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    Not Legacy playable, but this is such a mish-mash of abilities.
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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
    Collected conjuring look playable in some jank list, collected company for spells sounds abusable. Suspend spells, tinker for vintage, show and tell for legacy etc...
    I'm not sure how much it matters, but you can cast Overmaster and Show and Tell off of it. But I think it's likely still not good enough at 4 mana.
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    I like it for EDH, but 4 mana is a ton for a competitive format.
    Well it kinda cost 3! You can tap the construct.
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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu View Post
    Well it kinda cost 3! You can tap the construct.
    Man, I really dislike that sort of line of reasoning. Like, we could say that Gilded Lotus kind of costs 2. But that is really nonsense. In fact, that is the whole reason why Grim Monolith is worth the amount of money that it is and sees the play that it does, where you'd never see anyone trying to cast a Gilded Lotus in Legacy.

    It really bothers me when people try to talk about 5-mana Teferi like that. It's just not the way an evaluation of CMC really works in a cogent manner.
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    D&T could already do that and they ran 1-2 copies at most. The life loss stacks up, even in decks that don't require life payments otherwise. And it's especially bad in multiples.
    Exactly my point. Even a slow controllish deck like mono white DnT runs 1-2 copies. These lands will show up as 1-2s in a bunch of decks that couldnt run Horizon Canopy.

    Low curve aggressive decks like Burn will likely play more, 2-4 copies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
    Collected conjuring look playable in some jank list, collected company for spells sounds abusable. Suspend spells, tinker for vintage, show and tell for legacy etc...
    They tried really hard to make "self-combo" impossible since it only hits sorceries.

    To hit two sorceries in 6 cards, you'd need more than 20 in the deck... so you're looking at around 24-28 sorceries total. I'm sure you can find 6 useful sorceries with cmc<=3. I'm less sure that you can find 4 mana without getting countered.

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    They tried really hard to make "self-combo" impossible since it only hits sorceries.

    To hit two sorceries in 6 cards, you'd need more than 20 in the deck... so you're looking at around 24-28 sorceries total. I'm sure you can find 6 useful sorceries with cmc<=3. I'm less sure that you can find 4 mana without getting countered.
    It triggers Phoenix by itself. You could also grab double stone rain/molten rain.

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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    morgan_coke, I am sure you love that upgrade to Astral Slide!

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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    Brainstorm could be used to set something up for Collected Conjuring. At one point there should be a critical mass of cards to cast the zero mana Suspend cards reliably.

    As for Urza, what kind of title is "Lord High Artificer"? It sounds weird as hell.

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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Brainstorm could be used to set something up for Collected Conjuring. At one point there should be a critical mass of cards to cast the zero mana Suspend cards reliably.

    As for Urza, what kind of title is "Lord High Artificer"? It sounds weird as hell.
    That was his title in The Brothers War I believe
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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    Spore Frog got reprinted.



    A more expensive Preordain with Flashback. Probably too expensive for normal cantrip decks, but maybe something for decks that run Chalice?

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    Spore Frog got reprinted.



    A more expensive Preordain with Flashback. Probably too expensive for normal cantrip decks, but maybe something for decks that run Chalice?
    Isn't that just a worse version of Discovery//Dispersal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post


    Not Legacy playable, but this is such a mish-mash of abilities.
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    He's not wearing his glasses! How can he see without his glasses!?
    Because he was going to be an acrobat.

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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    A fixed Mom has been printed:


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    A fixed Mom has been printed:

    Really not happy to see Mom in modern.
    But at least it's not a human.
    Though I am pleased it hits colorless now.
    And in legacy I'm the opposite of pleased it hits colorless, but not really worried about 8 mom.dec
    Oh it's a 1/2, because of course it is, lol.

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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    She doesn't die to Dread of Night and its hateful cousins, and helps against Eldrazi, while Mom is like the first card to cut in that specific MU.
    She doesn't target herself, doesn't benefit from Cavern on Humans but benefits on Kor.

    Did I miss something ?

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    New mom can't target herself, but isn't Legendary. Hopefully nobody will play multiples.
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    God fucking fucking fucking fucking dammit, a viable Mom one-off in Modern and me without a card pool to build anything worth a damn. I just need Modern printings of Ancient Tomb and Exalted Angel to relive my favorite Legacy times in Modern. Turn 1 Mom, turn 2 upside-down card, turn 3 Top 8
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    Re: Modern Horizons Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    That was his title in The Brothers War I believe
    Lord High Artificer of Yotia [think Yotian Soldier]. Urza gets to work on Thran stuff, Mishra works on Phyrexian stuff.

    Before the brothers go their separate ways, there was a competition to be Lord High Artificer [Urza won] and gets, among other things, the Thran Tome upon which Dominaria Karn's +1 is modeled. Thran Tome has the info to build the Weatherlight/Legacy Weapon, and good magic lore ends with Freylise sets off the Pernicious Deed.

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