's nice that it's a win condition (maybe) and an engine.
    LED and infernal work really well with it, but I don't know if that would be better than ad naus, way more building around.

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    Re: War of the Spark

    Ad Nauseam doesn't care about lands, this one does. Alot more hoops to jump through.

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    Re: War of the Spark

    Ad naus doesn't cast the spells, or let you cast cantrips in the middle of it to set up the next cards.
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    Re: War of the Spark

    Ad Nauseam doesn't fold to artifact removal in response to casting a spell, though.

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    Re: War of the Spark

    Looks like the Planeswalkers get static abilities now, and mythic = 3 loyalty abilities, rare = 2, uncommon = 1

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    Re: War of the Spark

    Citadel, try number what at making Will work?
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    Citadel, try number what at making Will work?
    You mean necro?
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    Re: War of the Spark

    Flux Channeler and Pentad Prism seems pretty sweet. Toss in a bunch of cantrips and some Walking Ballista's and maybe there's something there.

    EDIT: Probably wants Lotus Petal, Mox Opal, Springleaf Drum, and Thoughtcast too? Baubles also seem pretty good...

    Maybe there's a better way (or more ways) to abuse the proliferate rather than just Walking Ballista?
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    So, Citadel + Rituals + Thopter/Sword? Is that what we're looking at here?

    Citadel vs. Ad Naus:

    Citadel
    +Runs over more than one turn
    +Generates BOTH mana and cards
    +Can act as a win-con on it's own
    +As a permanent, many more ways to cheat it into play

    -Can get stalled out by multiple lands
    -Costs an extra B
    -Dies to counterspells AND removal

    Ad Nauseum
    +Costs less
    +Doesn't get land flooded
    +Only vulnerable to countermagic

    -Doesn't generate mana
    -Can accidentally kill you
    -Only works the turn you cast it, can get hard countered by stuff like Chant/Silence

    That about sum it up? (not a combo player)


    EDIT: I feel like Ajani the Greathearted is getting shortchanged. That's going to be an absolute POWERHOUSE in any standard or Modern 'walker deck. Too slow for Legacy.

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    Re: War of the Spark

    Quote Originally Posted by merfolkotpt View Post
    You mean necro?
    Yea, sorry. Thought I should say Greed since it's older.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgan_coke View Post
    So, Citadel + Rituals + Thopter/Sword? Is that what we're looking at here?
    Maybe you could play flux channeler in that deck too. Pentad prism and ballista seem like things a thopter/sword deck is interested in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanni View Post
    Maybe there's a better way (or more ways) to abuse the proliferate rather than just Walking Ballista?
    Aside from Walkers, there's also Parallax Tide because fuck lands in particular. Throw in Thrummingbird and you might reach a critical mass of easy to access Proliferate.

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    New Jace Walker.

    1UUUU Rare. Default/always on text is Lab Maniac.
    4 loyalty
    +1 mill 2 (target player) and draw a card
    -8 draw 7 then win if library empty - which is kinda redundant with his main text but corner case works if you had exactly 7 left.

    Dunno if he's better in Lab Maniac decks than Lab or not, extra 4 copies that aren't critters if you need it.

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    Domri, Anarch of Bolas
    1RG
    Creatures you control get +1/+0.
    +1: Add R or G. Creature spells you cast this turn can't be countered.
    -2: Target creature you control fights target creature you don't control.

    This one caught my eye as the most blatantly playable of the spoiled walkers, at least in Standard.

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    Re: War of the Spark

    Quote Originally Posted by Glass House View Post
    Domri, Anarch of Bolas
    1RG
    Creatures you control get +1/+0.
    +1: Add R or G. Creature spells you cast this turn can't be countered.
    -2: Target creature you control fights target creature you don't control.

    This one caught my eye as the most blatantly playable of the spoiled walkers, at least in Standard.
    I was about to post this one as well. Seem pretty good overall.

    Rest of the new spoilers

    Edit: Gideon doesn't seem too shabby, either, although vulnerable.

    Gideon Blackblade (1) WW

    As long as its your turn, ~ is a 4/4 human soldier with industructible that's still a planeswalker. Prevent any damage that would be dealt to ~ during your turn.

    +1 Up to one other target creature you control gains your choice of Vigilance, Lifelink or indestructible until end of turn,

    -6 Exile target nonland permanent.

    (4)

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    New Teferi seems absolutely nuts and Bolas' -8 is literally GG about 90%of the time.

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    Re: War of the Spark

    Quote Originally Posted by Kage View Post
    New Teferi seems absolutely nuts and Bolas' -8 is literally GG about 90%of the time.
    Eureka + God Bolas + Doubling Season for the instant nuke?

    Edit: Would that work, rules-wise? Given that both Season and God Bolas enter the battlefield at the same time?

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    New Gideon is up there with the best 3 mana creatures ever printed. Karn is an ungodly House, nay Skyscraper in Vintage. One sided Null Rod that casts Artifact Wish and animates your stuff to attack? He might get restricted after awhile.

    EDIT: honest question, is Teferi enough to bring back NO-Stick? Or has the format just moved beyond that? Could definitely see it in Modern if Chant gets a reprint there in Horizons (I'm expecting all the good stuff from IPA/OTJ/ONS to be the bulk of Horizons).

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