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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by square_two View Post

    2. Tylert: Blinkmoth nexus, Izzet Boilerworks, Jhoira of the Ghitu, Emrakul, the aeons torn
    WW
    Bomb Jhoira once she hits. From there, I can do 2 damage every other turn but you can do only 1 every other.
    He could just not cast Jhoira and wait for you to activate Spellbomb, so you end up staring for draws.

    Might be some endstep trickery that can get you wins though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    He could just not cast Jhoira and wait for you to activate Spellbomb, so you end up staring for draws.

    Might be some endstep trickery that can get you wins though.
    I can end step bomb him, my turn recur, he plays jhoira and I can play bomb and kill her my followup. So I think it holds as is?

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by square_two View Post
    I can end step bomb him, my turn recur, he plays jhoira and I can play bomb and kill her my followup. So I think it holds as is?
    That should do it.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by square_two View Post
    3. square_two: Academy Ruins, Izzet Boilerworks, Engineered Explosives, Pyrite Spellbomb

    1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Blinkmoth Nexus, Inquisition of Kozilek, Bitterblossom
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    I can blow up Bitterblossom and tokens, and blast the Blinkmoth...although I can do 2 every other turn to your face, could you attack me with the moth on the turn that I have to recur the bomb? That might eek out some damage for you to draw it out. Can't EE the land critter.

    Testing OTD...

    A: Swamp, Inquisition EE
    S: Academy, Bomb

    A: Nexus, Bitterblossom
    S: bounceland

    A: A19 1 token, swing with moth S19
    S: Academy, ready to recur EE at end of your turn (force you to not use moth due to active bomb)

    A: A18 2 tokens, swing with 1 token S18
    S: draw EE, play with 2 counters

    A: A17 3 tokens, swing w/ 2 + moth S15
    S: nuke blossom, EE in grave

    A: swing with 3 tokens + moth S11
    S: ready to recur EE

    A: swing with 3 tokens (not moth) S8
    S: deploy bomb at 0, nuke the faerie tokens, use leftover R to hit you A15

    A: attack with moth S7
    S: A is at 15, S at 7...I can do 2 damage every other turn to face, but you can do 1 every other turn with moth. Uh...recur bomb

    A: attack with moth S6
    S: bomb ready but wait so you cant attack

    A: pass, EOT I bomb you A13
    S: recur bomb

    and this repeats..

    S5
    A11
    S4
    A9
    S3
    A7
    S2
    A5
    S1
    and there I have to draw out and not hit your face anymore.

    Extra turn I get on the play, I don't think it changes things.
    This looks right. I forgot that it takes you two turns to retrieve Bomb, so I get to attack every other turn.
    I guess we draw both. Editing my results.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Blinkmoth Nexus, Inquisition of Kozilek, Bitterblossom
    I actually forgot the Blinkmoth was in these sets, so I only narrowly win one, math was already posted, should be 3-3.

    2. Tylert: Blinkmoth nexus, Izzet Boilerworks, Jhoira of the Ghitu, Emrakul, the aeons torn
    Not seeing how I can win this one. 0-6

    3. square_two: Academy Ruins, Izzet Boilerworks, Engineered Explosives, Pyrite Spellbomb
    As posted by S2, EE not good here. 6-0

    4. Wrath of Pie: Blinkmoth Nexus, Swamp, Inquisition of Kozilek, Bitterblossom
    Same 3-3 as before.

    5. H: Bye, myself.

    6. Unlif3: Cavern of Souls, Blinkmoth Nexus, Death's Shadow, Spellskite
    Spellkite walls me out. 0-6

    7. GoblinSmashmaster: City of Brass, Durkwood Baloth, Inquisition of Kozilek, Path to Exile
    I took the risk on someone playing both IoK and Path. 0-6

    8. FTW: Academy Ruins, Dimir Aqueduct, Arcbound Ravager, Engineered Explosives
    Again, EE not great here. 6-0

    18? Since I was near last, I didn't want to do BB math, I just went for something silly. I considered Vial, but that was so bad with IoK around. And double Vial builds would get blown out by Path.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    2. Tylert: Blinkmoth nexus, Izzet Boilerworks, Jhoira of the Ghitu, Emrakul, the aeons torn
    Not seeing how I can win this one. 0-6
    Somebody put you down as 6-0 in the spreadsheet, so I got curious if you could race the Suspend.

    H - Reckoner
    T - Jhoira

    H - Reckoner #2. Attack [T=17]
    T - Suspend Emrakul with 4 counters

    H - Attack with both [T=11]
    T - 3 counters

    H - Attack with both. [T=5]
    T - 2 counters

    H - Attack with both. Chump with 1/1 Blinkmoth and Jhoira. Reckoners trigger, 3 to face. [T=2]
    T - 1 counter

    H - Attack [T=dead]

    You race him before it resolves!

    OTD Emrakul resolves a turn earlier and annihilates your board.

    WL 3-3?

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    Somebody put you down as 6-0 in the spreadsheet, so I got curious if you could race the Suspend.

    H - Reckoner
    T - Jhoira

    H - Reckoner #2. Attack [T=17]
    T - Suspend Emrakul with 4 counters

    H - Attack with both [T=11]
    T - 3 counters

    H - Attack with both. [T=5]
    T - 2 counters

    H - Attack with both. Chump with 1/1 Blinkmoth and Jhoira. Reckoners trigger, 3 to face. [T=2]
    T - 1 counter

    H - Attack [T=dead]

    You race him before it resolves!

    OTD Emrakul resolves a turn earlier and annihilates your board.

    WL 3-3?
    Oh, wow, thanks for the math there. For some reason, in my head, I forgot that it would be the turn after Jhoira gets played that the Emmy gets Suspended, not the same one (which is obvious in retrospect).

    So, 21 isn't too terrible for me.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    Somebody put you down as 6-0 in the spreadsheet, so I got curious if you could race the Suspend.

    H - Reckoner
    T - Jhoira

    H - Reckoner #2. Attack [T=17]
    T - Suspend Emrakul with 4 counters

    H - Attack with both [T=11]
    T - 3 counters

    H - Attack with both. [T=5]
    T - 2 counters

    H - Attack with both. Chump with 1/1 Blinkmoth and Jhoira. Reckoners trigger, 3 to face. [T=2]
    T - 1 counter

    H - Attack [T=dead]

    You race him before it resolves!

    OTD Emrakul resolves a turn earlier and annihilates your board.

    WL 3-3?
    LOL yeah I did that math, but I probably screwed up. I'm still sick.
    I missed the Blinkmoth chump, by the looks of it. That means you're a turn slower.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    No time to do the calculation, but you guys are not fun, why playing IoK over raven's crime which is the clear best card here???!!!
    I tried something funny, instead of playing something like IoK + Bitterblossom :) But you guys went for IoK or PoE!!

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    No time to do the calculation, but you guys are not fun, why playing IoK over raven's crime which is the clear best card here???!!!
    I tried something funny, instead of playing something like IoK + Bitterblossom :) But you guys went for IoK or PoE!!
    Yeah, obviously competitive player saw obviously good cards and obviously played them. Had to try to vacate that last place. Sorry!

    Anyway, at last I'm better now, after a very badly timed sickness. Time to take a look a what the heck happened in this final round.


    Standings for round 12

    Rank. Player: Score - SP
    1. GoblinSmashmaster: 36 - 5,1
    2. Asthereal (TO): 22 - 3,1
    2. Wrath of Pie: 22 - 3,1
    4. H: 21 - 3
    5. FTW: 20 - 2,9
    6. square_two: 18 - 2,6
    7. Unlif3: 12 - 1,7
    8. Tylert: 9 - 1,3


    FINAL STANDINGS FOR SEASON 4

    1. GoblinSmashmaster: 40,9
    2. Wrath of Pie: 32,5
    3. Unlif3: 32
    4. FTW: 32
    5. square_two: 29,9
    6. H: 29,1
    7. Tylert: 27,6
    8. Asthereal (TO): 27,2


    Gobbo finishes a very consistent season in style with a clear win. Well done and congratz on clinching this season!
    Everybody else finishes within 6 points of eachother, but I have to say last season's champ disappointed a bit here.

    I'll be updating things in the next few days. Keep an eye in the thread for the launch of season 5.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    My apologies for the slow launch. My sickness during the holidays messed up my schedule quite a bit.
    So I'll launch now, but actually give you guys a little over a week to come up with your first deck.


    SEASON FIVE OF 4CB: MODERN MADNESS

    For season 5, we'll be playing 12 rounds of Modern, with a starting banned list plus banning the winning deck after each round.
    I have decided to start with a modest banned list, since cards that break the meta will get banned soon anyway.
    This way, we'll have maximum card pool for the first few rounds, including stuff like Mental Misstep and friends.
    You will find the banned list in the second post of the thread, and in the second tab of the Google Spreadsheet.
    Please note: all cards that are noted in the Gatherer as "legal in Modern" are legal, AND all cards that are noted "banned in Modern" but don't appear in our banned list are also legal.
    You know, we work with our own banned list, but I had to define it clearly so nobody gets confuzzled.

    Oh, and you can find the Google Spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Anyway, let's get this going. I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 1, so you can start sending me your decks.

    DEADLINE: Wednesday the 15th of January, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
    (That's my time zone. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Tuesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)

    PLEASE NOTE:
    The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
    Please send your deck as follows: Swamp, Mountain, Blightspeaker, Combust (so with card tags around each card, and not above eachother), with your Username and 4CB S05R01 in the topic.
    Many of you already do this. Thanks a lot, this really saves me a lot of time and hassle of copying and pasting text and tags!

    After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
    If you have any questions, please read the first two posts of this thread first. If you can't find the answer there, drop a message here. We'll answer a.s.a.p.

    Also, if you've been lurking on this thread and looking to join, you can step in anytime, any round. That's no problem at all. Just send me your deck before the deadline, and I'll add you to the competition.

    Happy deck designing everybody!
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    RIP Lab Maniac, you have been obsoleted.


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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    RIP Lab Maniac, you have been obsoleted.

    Hmm. I guess we ban this? Anyone opposed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    Hmm. I guess we ban this? Anyone opposed?
    It is definitely worthy of an emergency ban, it is ridiculous in Vintage CB which says a lot.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    DEADLINE: Wednesday the 15th of January, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
    Is it a one time 2 weeks deadline for the first round?
    Two weeks is way too long. I was already lurking here to check if the decks were posted :)

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie View Post
    It is definitely worthy of an emergency ban, it is ridiculous in Vintage CB which says a lot.
    Yeah, if Lab Man is banned and this card is pretty much superior in almost every way, I think a ban is warranted.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    Is it a one time 2 weeks deadline for the first round?
    Two weeks is way too long. I was already lurking here to check if the decks were posted :)
    Indeed this is a one time thing.

    The alternative was either change the schedule entirely, or a deadline within 48 hours.
    So I chose this. After this round, we'll return to the regular schedule of one round per week.


    Also, no one seems opposed to banning the "UU: you win" card, so I'll add it to the banned list.
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Asthereal View Post
    Indeed this is a one time thing.
    Ok, so i have one more week to find a better alternative of what i sent you already.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    A little under a day until the deadline, and we're at just 3 entries. Tough start?
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    The deadline has passed, and I'm still at just 4 entries.
    Do you guys need a bit more time? Or is everybody getting a bit tired of 4CB?
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