Yeah, the card is just really absurdly designed and overly abusive in practice.
Which is exactly what I figured would happen and was a factor for why it got banned.
I think the answer is no, unless the Morph card was an Artifact or a colorless non-land on it's front side, because most Morph cards are only a colorless spell on the stack, not in any other zone.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Also figure this should be posted up, since it's hits cards you self-discard & cards you're forced to discard.
but, You can probably cast with mystic forge an artifact card that has a morph cost. At the end of the game you'll have to reveal it in order to prove it was an artifact and a morph creature.
However, there are some spells that might shuffle the creature in the Library without letting the opponent see what was the card and that might be a problem so they might want to remove that possibility by creating a special ruling.
Anyone knows what happens when you cast for example totally lost on a morphed creature? does it's owner has to reveal it?
Regarding the "it's not colorless in the library"
702.36cTo cast a card using its morph ability, turn it face down. It becomes a 2/2 face-down creature cardwith no text, no name, no subtypes, and no mana cost. Any effects or prohibitions that would apply to casting a card with these characteristics (and not the face-up card’s characteristics) are applied to casting this card ...
707.4. Objects that are cast face down are turned face down before they are put onto the stack, so effects that care about the characteristics of a spell will see only the face-down spell’s characteristics. Any effects or prohibitions that would apply to casting an object with these characteristics (and not the face-up object’s characteristics) are applied to casting this object. The permanent the spell becomes will be a face-down permanent
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They get revealed:
707.9. If a face-down permanent moves from the battlefield to any other zone, its owner must reveal it to all players as theymove it. If a face-down spell moves from the stack to any zone other than the battlefield, its owner must reveal it to all players as theymove it. If a player leaves the game, all face-down permanents and spells owned by that player must be revealed to all players. At the end of each game, all face-down permanents and spells must be revealed to all players.
Also Lion's Eye Diamonds, whose ability does not require tapping, which not everyone knows.
The problem is that you pay 4 to get them back, which is pretty huge by legacy standards. Also, we already have Shadow of the Grave.
I was more thinking about LEDs that had been binned earlier in the turn, and getting to use them twice in a turn because their wording avoids Brought Back's ETB tapped restriction, but definitely, it's not as abusable because you can't pay for Brought Back with LEDs and bring back the same ones.
“Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Brought Back works with 2x Phyrexian Dreadnought, too:
Play both, sacrifice both, bring back, sacrifice one to the other.
But probably not worth the trouble.
I'm loving standard elementals. Will probably creep into modern as a fringe tribal deck.
The first list that emerged was this one:
https://twitter.com/Em_TeeGee/status...53647248490497
But now the pro's are all over Omnath/Chandra/Risen Reef/Steamkin Runaway/Nissa (Nissa makes elementals)
More lists here:
https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/frank...the-elementals
For Modern, Seasoned Pyromancer and Young Pyromancer combine incredibly well with Risen Reef.
Speaking of hilarious standard lists, I've been messing around with Dinosaur Domain Golos Field on Arena, and while I wouldn't necessarily say it's good, it's a blast to play.
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