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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    A quick look at my games amounts to:

    1. Asthereal, that's me, more combo because I can: Thalakos Lowlands, Simian Spirit Guide, Flash, Worldspine Wurm
    2. Whoshim: Shoal foils my plan. And you have a threat to kill me. 0-6
    3. Tylert: I am quite fast. I think I should be able to race this quite comfortably. 6-0
    4. H: OTP I combo, OTD you Sphere me. 3-3
    5. FTW: OTP I combo, OTD you Sphere me. 3-3
    6. Wrath of Pie: OTP I combo, OTD you Umask me. 3-3
    7. GoblinSmashmaster: Spider-Man is surprised to see Spider-Man. 2-2
    8. apple713: I think this deck actually races me, even on the play. 0-6

    Also: #banthalakoslowlands

    Total: 17 points
    I dont think i win this because if I drop below 30 life Serra gets small. So I cant attack and you because you counter attack and put me below 30. So I cant attack and you cant attack into my defender.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    Not seeing how apple wins vs. the Wurm hands, Ascendant is only giant above 30 life which the Wurms can get him under fast enough to make Ascendant normal again.
    Hmm let's do some combat math.

    Asthereal vs Apple

    T1 Apple - Combo. 35 life. 6/6 Ascendant.
    Asth - Combo. 3 5/5 tramples.

    T2 Apple - Attack for 6. (Life totals 41 / 14)
    Asth - Attack for 15. (Life totals 26 / 14 ). Serra loses the buff.

    After that it's a fast loss for Apple whether he attacks or chumps.

    What if instead Apple chooses not to attack?

    T1 Apple - Combo. 35 life. 6/6 Ascendant.
    Asth - Combo. 3 5/5 tramples.

    T2 Apple - Hold Serra on defense. (Life totals 35 / 20)
    Asth - Attack for 15. Serra blocks one Wurm. Wurm dies. Apple takes 10 and gains 6. (Life totals 31 / 20)

    T3 Apple - Hold Serra on defense. (Life totals 31 / 20)
    Asth - Attack for 10. Serra blocks one Wurm. Wurm dies. Apple takes 5 and gains 6, staying above 30. (Life totals 32 / 20). Now Serra easily beats 1 Wurm and Apple wins.

    Therefore Asthereal shouldn't attack either. If Apple attacks, he loses. If Asthereal attacks, he loses. They stare at each other and draw. DD 2-2.

    It's pretty close. Asthereal can almost get Apple below 30 just by attackin into the bigger defender. If the attack got him below 30, Serra would shrink to 1/1 and die from the damage on it, letting any remaining Wurm tokens easily win. But Apple can just barely stay above 30 so that doesn't work. If lifelink was still a triggered ability, Serra would shrink in between and die.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Ouch, this is gonna be a bad round for me then.

    1.DD
    2.LL
    3.LL
    4.WL
    5.WL
    6.LL
    7.DD

    Total points ... 10 omg thats painful. Started thinking of a deck at 1 am ... not a good idea.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by apple713 View Post
    Ouch, this is gonna be a bad round for me then.
    6.LL

    Total points ... 10 omg thats painful.
    You should beat Wrath OTP. Play Shoal first, then Serra comes down as a 6/6 and doesn't die to Contagion. OTD he Unmasks you though.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    Not seeing how apple wins vs. the Wurm hands, Ascendant is only giant above 30 life which the Wurms can get him under fast enough to make Ascendant normal again.
    This is a good point.

    If he attacks, I attack as well and get him below 30, which makes his ascendant somewhat smaller.
    If I attack, he blocks one wurm and kills it, lifelink getting him to 41 and two wurms beating him to 31, so that doesn't help me.
    No one attacks, it's two draws.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Preliminary scores for round 7.

    Rank. Player: Score - seasos points:
    1. Whoshim: 26 - 3,7
    2. Tylert: 24 - 3,4
    2. Wrath of Pie: 24 - 3,4
    4. FTW: 23 - 3,3
    5. Asthereal (TO): 19 - 2,7
    5. GoblinSmashmaster: 19 - 2,7
    7. apple713: 13 - 1,9
    8. H: 12 - 1,7

    Which would lead to these bannings:
    Assassin's trophy
    Chronatog
    Contagion
    Disrupting Shoal
    Durkwood Baloth
    Elixir of immortality
    Forest
    Ghost Quarter
    Golgari Rot Farm
    Hangarback Walker
    Phantasmal Bear
    Saprazzan Skerry
    Sol Ring
    Sphere of Resistance
    Treetop Village
    Unmask

    So yeah, #banthalakoslowlands failed. For now.
    However, #banchronatog has succeeded gloriously.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Round 8 of 4CB Season 2, the Vintage Bannathon, has started!

    I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 8, so you can start sending me your decks.
    You will find standings for round 7 and new bannings based on results from round 7 in the Google Spreadsheet, or in the post above.

    DEADLINE FOR ROUND 8: WEDNESDAY the 5th of June, at 6:00AM Central European Time.
    (That's my time. Just send me the deck Tuesday evening latest, you'll be fine.)

    PLEASE NOTE:
    - The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
    Please send your deck as follows: Goblin Guide, Mogg Fanatic, Pithing Needle, Cavern of Souls (so with card tags around each card, and not above eachother), with your Username and 4CB S02R08 in the topic. Most of you already do this. Thanks a lot, this really saves me the time and hassle of copying and pasting text and tags!
    - The banned list (you'll find it in the second post and in the Google Spreadsheet). So keep an eye on what you send in.

    After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
    If you have any questions, please read the first two posts of this thread first. If you can't find the answer there, drop a message here. We'll answer a.s.a.p.

    Also, the Google Spreadsheet has been updated: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Happy deck designing everybody!

    Fun facts:
    - After apple713's weakest round yet, FTW is now only 2 season points behind first place, spicing things up a tad.
    - In just 7 rounds of bannathon, we have managed to get 90 cards banned. With 5 more rounds to go, where will this end?
    - My #banthalakoslowlads may have failed, but I've got a new rediculously fringe card to #ban for round 8.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    However, #banchronatog has succeeded gloriously.
    Curses, you have foiled my deck of
    Island, Simian Spirit Guide, Chronatog, Pact of Negation

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    Curses, you have foiled my deck of
    Island, Simian Spirit Guide, Chronatog, Pact of Negation
    Island was banned a long time ago, that has been foiled for a while.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    Island was banned a long time ago, that has been foiled for a while.
    Re-enter #banthalakoslowlands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    Same thing here.... i really thought ghost quarter was banned :(
    Yet we ended up #1 and #2.

    I tried to get Mountain banned last week and failed. I'm glad I was able to get Chronatog banned this week.

    I will try to get a deck submitted today, because I will be traveling this coming week.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Round 7:

    1. Asthereal: Can't win this 0-6 --> 0
    2. Whoshim: What's the combo with chronatog?? was it just having a 2 mana spell to counter flash? 6-0 --> 6
    3. Me.
    4. H: I will have 3 mana to play trophy. 6-0 --> 12
    5. FTW: Ghost quarter FTW. 0-6 --> 12
    6. Wrath of Pie: If you kill treetop, i recur it with elixir, if you take elixir with unmask, I kill baloth with trophy and kill you with treetop. 6-0 --> 18
    7. GoblinSmashmaster: Flash wurm again... 0-6 --> 18
    8. Apple713: Ascendant is not fast enough to kill me OTP and OTD. 6-0 --> 24

    Total 24.

    Managed to finish second without having banned the card i feared the most on previous round. incredible.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    What's the combo with chronatog?? was it just having a 2 mana spell to counter flash?
    Chronatog is a CMC2 creature that can become 4/5 when needed. That's pretty good.
    As a clock, if you can keep skipping turns, it's a 4 damage per 2 turns clock, so it resembles 2 power.

    It's an interesting option. One that I had never considered.
    Decks are getting more and more creative as we get deeper into the bannathon.
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    The clock was not the main consideration as much as the defense. First, I needed a 2 cmc thread that was blue (for countering and for casting). There are not a lot of great blue creatures for that. A lot of them amounted to a 2 power threat with some sort of evasion. I figured that being able to pump for four would let me draw some matches if someone had an x/3 x/4 threat.

    I got my deck in for this next round, and I think it is pretty fun.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    About two days until the deadline, and we're at 3 entries so far. Interesting ones, I must say.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    I'll wait until tomorrow night before submitting my aether vial deck :)

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    I'll wait until tomorrow night before submitting my aether vial deck :)
    It's still fully legal? Wow.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    The deadline has passed, but I'm still missing decks from two regulars, and since I'm a bit busy this morning, I can give you guys 5 hours extra to cough something up.

    EDIT: And that's number 7 sent in. Last one! apple713? Send me something. Recycle a deck if you have to.
    Last edited by Asthereal; 06-05-2019 at 03:45 AM.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    The deadline has passed, but I'm still missing decks from two regulars, and since I'm a bit busy this morning, I can give you guys 5 hours extra to cough something up.

    EDIT: And that's number 7 sent in. Last one! apple713? Send me something. Recycle a deck if you have to.
    K, i sent in my list. Sorry for the late entry, ive been sick since friday and it slipped my mind. Thanks for waiting.

    Ftw has a really good chance to pass me since i gave 0 thought to this round.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    DECKS FOR ROUND 8 OF THE VINTAGE BANNATHON

    1. Asthereal: Mishra's Factory, Wasteland, Soldevi Sentry, Ratchet Bomb
    2. Wrath of Pie: Blackcleave Cliffs, Keldon Halberdier, Stromkirk Noble, Inquisition of Kozilek
    3. Whoshim: Sandstone Needle, Genesis Chamber, Norin the Wary, Norin the Wary
    4. H: Mountain, Swamp, Ashling the Pilgrim, Angrath's Rampage
    5. GoblinSmashmaster: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Wasteland, Mox Diamond, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    6. Tylert: Chancellor of the Tangle, Aether Vial, Myr Superion, Deputy of Detention
    7. FTW: Snow-Covered Swamp, Inquisition of Kozilek, Fatal Push, Cruel Sadist
    8. apple713: Thalakos Lowlands, Simian Spirit Guide, Flash, Worldspine Wurm

    Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
    I'll update the Google Spreadsheet for the season, so you can enter your scores there as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Note for the Bannathon:
    With 8 participants again, the top 4 scoring decks for this round will be banned for next rounds.
    So if you want to start brewing for round 9 already, keep that in mind.
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