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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Do we miss a lot of results to start the next round?

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Sooo... That's a weird time. The Dutch govenment just imposed an evening curfew, and there's tons of protest and rioting.
    Today, idiots decided to destroy the train station I needed to travel through, stranding me in the middle of the country.
    I am now a guest at a friend's place and posting from there.

    Anyway, let's have a look how well my own deck did. Too well, I'm guessing.

    1. Asthereal (TO): Grove of the Burnwillows, Mountain, Punishing Fire, Volcanic Dragon
    That's me. I had no inspiration whatsoever, so I just made this 3CB deck that should be good against X/3 guys.
    2. Wrath of Pie: Timberline Ridge, Helix Pinnacle, Mugging, Mugging
    I'm too good and win this easily. 0-6
    3. Reeplcheep: Pine Barrens, Deathmark, Deathmark, Helix Pinnacle
    Still I'm too good and win this easily. 0-6
    4. FTW: Veldt, Helix Pinnacle, Traproot Kami, Green Scarab
    More terribleness for me to destroy. 0-6
    5. dte: Wirewood Symbiote, Ketria Triome, Saprazzan Legate, Saprazzan Legate
    Oh no! I have a mountain. Now you can cast 1/3 flyers and murder me! 6-0
    6. jhhdk: Secluded Steppe, Secluded Steppe, Circle of protection: Green, Mesa Pegasus
    CoP: Green, nice tech! Pegasus dies and Fire burns you. 0-6
    7. H: Swamp, Reaver Drone, Deathmark, Deathmark
    That creature is actually quite good. Still my deck is much better. 0-6
    8. alphastryk: Subterranean Hangar, Glistening Oil, Diamond Kaleidoscope, Helix Pinnacle
    Bad rares are bad and die to my Fire! 0-6
    9. Tylert: Forest, Sulfur vent, Budoka gardener, Jade mage
    Fire eats your guys and then you. 0-6
    10. GoblinSmashmaster: Snow-Covered Forest, Snow-Covered Mountain, Bear Cub, Ayula, Queen Among Bears
    Edit: luckily, your bear never lives long enough to get the trigger and make the 4/4 bear, so phew, Fire still burns your team and then you. 0-6
    11. Serguei: Subterranean Hangar, Perish, Mental agony, Acolyte of Xathrid
    Fire eats your wincon, discard makes me lose the Dragon but I couldn't cast that anyway. Fire burns you. 0-6
    12. maxx!: Karplusan Forest, Molten Slagheap, Elvish Archers, Dead Ringers
    Fire eats your guy and then you. 0-6

    Total: 6 points. That's crap. Oh well.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    Do we miss a lot of results to start the next round?
    Nope. It's been a bit of a mess on my end. Build your deck, and I'll open the round soon enough.
    All I need to do is build my own deck in order to open the round. I hope to do that tonight.

    Thankfully, we don't need to finish this round in order to start the next one.
    There are no bannings from last round to influence the next, and the plan for next round is public already.

    I haven't had time to build the new spreadsheet and collect results for round 1 yet, but I'll do that before the deadline for round 2.


    EDIT: Except for the fact that we need to do an emergency banning.
    I completely overlooked the card Approach of the Second Sun, which is of course stupid.
    Apologies for the oversight. I'll add it to the bannings for next round, because that card is obviously not fun.
    We can beat it many ways, but it's just not a fun things to have in the meta. I'm sure you guys can live with this.



    EDIT2: I would like to suggest we also ban Barren Glory, which I thought we had already banned, but apparently not.
    I'll give you guys a bit of time to protest against these bannings. Let me know if you can't live with them, and why.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    Sooo... That's a weird time. The Dutch govenment just imposed an evening curfew, and there's tons of protest and rioting.
    The weirdest to me is that Danes and Dutch are rioting, and French or Spanish are not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    5. dte: Wirewood Symbiote, Ketria Triome, Saprazzan Legate, Saprazzan Legate
    Oh no! I have a mountain. Now you can cast 1/3 flyers and murder me! 6-0
    [...]
    Total: 6 points. That's crap. Oh well.
    You've beaten everyone but me, and I've been beaten by everyone but you.
    Funny result, I was on the lucky end of this paper/scissors/rocks.


    Otherwise, perfectly fine with the bannings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    The weirdest to me is that Danes and Dutch are rioting, and French or Spanish are not.

    You've beaten everyone but me, and I've been beaten by everyone but you.
    Funny result, I was on the lucky end of this paper/scissors/rocks.


    Otherwise, perfectly fine with the bannings.
    1) Indeed. The Danes! They never ever riot!

    2) Indeed. I failed to post a deck with a worse land than Mountain, which actually saved me against you. Sooo weird.

    3) Cool, thanks. I was looking at possible cards to play for my deck for next round and found Barren Glory and that weird 7 mana thing and thougfht: OH CRAP, I did not prepare this well at all.
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    I'm not convinced Approach of the Second Sun is actually even good, because of how I expect the format to end up. Not really a big loss though.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    We may not want to allow
    Chancellor of the Annex, Chancellor of the Annex, Approach of the Second Sun, Approach of the Second Sun

    But that is already banned for other reasons.

    Either way, I have no opposition to its banning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    1) Indeed. The Danes! They never ever riot!
    Ahem!? As the supreme leader of Antifa in Denmark. I am offended by this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv1kd1u3gsI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzCQtrNWucI

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhhdk View Post
    Ahem!? As the supreme leader of Antifa in Denmark. I am offended by this.
    Jeg har undskyld, I didn't mean to offend anyone, and particularly not a supreme leader.
    For the sake of accuracy, let's say "extremely rarely compared to the inhabitants of more meridional countries" instead of "never ever"?

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Okay, no arguments agaionst my bannings, so I'll keep them. Wrath suggested the cards might not even be that dangerous, but I feel like having them in the meta invalidates certain archetypes. So both Approach and Barren Glory are out for this round. And I have my deck, so let's open round 2 up.


    ROUND 2 OF SEASON 9: DEVIANT LEGACY - PART 2 has started.

    This round we play Dream Halls: Rather than pay the mana cost for a spell, its controller may discard a card that shares a color with that spell.
    Additional bannings: Progenitus, Approach of the Second Sun, Barren Glory

    I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 2, so you can start sending me your decks.

    DEADLINE: Wednesday the 27th of January at 11:00AM Central European Time.
    (That's my time zone. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Tuesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)

    PLEASE NOTE:
    The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
    Please send your deck as follows: Swamp, Swamp, Terror, Black Knight.
    So with card tags around each card, and not above eachother, and with your Username and 4CB S09R02 in the topic.
    Don't forget to keep an eye on the banned list. You'll find it in the second post of the thread, on in our Google Spreadsheet.

    After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
    If you have any questions, please read the first two posts of this thread first. If you can't find the answer there, drop a message here. We'll answer a.s.a.p.

    Also, if you've been lurking on this thread and looking to join, you can step in anytime, any round. That's no problem at all. Just send me your deck before the deadline, and I'll add you to the competition.

    Happy deck designing everybody!
    Last edited by Asthereal; 01-25-2021 at 08:31 AM.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Also, here's the standings for round 1:

    1. dte: 60 - 5,5
    2. FTW: 51 - 4,6
    3. maxx!: 48 - 4,4
    4. Tylert: 41 - 3,7
    5. GoblinSmashmaster: 34 - 3,1
    6. jhhdk: 32 - 2,9
    7. Wrath of Pie: 30 - 2,7
    8. Serguei: 25 - 2,3
    9. H: 24 - 2,2
    10. alphastryk: 20 - 1,8
    11. Reeplcheep: 12 - 1,1
    12. Asthereal (TO): 6 - 0,5

    EDIT: And I've created the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
    EDIT2: And now you can also edit the spreadsheet just from the link. Hopefully.
    EDIT3: Adjusted scores as FTW loses twice and so gains 6 points against H.
    Last edited by Asthereal; 01-25-2021 at 02:07 PM.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    I've got no issues with those bannings, although I'm not sure how good they were. Progenitus would definitely be annoying though, as almost every deck would contain it.

    The linked google sheet might be private? Its giving me an access denied message

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by alphastryk View Post
    I've got no issues with those bannings, although I'm not sure how good they were. Progenitus would definitely be annoying though, as almost every deck would contain it.

    The linked google sheet might be private? Its giving me an access denied message
    Updated the settings again. Google really doesn't want me to make the spreadsheet as openly available as I need it to be...

    About the bannings: maybe they aren't as important, but I feel like it's kind of silly to force everybody to play all counterspells in order to not just lose.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    That worked, I'm in the google sheet now.

    And maybe having to play defense too hard is a problem in this round, a little hard to predict the meta game here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    Also, here's the standings for round 1:

    1. dte: 60 - 5,5
    2. maxx!: 48 - 4,4
    3. FTW: 45 - 4,1
    4. Tylert: 41 - 3,7
    5. GoblinSmashmaster: 34 - 3,1
    6. jhhdk: 32 - 2,9
    7. Wrath of Pie: 30 - 2,7
    8. H: 30 - 2,7
    9. Serguei: 25 - 2,3
    10. alphastryk: 20 - 1,8
    11. Reeplcheep: 12 - 1,1
    12. Asthereal (TO): 6 - 0,5
    I thought I had 51 points. Which of my results was wrong?

    I 3-3 Wrath (mirror) and should automatically 6-0 anyone without Forest + green creature smaller than 3/3

    It may effect top 3 standings, though I guess not bannings since we stopped doing a bannathon.

    Edit: This is my fault. I wrote LL 0-6 out of habit instead of LL 6-0.
    I counted it correctly in my total, but it was transcribed as 0 (the way I wrote it) into the spreadsheet. Fixed now.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    I thought I had 51 points. Which of my results was wrong?

    I 3-3 Wrath (mirror) and should automatically 6-0 anyone without basic Forest + green creature smaller than 3/3

    It may effect top 3 standings, though I guess not bannings since we stopped doing a bannathon.
    Your results against H are wrong, you should lose it 6-0.
    But yourself wrote a confusing"LL 0-6" for it ;)

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    Your results against H are wrong, you should lose it 6-0.
    But yourself wrote a confusing"LL 0-6" for it ;)
    Fixed this in the results. This takes FTW to second place in round 1.
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    EDIT: And the second I post my question whether silk has time to send a deck, he sends it.
    I'll post decks soon.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    DECKS FOR ROUND 2 OF SEASON 9: Deviant Legacy - Part 2
    This round we play Dream Halls: Rather than pay the mana cost for a spell, its controller may discard a card that shares a color with that spell. Additional bannings: Progenitus, Approach of the Second Sun, Barren Glory.

    The entries:
    1. Asthereal (TO): Guile, Spelljack, Draining Whelk, Chromium, the Mutable
    2. dte: Chancellor of the forge, Counterflux, Torrential gearhulk, Aethersnatch
    3. jhhdk: Aluren, Casualties of War, Cavern Harpy, Parasitic Strix
    4. Wrath of Pie: Time Stop, Spelljack, Guile, Guile
    5. alphastryk: Mindbreak Trap, Commandeer, Guile, Guile
    6. Tylert: Aethersnatch, Aethersnatch, Counterflux, The Ur-Dragon
    7. Serguei: Guile, Guile, Wheel and Deal, Mindbreak Trap
    8. Reeplcheep: Savage Summoning, Dragonlord Dromoka, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV , Mindbreak Trap
    9. GoblinSmashmaster: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Miraculous Recovery, Spelljack, Mindbreak Trap
    10. FTW: Chancellor of the Forge, Dualcaster Mage, Discontinuity, Spelljack
    11. H: Guile, Guile, Nexus of Fate, Last Word
    12. maxx!: Slaughter Games, Counterflux, Surrak Dragonclaw, Sandstorm Eidolon
    13. silkster: Counterflux, Aethersnatch, Take Possession, Chancellor of the Forge

    Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
    You can also enter your scores in the Google Spreadsheet for the seasonwhich you can find here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing


    PS. This round is a lot less diverse than I had hoped...
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    In this crazy overpowered round the best thing to be doing was chancellor of the annex imo. Since that is banned, I built my own uncounterable t0 chancellor. If that isn’t good enough I can just play a dragon lord dromaka plus arbiter or exile your spell. Guile redrawing is too slow in most cases to race my 4 turn lifelinking clock I believe.

    8. Reeplcheep: Savage Summoning, Dragonlord Dromoka, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV , Mindbreak Trap

    1. Asthereal (TO): Guile, Spelljack, Draining Whelk, Chromium, the Mutable
    Judge! What happens to whelks etb if it targets an uncounterable spell?

    2. dte: Chancellor of the forge, Counterflux, Torrential gearhulk, Aethersnatch
    Lose to the goblin LL 0/6

    3. jhhdk: Aluren, Casualties of War, Cavern Harpy, Parasitic Strix
    You can’t beat t0 arbiter. WW 6-0

    4. Wrath of Pie: Time Stop, Spelljack, Guile, Guile
    Easy draw DD 2-2
    5. alphastryk: Mindbreak Trap, Commandeer, Guile, Guile
    If you ever commit guile to the board you lose to dramoka plus backup. On my turn I cast a normal arbiter which you have to exile not steal, then I cast dramoka for the win. WW 6-0.

    6. Tylert: Aethersnatch, Aethersnatch, Counterflux, The Ur-Dragon
    Ur dragon beats dramoka in the head to head. LL 0-6.

    7. Serguei: Guile, Guile, Wheel and Deal, Mindbreak Trap
    OTP you can’t beat arbiter into dramoka. OTD I can only cast 1 spell on your turn, so no matter what you wheel, MBT my first spell, then win with guile beats.WL 3-3

    9. GoblinSmashmaster: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Miraculous Recovery, Spelljack, Mindbreak Trap
    OTP Dramoka with MBT backup forces you to spend everything. OTD arbiter plus MBT for my uncounterable arbiter in response wins. DL 1-4.

    10. FTW: Chancellor of the Forge, Dualcaster Mage, Discontinuity, Spelljack
    Lose to the goblin LL 0-6
    11. H: Guile, Guile, Nexus of Fate, Last Word
    You can’t beat t0 uncounterable arbiter. WW 6-0
    12. maxx!: Slaughter Games, Counterflux, Surrak Dragonclaw, Sandstorm Eidolon
    You can beat t0 uncounterable arbiter. OTP dramoka wins, OTD you can slaughter games. I let it happen and then MBT surrak in repose to the eidolon trigger for the draw. WD 4-1
    13. silkster: Counterflux, Aethersnatch, Take Possession, Chancellor of the Forge
    Lose to the goblin LL 0-6

    Uberflash not good enough to beat super delver.
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