Zendikar Rising looks to be one of the more relevant sets for CB, turns out a new 2-mana LD spell and a green Chronomaton make the cut.
Won't dig me out of eighth place though.
H: Mountain, Ghitu Lavarunner, Forked Bolt, Lightning Bolt
1. Asthereal (TO): Mountain, Jackal Pup, Lightning Bolt, Crack the Earth
We both have removals. 2-2
2. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Kobolds of Kher Keep, Mana Skimmer, Culling the Weak
I have removal. 6-0
3. Wrath of Pie: Khalni Garden, Selesnya Sanctuary, Midnight Guard, Presence of Gond
Lightning Bolt is good here. 6-0
4. GoblinSmashmaster: Khalni Garden, Swamp, Silhana Ledgewalker, Spinal Graft
Spinal Graft! What a great old card, used to use that in an old Shadow deck in ancient times. I also can't beat the Ledgewalker. 0-6
5. dte: Swiftwater Cliffs, Conjurer's Bauble, Stream of Thought, Lightning Bolt
Pretty sure I can't beat this sort of recursion. 0-6
6. FTW: Swamp, Mistvein Borderpost, Sinkhole, Esper Stormblade
I forgot about Sinkhole...I have to just hold all my cards for the draw. 2-2
7. H: Bye, myself.
8. alphastryk: Khalni Garden, Selesnya Sanctuary, Qasali Pridemage, Selesnya Evangel
I have two removal spells. 6-0
9. maxx!: Swamp, Rakdos Carnarium, Raven's Crime, Gobhobbler Rats
Yeah, I had a hunch this would end up as draws and maxx! did the write up below. 2-2
10. silkster: Island, Reef Shaman, Essence Flare, Wind Zendikon
We both have the removal to draw. 2-2
11. Tylert: Plains, Akrasan squire, Akrasan squire, Sacred cat
I think I should win this, because I can hit both Squires with removal and the single Cat can't race?
Actually, maybe this is a draw, if Tyler leads on Cat?
H T1: Mountain, Lavarunner.
Tyler T1: Plains, Cat.
H T2: I can't race. But Tyler can't play a Squire because I would Forked Bolt both, then Bolt the second Squire. So I think we maybe just draw both of these. 2-2
So, maybe 28?
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Point of clarification - are Zendikar Rising spoilers legal now? Or do we need to wait for the set to officially come out.
I see a double draw here.
Sx is when you make a token and x is the number of tokens you have:
You can at least produce a 1/1 to block my 3/3 lifelink every turn. Let's see if you can do better below:
OTP: T1 = squire. Garden.
T2 = Squire, att Y17 M20. sanctuary.
T3 = Cat, att Y14 M20. Garden.
T4 = att, Y11 M23. presence.
T5 = att, Y8 M27, S1. guard.
T6 = att, You trade guard vs my cat Y8 M30 S1, I make a cat. Nothing.
T7 = att, Y5 M33 S2. Nothing.
T8 = att, S3 kill cat Y5 M36. Nothing.
T9 = att, Y2 M36 S1. nothing.
T10 = att, You have to chump with garden token 1 S2. Nothing.
T11 = att, S3 you kill squire 1. Nothing.
T12 = att, You have to chump with token infinitely for the draw.
OTD: T1 = Garden, squire.
T2 = Sanctuary. Squire, att Y17 M20
T3 = garden. Cat, att Y14 M20.
T4 = Presence of gond. Att Y11 M23.
T5 = Guard. Att, S1 You trade with guard and a token Y11 M27, I replay cat.
T6 = Nothing. Att, Y8 M30 S1.
T7 = Nothing. Att, Y5 M33 S2.
T8 = Nothing. Att, S3 you trade with cat Y5 M36.
T9 = Nothing. Att, Y2 M36, S1.
T10 = Nothing. Att, you chump with garden token S2.
T11 = Nothing. Att, S3 You trade with squire 1.
T12 = Nothing. Att, S1 you chump indefinitely for the draw.
Double draw
1. Asthereal (TO): Mountain, Jackal Pup, Lightning Bolt, Crack the Earth
2. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Kobolds of Kher Keep, Mana Skimmer, Culling the Weak
3. Wrath of Pie: Khalni Garden, Selesnya Sanctuary, Midnight Guard, Presence of Gond
4. GoblinSmashmaster: Khalni Garden, Swamp, Silhana Ledgewalker, Spinal Graft
5. dte: Swiftwater Cliffs, Conjurer's Bauble, Stream of Thought, Lightning Bolt
6. FTW: Swamp, Mistvein Borderpost, Sinkhole, Esper Stormblade
7. H: Mountain, Ghitu Lavarunner, Forked Bolt, Lightning Bolt
8. alphastryk: Khalni Garden, Selesnya Sanctuary, Qasali Pridemage, Selesnya Evangel
9. maxx!: Swamp, Rakdos Carnarium, Raven's Crime, Gobhobbler Rats
10. silkster: Island, Reef Shaman, Essence Flare, Wind Zendikon
11. Tylert: Plains, Akrasan squire, Akrasan squire, Sacred cat
1. Asthereal: 3 interactions for my 4 bodies. OTP I allways have a threat to sac to crack the earth. OTD, You can bolt my threat EOT and the crack the earth for the draw. 4-1 --> 4
2. Reeplcheep: OTP, I have sacred cat and a squire to race skimmer, if you block I have two squires left for the win. OTD, You lock down my land after I play Cat and have the first damage in so you win. 3-3 --> 7
3. Wrath of Pie: Can't kill you before you combo out. 0-6 --> 7
4. GoblinSmashmaster: Your 4/4 can't race my 3/3 lifelinker, so we stare at each other indefinitely. 2-2 --> 9
5. dte:
OTP T1 = squire. Cliffs (Y21 M20).
T2 = Squire, attack Y18 M20. kill squire.
T3 = Cat, att, Y16 M20. Play stream of thought to have bolt on top.
T4 = Att, Y14 M22. play bauble, Crack bauble to get bolt and put stream of thought at the bottom of your library
T5 = Att, Y12 M24. Draw stream, Bolt the squire.
T6 = Att, Y11, M25. Play stream of thought to have bolt on top.
T7 = Att, Y10, M26. Play bauble, Crack bauble to get bolt and put stream of thought at the bottom of your library
T8 = Att, Y9, M27. Draw stream, Bolt cat.
T9 = Replay Cat. Play stream of thought to have bolt on top.
T10 = Att, Y8 M26. Play bauble, Crack bauble to get bolt and put stream of thought at the bottom of your library
T11 = Att, Y7 M27. Draw stream, Bolt cat. You win.
OTD, I should be slower so you win also. 0-6 --> 9
6. FTW: OTP: I can play Cat and a squire before you play sinkhole. I'll attack with a 2/2 lifelinker that comes back into your 3/2 and Win. OTD, I only have a cat or a squire. Both can't race a 3/2 so you win. 3-3 --> 12
7. H: I only play cat first. It races lavamancer alone as you can't use both removals on him (You'll loose then to my 3/3 squire). So it's a standoff. 2-2 --> 14
8. Alphastryk: Why Ain't this deck banned yet? :) strange...
OTP: T1 = Squire. Garden.
T2 = squire Att Y17 M20. Sanctuary.
T3 = Cat, Att Y14 M20. garden.
T4 = Att Y11 M23. Evangel.
T5 = Att Y8 M26. pridemage.
T6 = Att, if you block with a new token, it's a draw so let's assume you don't, Y5 M29 S1. Att Y5 M26.
T7 = Att, You 2 M29 S2. Att Y2 M25.
T8 = Att, There you have to block so you make a token, You 2 M28. Att You 2 M24.
I loose this race. I can't stay on defense so you win.
OTD I should be slower. 0-6 --> 14
9. Maxx!: I'll allways play a squire first and discard cat to your raven's crime. OTP, i'll have a 3/3 lifelinker, OTD a 2/2 lifelinker they both race a 3/2 rat. So it's a standoff. 2/2 --> 16
10. Silkster: OTD I can't win because althoug my 1/1 lifelinker could race your 2/2 by doing the first damage, you can at some point in time cast essence flare on it and I can't get it back. OTP: I can play both squires and attack first with a 3/3 that races your 2/2. If you kill a squire, I still have a 2/2 attacker that races your 2/2 because i've done the first damage. you can trade to make it a draw because you can lock my land but still can't attack because i have a cat in hand. 1-4 --> 17
11. Me.
Total 17.
Last edited by Tylert; 09-04-2020 at 01:24 AM.
Once Wrath of Pie makes a single token, the Guard untaps and Wrath or Pie proceeds to make a billion tokens.
Release seems to be September 25, which is after this season finishes (round 11 on September 9, round 12 on September 16). In fact, we'll be playing one round of Peasant Banathon before it's release, though I don't think it would have figured into round 1 anyway.
Last edited by silkster; 09-04-2020 at 04:00 AM.
Infinity is enough tokens. He makes infinite tokens on turn 5. You need to either kill his Guard or goldfish faster through 2 0/1 plants. I think he beats all decks without removal or mana denial.
Midnight Guard + Presence of Gond
Preliminary scores for round 10:
1. silkster: 38 - 3,8
2. FTW: 35 - 3,5
3. Asthereal (TO): 32 - 3,2
4. dte: 30 - 3,0
4. Reeplcheep: 30 - 3,0
6. maxx!: 29 - 2,9
7. H: 28 - 2,8
8. alphastryk: 22 - 2,2
9. GoblinSmashmaster: 19 - 1,9
10. Tylert: 17 - 1,7
11. Wrath of Pie: 15 - 1,5
Which would lead to these bannings:
Crack the Earth
Esper Stormblade
Essence Flare
Jackal Pup
Lightning Bolt
Mistvein Borderpost
Reef Shaman
Sinkhole
Wind Zendikon
But the scores are extremely close, so these bannings might change still if any scores change.
Last edited by Asthereal; 09-06-2020 at 06:21 AM.
Join the 4 Card Blind competition!
My apologies for writing so late, but it makes things easier that everybody figured out the scores already :)
And thank you very much for the kind words about my deck, that's very nice to read!
I think I have 30, not 32:
DECKS FOR ROUND 10 OF SEASON 7: Pauper Bannathon
1. Asthereal (TO): Mountain, Jackal Pup, Lightning Bolt, Crack the Earth
1-4
2. Reeplcheep: Swamp, Kobolds of Kher Keep, Mana Skimmer, Culling the Weak
1-4
3. Wrath of Pie: Khalni Garden, Selesnya Sanctuary, Midnight Guard, Presence of Gond
2-2
4. GoblinSmashmaster: Khalni Garden, Swamp, Silhana Ledgewalker, Spinal Graft
0-6
5. dte: Swiftwater Cliffs, Conjurer's Bauble, Stream of Thought, Lightning Bolt
Me
6. FTW: Swamp, Mistvein Borderpost, Sinkhole, Esper Stormblade
1-4
7. H: Mountain, Ghitu Lavarunner, Forked Bolt, Lightning Bolt
6-0
8. alphastryk: Khalni Garden, Selesnya Sanctuary, Qasali Pridemage, Selesnya Evangel
6-0
9. maxx!: Swamp, Rakdos Carnarium, Raven's Crime, Gobhobbler Rats
1-4
10. silkster: Island, Reef Shaman, Essence Flare, Wind Zendikon
6-0
11. Tylert: Plains, Akrasan squire, Akrasan squire, Sacred cat
6-0
30
for the question about double Stream of Thought, the problems would be: impossible to play 2 bolts in a row (against maxx regenerating rats for instance, or against battle screech), against double discard (you would lose with one stream in grave and one in hand), but mostly against land destruction: with this you mostly DL instead of LL.
This seems to be the difference, and I agree. I was all "Lightning Bolt kills the Skimmer, easy win", but Reeplcheep just holds and waits. The turn that Stream of Thought is cast to recur both other cards, there's a window for the Skimmer to come down when dte will draw the Bauble and be locked out from Bolt.
A while ago we had a short discussion of the worst or most embarrassing cards that were banned. The banning of Lightning Bolt is interesting because it comes six rounds after Seal of Fire got the axe. Looking back, Lightning Bolt would have scored 2 fewer points (WD instead of WW against Crack the Earth).
I was proud to get Tremble banned before Crack the Earth, haha. Tremble doesn't exactly top my list of powerful commons.
Getting Tremble banned before Sinkhole is impressive too, although that's probably related to having Peat Bog banned much earlier than Sandstone Needle.
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