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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    What's the current rule on forgetting triggers?
    Because you could argue that after the millionth+ you just 'forgot' a hundred or so.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    I quickly looked at old Demon Stompy decks . . . not sure they are too helpful, but if you would start from scratch:

    12 Lands
    8 SOL Lands
    4 Mox of some type

    4 Rotting Regisaur

    4 Karn (Because he's just great)
    4 LOTV

    4 Chalice or just Dark Ritual
    4 Trinisphere
    2 Collective Brutality (?)

    leaving you lots of space to explore either graveyard synergies or madness (and any color splash)

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    Yes. Sprouting Photohydra too.
    Photohydra has a may trigger so you can force a draw, but you yourself aren't forced into a draw.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post


    T3 BARON SENGIR BOYYYYYEZXZZZ AND GIRRRRLLLZZZZZ
    T1 with dark rit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    T1 with dark rit.
    In all seriousness this is going to be a house in Standard for the next 3 months (while Vampires still exist), but we're in Didigeridoo teritory with this one otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post
    So, Demon Stompy just turned into Zombie Dino Stompy?
    You can easily run Phyrexian Arena to cancel its drawback too.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Currently looking for useful, expensive Vampires - Chancellor of the Dross sure seems appealing.

    Defiant Bloodlord with Sorin giving it counters and lifelink, that's a two turn clock.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Currently looking for useful, expensive Vampires
    Morophon, the Boundless?

    Makes the following Vampires free:

    Legion Lieutenant
    Mathas, Fiend Seeker
    Pitiless Pontiff
    Tithe Drinker

    (and all the 1 CMC vampires)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Currently looking for useful, expensive Vampires - Chancellor of the Dross sure seems appealing.

    Defiant Bloodlord with Sorin giving it counters and lifelink, that's a two turn clock.
    Patron of the Vein kills something on arrival and has a somewhat useful second ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Currently looking for useful, expensive Vampires - Chancellor of the Dross sure seems appealing.

    Defiant Bloodlord with Sorin giving it counters and lifelink, that's a two turn clock.
    Chancellor and Skeletal Vampire were about all I could find. Maybe Mirri the Cursed or Vona, Butcher of Magan. Most expensive vamps are just limited fodder it turns out. But there's a whole bunch of good-to-decent cheap and medium costed ones that would benefit a lot from the +1s.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Oathsworn Vampire is good with the second ability - lightning helix each turn.

    Mephidross Vampire into a walking Ballista is also funny.

    Garza Zol, Plague Queen for a hasty 5/5 plus draw.

    Nirkana Revenant and Necropolis Regent seem alright as well for big vampires.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Oathsworn Vampire is good with the second ability - lightning helix each turn.
    Also, Bloodghast is a Vampire, but obviously that doesn't work in Standard.
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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Panharmonicon on a GSZ-able stick:



    Maybe somebody can cook up a crazy Nic Fit build with it, although I doubt it.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Also, Bloodghast is a Vampire, but obviously that doesn't work in Standard.
    Could that type of deck work in Legacy as a sort of weird Punishing Fire + Grove Rip Off in Mono black?

    4 Sorin
    4 LOTV

    4 Oathsworn Vampire
    4 Bloodghast
    4 BOB

    4 Dark Ritual
    3 Chrome Mox

    4 Thoughtseize
    4 Duress

    8 Creature Kill Spells

    10 Fetch
    7 Swamp

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post
    I am actually most excited about this in both BR Reanimator and in Mono Black Reanimator.

    Both decks hit hellbent very quickly so they dont really care about the upkeep cost midgame. And early game, they want a way to discard their reanimator targets.

    Turn 1 Ritual into this is a fantastic play in those decks. Even better than a turn 1 Ritual into Liliana since this applies a lot of pressure on your opponents life total unless your opponents uses up removal on it that otherwise would have hit one of your Grave Titans that you Lake of the Dead out later.

    It gives the deck yet another workaround against graveyard hate.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hammer View Post
    I am actually most excited about this in Mono Black Reanimator.

    Turn 1 Ritual into this is a fantastic play in that deck. Even better than a turn 1 Ritual into Liliana since this applies a lot of pressure on your opponents life total unless your opponents uses up removal on it that otherwise would have hit one of your Grave Titans that you Lake of the Dead out later.

    It gives the deck yet another workaround against graveyard hate.
    Between this and Cryptbreaker, one could almost just full board into a Zombie Tribal deck. Not sure how good that would be, but it does dodge Grave-hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Panharmonicon on a GSZ-able stick:



    Maybe somebody can cook up a crazy Nic Fit build with it, although I doubt it.
    Yarkok does double up on landfall triggers, which is significantly better than panharmonicon. The casting cost is pretty hefty though.

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    Do you really, really, REALLLLLY need Jace dead? Probably better than Combust b/c killing Planeswalkers is more relevant than no damage prevention.

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    Re: Core Set 2020 Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss View Post
    Do you really, really, REALLLLLY need Jace dead?
    That is a decent upgrade to Combust but not killing TNN means it likely isn't for Legacy. But I think it might have a home wherever 5-mana Teferi runs around more so.
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    Leyline of Abundance

    2GG, Rare

    Leyline clause

    When you tap a creature for mana, add an additional G .

    6GG: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.

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