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    rakdos the defiler - half pox, half suicide black, 100% awesome

    Question - is your current EDH meta stale and boring? do you ever feel like all these value-engines are uninteresting, multiplayer-solitaire games are just grindy and taking too long? Do you like living on the edge? If so, this might be for you:

    Commander
    1 Rakdos the Defiler

    Demons
    1 Archfiend of despair
    1 Abyssal Persecutor
    1 sower of discord
    1 Rakdos, Lord of Riots
    1 Archfiend of Depravity
    1 Master of Cruelties
    1 Sire of Insanity
    1 Malfegor
    1 Hellcarver Demon
    1 Reaper from the Abyss
    1 Lord of the Void
    1 Rune-scarred Demon
    1 Abhorrent Overlord
    1 Defiler of Souls
    1 Razaketh, the Foulblooded

    Non-Demon Creatures
    1 It That Betrays
    1 treasonous ogre
    1 phyrexian delver
    1 Anger
    1 Gray Merchant of Asphodel

    Instants and Sorceries
    1 Dark Ritual
    1 Rain of Filth
    1 bubbling muck
    1 Songs of the Damned
    1 Sacrifice
    1 Burnt Offering

    1 Read the Bones
    1 Pain's Reward
    1 Cruel Bargain
    1 Infernal Contract
    1 Faithless Looting
    1 Wheel of Fortune

    1 Entomb
    1 Demonic Consultation
    1 moonlight bargain
    1 Doomsday
    1 Insidious Dreams

    1 Pox
    1 Death Cloud
    1 World at War
    1 Savage Beating
    1 Living Death
    1 torment of hailfire

    1 Mizzix's Mastery
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Ill-Gotten Gains

    1 Shallow Grave
    1 Reanimate
    1 Exhume

    1 Repay in Kind
    1 Final Fortune

    Artifacts
    1 Sol Ring
    1 Mana Crypt
    1 Rakdos Signet
    1 Talisman of Indulgence
    1 Whip of Erebus
    1 mana vault

    Enchantments
    1 Necropotence
    1 Lich
    1 Mass Hysteria
    1 Fervor
    1 animate dead


    Lands
    1 Bloodstained Mire
    1 Blood Crypt
    1 Dragonskull Summit
    1 Blackcleave Cliffs
    1 Graven Cairns
    1 Tainted Peak
    1 Sulfurous Springs
    1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
    1 Command Tower
    1 Reflecting Pool
    1 Mana Confluence
    1 City of Brass
    1 phyrexian tower
    1 Ancient Tomb
    1 Spinerock Knoll
    1 Lake of the Dead
    1 Foreboding Ruins
    1 Badlands
    1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    2 Mountain
    15 Swamp


    It's something like that.

    Some notable interactions:
    pox, rakdos the defiler, torment of hailfire + it that betrays = probably, you win
    hellcarver demon + insidious dreams (search for say lich-repay in kind or abyssal overlord, world at war, breath of fury, final fortune) = you win, probably
    abyssal overlord + breath of fury can do an amazing amount of damage. Most of the time, there's at least 1 player who's open to flying attacks, so your imps can get in round after round, giving you free hits against everyone else with your bigger beaters.

    Many non-"i-win" interactions are based off haste enabler, a reanimation spell or a sacrifice/burnt offering into massive beater/pseudo-board wipe. It goes from you not looking scary to suddenly being on the brink of winning.

    Other things you can do are quick starts; say you have ritual + sol ring or mana crypt in hand, you can turn 1 demonic consultation for whatever big thing you can cast, and start early beatdowns.
    My favourite (demigod-hand) early-game start is turn 2 treasonous ogre, 12 life for anger, sacrifice (sacking anger), another 6 life for sire of insanity, then swing for 8. i don't remember if i won or lost that one, but it felt good.

    Anyways, this deck is an amazingly good and fun. and is quite skill-intensive. most of the time, i really gotta figure out all my lines, and more often than not, i lose not because my opponents played well, but is usually because i didn't play well enough.

    Also, you usually get the greatest looks from the other players whenever you do anything. "pain's reward, pay 20 life" gets looks, even when you reveal rakdos the defiler as your general, people know you mean business!

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    Re: rakdos the defiler - half pox, half suicide black, 100% awesome

    Added tags for myself.

    Commander
    1 Rakdos the Defiler

    Demons
    1 Archfiend of despair
    1 Abyssal Persecutor
    1 sower of discord
    1 Rakdos, Lord of Riots
    1 Archfiend of Depravity
    1 Master of Cruelties
    1 Sire of Insanity
    1 Malfegor
    1 Hellcarver Demon
    1 Reaper from the Abyss
    1 Lord of the Void
    1 Rune-scarred Demon
    1 Abhorrent Overlord
    1 Defiler of Souls
    1 Razaketh, the Foulblooded

    Non-Demon Creatures
    1 It That Betrays
    1 treasonous ogre
    1 phyrexian delver
    1 Anger
    1 Gray Merchant of Asphodel

    Instants and Sorceries
    1 Dark Ritual
    1 Rain of Filth
    1 bubbling muck
    1 Songs of the Damned
    1 Sacrifice
    1 Burnt Offering

    1 Read the Bones
    1 Pain's Reward
    1 Cruel Bargain
    1 Infernal Contract
    1 Faithless Looting
    1 Wheel of Fortune

    1 Entomb
    1 Demonic Consultation
    1 moonlight bargain
    1 Doomsday
    1 Insidious Dreams

    1 Pox
    1 Death Cloud
    1 World at War
    1 Savage Beating
    1 Living Death
    1 torment of hailfire

    1 Mizzix's Mastery
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Ill-Gotten Gains

    1 Shallow Grave
    1 Reanimate
    1 Exhume

    1 Repay in Kind
    1 Final Fortune

    Artifacts
    1 Sol Ring
    1 Mana Crypt
    1 Rakdos Signet
    1 Talisman of Indulgence
    1 Whip of Erebus
    1 mana vault

    Enchantments
    1 Necropotence
    1 Lich
    1 Mass Hysteria
    1 Fervor
    1 animate dead


    Lands
    1 Bloodstained Mire
    1 Blood Crypt
    1 Dragonskull Summit
    1 Blackcleave Cliffs
    1 Graven Cairns
    1 Tainted Peak
    1 Sulfurous Springs
    1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
    1 Command Tower
    1 Reflecting Pool
    1 Mana Confluence
    1 City of Brass
    1 phyrexian tower
    1 Ancient Tomb
    1 Spinerock Knoll
    1 Lake of the Dead
    1 Foreboding Ruins
    1 Badlands
    1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    2 Mountain
    15 Swamp



    Couple things
    moonlight Bargain - how did i not know this existed? Going to pick one up for my Maren Stax deck.
    No liliana's contract? Or is that too straightforward? Seems like it would be an easy thing to tutor for and win with either casting the dudes or reanimating them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    Look at the bright side, if Legacy becomes like Vintage all of us old dudes can get together, drink whiskey, and smoke cigars while we play the gentleman's format. Like an MtG speak-easy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    And the Reserved List causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their portfolios: and that no man might buy or sell cards or Chinese rip offs, save he made a post about the Reserved List or the number of its Threads: 666.

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    Re: rakdos the defiler - half pox, half suicide black, 100% awesome

    Quote Originally Posted by ronco View Post
    Added tags for myself.

    Commander
    1 Rakdos the Defiler

    Demons
    1 Archfiend of despair
    1 Abyssal Persecutor
    1 sower of discord
    1 Rakdos, Lord of Riots
    1 Archfiend of Depravity
    1 Master of Cruelties
    1 Sire of Insanity
    1 Malfegor
    1 Hellcarver Demon
    1 Reaper from the Abyss
    1 Lord of the Void
    1 Rune-scarred Demon
    1 Abhorrent Overlord
    1 Defiler of Souls
    1 Razaketh, the Foulblooded

    Non-Demon Creatures
    1 It That Betrays
    1 treasonous ogre
    1 phyrexian delver
    1 Anger
    1 Gray Merchant of Asphodel

    Instants and Sorceries
    1 Dark Ritual
    1 Rain of Filth
    1 bubbling muck
    1 Songs of the Damned
    1 Sacrifice
    1 Burnt Offering

    1 Read the Bones
    1 Pain's Reward
    1 Cruel Bargain
    1 Infernal Contract
    1 Faithless Looting
    1 Wheel of Fortune

    1 Entomb
    1 Demonic Consultation
    1 moonlight bargain
    1 Doomsday
    1 Insidious Dreams

    1 Pox
    1 Death Cloud
    1 World at War
    1 Savage Beating
    1 Living Death
    1 torment of hailfire

    1 Mizzix's Mastery
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Ill-Gotten Gains

    1 Shallow Grave
    1 Reanimate
    1 Exhume

    1 Repay in Kind
    1 Final Fortune

    Artifacts
    1 Sol Ring
    1 Mana Crypt
    1 Rakdos Signet
    1 Talisman of Indulgence
    1 Whip of Erebus
    1 mana vault

    Enchantments
    1 Necropotence
    1 Lich
    1 Mass Hysteria
    1 Fervor
    1 animate dead


    Lands
    1 Bloodstained Mire
    1 Blood Crypt
    1 Dragonskull Summit
    1 Blackcleave Cliffs
    1 Graven Cairns
    1 Tainted Peak
    1 Sulfurous Springs
    1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
    1 Command Tower
    1 Reflecting Pool
    1 Mana Confluence
    1 City of Brass
    1 phyrexian tower
    1 Ancient Tomb
    1 Spinerock Knoll
    1 Lake of the Dead
    1 Foreboding Ruins
    1 Badlands
    1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    2 Mountain
    15 Swamp



    Couple things
    moonlight Bargain - how did i not know this existed? Going to pick one up for my Maren Stax deck.
    No liliana's contract? Or is that too straightforward? Seems like it would be an easy thing to tutor for and win with either casting the dudes or reanimating them.
    Lilliana’s contract is a bit too much of a “oh wells, I win”.. it doesn’t feel ‘all-out-Aggro-suicide’. Certainly quite good though. Might put it in if I actually feel like I want to win the game. Maybe a end of turn demonic consultation if I feel like I need it.

    By the way. How is read the bones and rakdos lord of riots for you? I pulled my rakdos cuz it never felt like it does enough. Then with read the bones and other pay minimal life for some card sorceries seems too minimal for me. Three red ones gives me outs to reanimate, so they tend to give me more bang for the buck. But maybe I’m missing somethibg


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    EDH decks: zedruu voltron, rakdos the defiler, persistent petitioners, blind seer

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    Re: rakdos the defiler - half pox, half suicide black, 100% awesome

    I actually don't have this deck, so i can't comment on how they are working. I just copied your decklist and put the card tags on it so i could mouse-over everything. There were a lot i wasn't familliar with in your list.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    Look at the bright side, if Legacy becomes like Vintage all of us old dudes can get together, drink whiskey, and smoke cigars while we play the gentleman's format. Like an MtG speak-easy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    And the Reserved List causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their portfolios: and that no man might buy or sell cards or Chinese rip offs, save he made a post about the Reserved List or the number of its Threads: 666.

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    Re: rakdos the defiler - half pox, half suicide black, 100% awesome

    I also have this deck. I like Havoc Festival. Defiler of Souls is a bit underwhelming, I'd play Sheoldred over it (I don't play either). The new Neheb is really strong. Pox seems weak, Ruination is better. In the same vein, I would play Blood Moon or Magus.

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    Re: rakdos the defiler - half pox, half suicide black, 100% awesome

    Isn't Blood Speaker a necessary inclusion?
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