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Alright, I have everybody, so it's final round time!
DECKS FOR THE FINAL ROUND OF SEASON 8: Peasant Continued Bannathon
1. Asthereal (TO): Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Gathan Raiders, Basking Rootwalla
2. jhhdk: Forest, Golgari Rot Farm, Broken Fall, Ochran Assassin
3. dte: Rugged highlands, Vitality charm, Lightning Axe, Serene remembrance
4. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Crystal Vein, Geomancer's Gambit, Kris Mage
5. GoblinSmashmaster: Geothermal Crevice, Forest, Dark Deal, Basking Rootwalla
6. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Pharika’s Chosen, Cauldron Familiar, Witch’s Oven
7. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Ruthless Ripper, Festering Mummy
8. silkster: Forest, Mountain, Orcish Lumberjack, Acidic Slime
9. FTW: Island, Zulaport Duelist, Force Spike, Dismember
10. Tylert: Aether vial, Island, Faceless butcher, Qasali pridemage
11. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Branded Brawlers
12. maxx!: Treetop Village, Selesnya Sanctuary, Silhana Ledgewalker, Armadillo Cloak
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Ohh fuck. Was sure treetop village was banned now. Would've taken that over forest if I had known I could.
Treetop Village is uncommon, unlike Forest.
Huh, I played turn 1 control because I expected more turn 2 decks like
-Channel (using basic Forest)
-Infect
-Pillage/other LD
I was debating playing a storage land ramp deck or loop deck like Serene Rememberance, but they lost too hard to the DTB turn 2 decks. Channel would have cleaned up here.
I'll have to do my matchups later.
Off the top it looks like I 6-0 jhhdk, Wrath, Gobbo, Reep, alpha and silk and 3-3 Vial
Lose to both Treetops
At worst draw dte and H, might have a winning line.
43-ish points?
Asthereal's scores for the las round:
1. Asthereal (TO): Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Gathan Raiders, Basking Rootwalla
That's me, uninspiredly copying my deck from last round.
2. jhhdk: Forest, Golgari Rot Farm, Broken Fall, Ochran Assassin
Your deck is really good against my normal guys, but the Village doesn't have to block your guy. Still, if you keep your guy back, I can't attack, so two draws. 2-2
3. dte: Rugged highlands, Vitality charm, Lightning Axe, Serene remembrance
Math needed! See below. EDIT: Nope, I lose both. Tight game OTP though. 0-6
4. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Crystal Vein, Geomancer's Gambit, Kris Mage
OTP I can make Walla for the draw. OTD you destroy my Village before I get to do anything. 1-4
5. GoblinSmashmaster: Geothermal Crevice, Forest, Dark Deal, Basking Rootwalla
Walla staredown is drawish. Nice combo deck though, after 23 rounds of bannathon. 2-2
6. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Pharika’s Chosen, Cauldron Familiar, Witch’s Oven
You can block the Village with the deathtoucher, but then I can attack with a pumped Walla and a 5/5 Raider into one recurring chumper. You can chip at my life total once per turn that way, but I'll do 2 damage (well, 3, but you gain 1 as well). I win that race, I think. 6-0
7. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Ruthless Ripper, Festering Mummy
Deck bad against Encroach. 0-6
8. silkster: Forest, Mountain, Orcish Lumberjack, Acidic Slime
Deck also bad against T2 Slime, as Walla is only 1/1. 0-6
9. FTW: Island, Zulaport Duelist, Force Spike, Dismember
You can Spike my Raiders and Dismember my Village, but a pumped Walla still beats the Duelist. 6-0
10. Tylert: Aether vial, Island, Faceless butcher, Qasali pridemage
Butcher eats Raiders, Raiders can attack as a 3/4 with exalted, but I can double block. Math below. 4-1
11. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Branded Brawlers
My team is quite big, even if you use Devil to kill my Walla. 6-0
12. maxx!: Treetop Village, Selesnya Sanctuary, Silhana Ledgewalker, Armadillo Cloak
A Cloacked Ledgewalker races my 5/5. 0-6
Total: 27 points
Against dte, OTP:
A: Village
d: Highland, d=21
A: Farm, bounce Village
d: Wait
A: Village
d: still wait
A: Make Raiders, discard Walla to make it 5/5, EOT Axe my Raiders, discarding Charm
d: Remembrance, shuffle back all. Library is now T>B Remembrance, Charm, Axe
A: Make Village a guy, attack for 4, d=17
d: Draw Remembrance
A: Attack for 4, d=13
d: Draw Charm
EDIT A: Attack with Village only, d=10 (otherwise you can cast Charm for a 1/1 and trade with Walla)
d: Draw Axe
A: Attack with Village, Axe Village, discarding Charm
d: Remembrance, shuffle back all. Library is now T>B Remembrance, Charm, Axe.
A: Attack with pumped Walla, d=7
d: Draw Remembrance
A: Attack with pumped Walla, d=4
d: Draw Charm
A: Attack with pumped Walla, d=1
d: Draw Axe, kill the Walla and win.
Against dte OTD - this time you can go for the early Charm:
d: Highland, d=21
A: Village
d: Charm, make 1/1
A: Farm, bounce Village
d: Remembrance, shuffle back both. Library is now T>B Remembrance, Charm
A: Village
d: Draw Remembrance
A: Make Raiders, discard Walla to make it 5/5
d: Draw Charm, Axe the Raiders, discarding Charm. Keep 1/1 back for defence against Walla
A: Attack with just Village, d=18
d: Remembrance, shuffle back all. Library is now T>B Remembrance, Charm, Axe.
A: Attack with just Village, d=15
d: Draw Remembrance
A: Attack with just Village, d=12
d: Draw Charm
A: Attack with just Village, d=9
d: Draw Axe
A: Attack with just Village, Axe Vilage, discarding Charm
d: Remembrance, shuffle back all. Library is now T>B Remembrance, Charm, Axe.
A: Attack with pumped Walla, d=6
d: Draw Remembrance
A: Attack with pumped Walla, d=3
d: Draw Charm
A: Attack with pumped Walla, chump with 1/1
d: Draw Axe, Axe the Walla, discarding Charm. Win from here.
0-6
Against Tylert, OTD:
T: Island, Vial
A: Village
T: V=1
A: Farm, bounce Village
T: V=2, make Pridemage
A: Village
T: V=3, attack for 3, A=17
A: Make Raiders, discard Walla to make it 5/5
T: V=4, make Butcher, eat the Raiders, attack for 3, A=14
A: We can both attack for 3 per turn or 4 per turn, but I'm lower on life, so I wait.
T: If you attack, I can double block and kill the Butcher, or just block the Pridemage with a pumped Walla. So you also wait, and nobody does anything anymore for the draw.
Against Tylert, OTP:
A: Village
T: Island, Vial
A: Farm, bounce Village
T: V=1
A: Village
T: V=2, make Pridemage
A: Make Raiders, discard Walla to make it 5/5
T: V=3
A: Attack with pumped Walla and Raiders, T=12
T: V=4, make Butcher, eat the Raiders.
A: Now we have the same situation as OTD, but now I have more life than you, so I can attack with a 3/3 and win the race.
So that's 4-1 for me.
Last edited by Asthereal; 12-23-2020 at 06:31 PM.
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Ignore my last post. I forgot why I didn't take TV, thought it was because it got banned, but it was because I already had an uncommon.
4. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Crystal Vein, Geomancer's Gambit, Kris Mage
1. Asthereal (TO): Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Gathan Raiders, Basking Rootwalla WD
2. jhhdk: Forest, Golgari Rot Farm, Broken Fall, Ochran Assassin WW
3. dte: Rugged highlands, Vitality charm, Lightning Axe, Serene remembrance WD
5. GoblinSmashmaster: Geothermal Crevice, Forest, Dark Deal, Basking Rootwalla DD
6. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Pharika’s Chosen, Cauldron Familiar, Witch’s Oven DL
7. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Ruthless Ripper, Festering Mummy DD
8. silkster: Forest, Mountain, Orcish Lumberjack, Acidic Slime WL
9. FTW: Island, Zulaport Duelist, Force Spike, Dismember LL
10. Tylert: Aether vial, Island, Faceless butcher, Qasali pridemage LL
11. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Branded Brawlers LL
12. maxx!: Treetop Village, Selesnya Sanctuary, Silhana Ledgewalker, Armadillo Cloak WW
7w7d = 28 points
silkster had the better LD deck, but it could have been worse for me.
Last edited by Wrath of Pie; 12-23-2020 at 06:59 PM.
Pretty sure this is correct, but feel free to double check
1. Asthereal (TO): Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Gathan Raiders, Basking Rootwalla DD
2. jhhdk: Forest, Golgari Rot Farm, Broken Fall, Ochran Assassin <-- ME
3. dte: Rugged highlands, Vitality charm, Lightning Axe, Serene remembrance LL, Nice recursion
4. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Crystal Vein, Geomancer's Gambit, Kris Mage LL, LD always gets me
5. GoblinSmashmaster: Geothermal Crevice, Forest, Dark Deal, Basking Rootwalla DL, i think I get toresolve my threat OTP
6. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Pharika’s Chosen, Cauldron Familiar, Witch’s Oven DD
7. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Ruthless Ripper, Festering Mummy LL, you get my land b4 i can do anything
8. silkster: Forest, Mountain, Orcish Lumberjack, Acidic Slime LL
9. FTW: Island, Zulaport Duelist, Force Spike, Dismember LL
10. Tylert: Aether vial, Island, Faceless butcher, Qasali pridemage LL
11. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Branded Brawlers WW
12. maxx!: Treetop Village, Selesnya Sanctuary, Silhana Ledgewalker, Armadillo Cloak DD
My deck from last round would probably have done better :-(
1. Asthereal (TO): Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Gathan Raiders, Basking Rootwalla
6-0. Tentative, see maths below: I think I win by casting the second charm early.
6
2. jhhdk: Forest, Golgari Rot Farm, Broken Fall, Ochran Assassin
6-0. axe the assassin in response to broken fall.
12
3. dte: Rugged highlands, Vitality charm, Lightning Axe, Serene remembrance
Me. Not the best idea I had.
4. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Crystal Vein, Geomancer's Gambit, Kris Mage
1-4 I guess.
13
5. GoblinSmashmaster: Geothermal Crevice, Forest, Dark Deal, Basking Rootwalla
1-4 idem.
14
6. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Pharika’s Chosen, Cauldron Familiar, Witch’s Oven
0-6 I think. Looks like looong maths. I had a deck like that, but with Mortician Beetle instead of pharika's chosen.
14
7. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Ruthless Ripper, Festering Mummy
3-3 against Encroach.deck
17
8. silkster: Forest, Mountain, Orcish Lumberjack, Acidic Slime
3-3 against lumberjack.deck.
20
9. FTW: Island, Zulaport Duelist, Force Spike, Dismember
2-2.
22
10. Tylert: Aether vial, Island, Faceless butcher, Qasali pridemage
6-0. Kill the two creatures and win from there.
28
11. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Branded Brawlers
6-0. Kill the Waif, then wait for making a token at the end of one turn.
34
12. maxx!: Treetop Village, Selesnya Sanctuary, Silhana Ledgewalker, Armadillo Cloak
0-6. I cannot deal with an enchanted Ledgewalker.
34
Maths vs Asthereal:
From here I can win by playing charm:Originally Posted by Asthereal
d: Draw Charm
A: Attack for 4, d play charm, chump walla, d=10
d: draw axe, play SR (top SR, bottom charm)
A: attack, d=7
d: draw SR
A: attack, d=4
d: draw axe --> Win with one turn buffer.
I thought most of the LD was gone... bad calculation!
And I guess early congratulations to Silkster for the season!
I really like the card orcish lumberjack. I would have been afraid of relying so much on a 1/1 due to metagaming against poison.deck
6. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Pharika’s Chosen, Cauldron Familiar, Witch’s Oven
Me jamming my favourite terrible deck because its my last chance.
1. Asthereal (TO): Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Gathan Raiders, Basking Rootwalla
I think you are right OTD, but I am able to get to 2x your lifetotal OTP. WL. 3-3 math below.
2. jhhdk: Forest, Golgari Rot Farm, Broken Fall, Ochran Assassin
Disagreement here. I can just chump your ochran forever until I drain you out. WW 6-0.
3. dte: Rugged highlands, Vitality charm, Lightning Axe, Serene remembrance
Axe is pretty useless here. I think a token every other turn does outrace me though. 0-6
4. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Crystal Vein, Geomancer's Gambit, Kris Mage
You can only ping my deathtoucher if you don't LD me. My combo doesn't care about the second ping. WD 4-1.
5. GoblinSmashmaster: Geothermal Crevice, Forest, Dark Deal, Basking Rootwalla
If you let me assemble my combo you lose; so you lose when I am OTP. OTD, you must dark deal t2. My 1/1 has the advantage in the race, so we draw. WD 4-1.
7. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Ruthless Ripper, Festering Mummy
You can't interact with my combo. WW 6-0.
8. silkster: Forest, Mountain, Orcish Lumberjack, Acidic Slime
OTP everything trades. DL. 1-4
9. FTW: Island, Zulaport Duelist, Force Spike, Dismember
You lose if you can't force spike the oven. ( I can use the oven to turn the deathtoucher into a cat). OTD I can't attack with the deathtoucher without getting blown out by the etb, but if you waste the etb you would lose the race. So no one does anything. WD 4-1.
10. Tylert: Aether vial, Island, Faceless butcher, Qasali pridemage
I thought this deck would come back. You have to answer my combo with pridemage, which means I don't have to commit the snake until you waste the butcher's etb. DD 2-2.
11. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Branded Brawlers. If you don't have evasion, you need two attackers, both with power >2 to race me. I just keep an untapped land and you can't beat the combo. WW 6-0
12. maxx!: Treetop Village, Selesnya Sanctuary, Silhana Ledgewalker, Armadillo Cloak
3 damage + 3 life is better than 3 damage + 1 life. LL 0-6.
10w 6D 36/66
vs Asthereal OTP
Assuming you can't win without morphing raiders.
21/19 21/19
21/18 21/18
22/15 22/15
23/12 23/12 cast a morph, morph
23/12 no attacks 24/11 attack with village and unpumped rootwalla (if you lose raiders you can't pump rootwalla), trade with village chump rootwalla return EOT.
afterwards I hit for 1 and you for 2. 11<24/2=W. OTD you still win.
Ah so I can't attack with the Walla there. So instead I have to go:
A7: Attack with Village only, d=10
d: Draw Axe
A: Attack with Village, Axe Village, discarding Charm
d: Remembrance, shuffle back all. Library is now T>B Remembrance, Charm, Axe.
A: Attack with pumped Walla, d=7
d: Draw Remembrance
A: Attack with pumped Walla, d=4
d: Draw Charm
A: Attack with pumped Walla, d=1
d: Draw Axe, kill the Walla and win.
That's close, but you're right, you get both wins.
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9. FTW: Island, Zulaport Duelist, Force Spike, Dismember
Interesting. I didn't know Cauldron Familiar was now a common. Must be recent.
1. Asthereal (TO): My best line is to counter the morph, and then I can only Dismember one of the 2 3/3s. LL 0-6
2. jhhdk: Force Spike on turn 3 Assassin wins it. WW 6-0
3. dte: I can always Force Spike Serene Rememberance, so you only get one use of your spells. If you make an Insect, I Dismember it and then win (Lightning Axe discarding Serene loses to Force Spike). But if you do nothing, you can Lightning Axe my 1/1 discarding Charm and I have to let it resolve. DD 2-2
4. Wrath of Pie: Force Spike answers Gambit. Dismember answers Mage. WW 6-0
5. GoblinSmashmaster: Force Spike answers Dark Deal. Dismember answers Rootwalla. WW 6-0
6. Reeplcheep: I thought Dismember on Chosen (or on the returned Familiar) could interrupt the combo somewhere, but it looks like it can't because the sacrifice is a cost and you can always return familiar when Cauldron untaps again for another use, without passing priority. In that case OTP I can Force Spike the Oven, Dismember a creature, and draw the other by threat of ambush. OTD I can't stop the combo. DL 1-4
7. alphastryk: Encroach is dead. I counter Mummy, Dismember Ripper, and win with Zulaport. OTD if you play Mummy first, I can Dismember it before my guy is exposed and then counter the other. WW 6-0
8. silkster: Dismember on Lumberjack wins it. WW 6-0
10. Tylert: OTP I Force Spike the Vial. OTD Vial comes down first. If you play Pridemage at 2 counters and start racing, I'm forced to Dismember it, then Butcher wins. WL 3-3
11. H: Your Branded Brawlers 2/2 wall tech pays off against my 1/1! I can't win here. I can answer the Brawlers and Waif, then do nothing to leave Forge Devil uncastable. I could also Dismember the Waif, play my guy, and Force the Devil, but Branded Brawlers holds him from attacking. DD 2-2
12. maxx!: If you play Ledgewalker on turn 4 (Village untapped) I can't counter it, but I could counter the cloak. My 1/1 comes down earlier on turn 1, but if you activate Village I'm forced to lose 4 life to Dismember it, which costs me 4 turns and loses the race. LL 0-6
38 points (11 wins, 5 draws)
All the supplemental products make this confusing. It was a common in jumpstart which, as a non-draftable set, means very little...
How do you win on the play?
W - Mountain, Mage
G - Crevice
W - Gambit kills Crevice
G - Forest, Rootwalla
Mage has no cards left to ping so it draws with 1/1 Rootwalla
W - Mountain, Mage
G - Crevice
W - Attack with Mage or do nothing, holding back cards to ping
G - Forest, Rootwalla with Crevice untapped
Now if you try to ping, he cracks Crevice to make it 3/3. Attacking into it is even worse.
If you destroy Crevice first, you still can't ping it.
Looks like the 1/1s just draw both times.
DD 2-2
Your threat comes down turn 3. Dark Deal happens turn 2, so you never get out fast enough.
LL
I don't see how you can break his combo. He can chump block with Cauldron Familiar, then sacrifice before damage to make a food, so you can never deal combat damage and his combo slowly drains you out.
LL
His Ledgewalker has evasion, so you can't block it, and if it attacks every turn then you can't force it to block and trade.
Both Ledgewalker and Assassin land on turn 3. When you go first, that means you can always force the Ledgewalker to block and then kill it to draw. When maxx goes first, Ledgewalker can dodge the forced block and then kills you with the enchanted cloak.
DL?
Sorry to correct so many results. Nice deck. Your other deck probably would have done better here. Protection and big bodies are very strong.
That explains it. I don't play Standard or just open sealed product, so my knowledge of recent sets is entirely from drafting. I have never even seen Jumpstart before.
Oh right, just play the Forest last. That would force the draws.
XmasSmashmaster Results for Round "Where are Eldrazis??"
1. Asthereal (TO): Treetop Village, Golgari Rot Farm, Gathan Raiders, Basking Rootwalla
Rootwalla stare 2-2
2. jhhdk: Forest, Golgari Rot Farm, Broken Fall, Ochran Assassin
Dark Deal 6-0
3. dte: Rugged highlands, Vitality charm, Lightning Axe, Serene remembrance
Dark Deal, then insect stare 4-1
4. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Crystal Vein, Geomancer's Gambit, Kris Mage
1/1 stare 2-2
5. GoblinSmashmaster: Geothermal Crevice, Forest, Dark Deal, Basking Rootwalla
That's me!
6. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Pharika’s Chosen, Cauldron Familiar, Witch’s Oven
Combo :( 1-4
7. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Ruthless Ripper, Festering Mummy
1/1 stare, then Encroach 1-4
8. silkster: Forest, Mountain, Orcish Lumberjack, Acidic Slime
1/1 stare, then Slime 1-4
9. FTW: Island, Zulaport Duelist, Force Spike, Dismember
Force Spike 0-6
10. Tylert: Aether vial, Island, Faceless butcher, Qasali pridemage
Dark Deal 6-0
11. H: Mountain, Reckless Waif, Forge Devil, Branded Brawlers
Waif 0-6
12. maxx!: Treetop Village, Selesnya Sanctuary, Silhana Ledgewalker, Armadillo Cloak
Dark Deal 6-0
Total: 29 points
I'm not a huge fan of jumpstart, but the game they were trying to crib off of (Smash Up) is really good.
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