Chained to the Snow Land, anyone?
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
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It does: Assuming the counters don't kill the creature. State based effects have +1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters cancel eachother out, and removed, however this is done at the same time a creature is checked for being dead.
So the creature is checked for being dead at the same time it's checking to cancel the counters. They happen simultaneously which means the creature technically had the counter on it when it dies.704.5f If a creature has toughness 0 or less, it’s put into its owner’s graveyard. Regeneration can’t replace this event
704.5q If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it.
But if it survives the first-round of checks, the counters will have cancelled.
Or as zombie players playing both Belcher and Geralf's messenger put it: Living the dream!
if it Undies does it lose the extra negative counter?
Yup. When an object changes zones, counters don't move with it.
So when it moved to the graveyard it lost all -1/-1 counters, and when it moves back to the battlefield it has no counters on it. Except for the one +1/+1 counter that the ability explicitly says it comes into play with.
This card is excellent, I'm loving it. As long as you have 4 mana, every excess land can be turned into gas.
Wouldn't it be an excellent fit into Moon Stompy? Although if you run 3sphere, it's kinda terrible.
On the plus side, it might do some really stupid things with cost reducers + Loam.
Seems pretty good with Rabblemaster and Warboss to produce value. Bonus points for hiding behind a Bridge, amassing an army unti you use Fiery Confluence to blow everything up to nuke your opponent.
Finally, the captain of Mons's Goblin Raiders! Lots of flavor-win for this set alongside an exceptionally above average power curve. It's probably not playable, but Mogg Fanatic now does 2 damage again with Captain Mons.
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I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
Comboes off with Skirk Prospector/Phyrexian Altar and Mana Echoes. It's a "whoops I win" combo for Goblin Tribal EDH with cards I might want to play anyways.
Also, another card to dump your {3}{R} into.
Maybe as a 1-of in Elves? With a T1 dork and two lands, you have at least 6 mana on T3. Not to mention the silliness that ensues if you have Symbiote/Quirion Ranger.
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why cards are so expensive...hoarders
The set is diverse enough that there's something for everyone to like. I dislike most of the set, but there's plenty of gems to be excited for.
Leaked, but pretty much verified real (the better quality image of someone physically holding up the card was taken down on Reddit).
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