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    Taps for 2 mana for your 6 drop... well ok fine i guess.



    Curve out and pump all creatures. I like it!



    Feels too expensive but im glad the blue one is not broken!

    I predict the white one will make a soldier for 2WW
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    In formats without the ever present wasteland they've got no real downside so they'll see play for sure. Black one seems strongest overall. Red one will definitely appear in Standard and the Green one feels very commander playable. Blue one is meh but works as a mana sink in EDH.

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    Listen I know that hoping for a playable Knights deck is a fool's dream but I really like Blacklance Paragon. Most of the "good" knights are 3 mana though:

    Mirran Crusader
    Stillmoon Cavalier
    KOTR
    Olivia, Mobilized for War

    etc

    Only decent cheaper knights I could think of were

    Student of Warfare
    Knight of the Holy Nimbus

    and I guess the appropriate Pro - Color depending on metagame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu View Post

    I predict the white one will make a soldier for 2WW
    OOO, so close, but it's a human token.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Listen I know that hoping for a playable Knights deck is a fool's dream but I really like Blacklance Paragon. Most of the "good" knights are 3 mana though:

    Mirran Crusader
    Stillmoon Cavalier
    KOTR
    Olivia, Mobilized for War

    etc

    Only decent cheaper knights I could think of were

    Student of Warfare
    Knight of the Holy Nimbus

    and I guess the appropriate Pro - Color depending on metagame?
    Some other choice knights:

    Knight of the Ebon Legion
    Dauntless Bodyguard
    Corpse Knight
    Knight of medowgrain
    Knight of the Holy Numbus
    Knight of the White Orchid
    Paladin of Atonement
    Skynight Vanguard
    Knight Examplar
    Brave the Elements
    Diamond Knight
    Hero of Bladehold

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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cire View Post
    Listen I know that hoping for a playable Knights deck is a fool's dream but I really like Blacklance Paragon. Most of the "good" knights are 3 mana though:

    Mirran Crusader
    Stillmoon Cavalier
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    Important to remember that by itself, the new knight is fine as a removal spell/wincon/pw killer. There is precious little benefit in trying to force a knight tribal deck as he doesn't really play nicely with anything except Haakon.

    Once you get to Haakon you think of Entomb and suddenly your deck is failing to make a Grisel with Grisel-making tools.

    This is a dude which can live beside Snapcaster in a UB control shell with little downside. Starting with Standstill shells (the only UB control shell?) will likely yield better results than building tribal knights (which is kinda sad b/c Court Hussar/Haakon is a cool CA engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    Important to remember that by itself, the new knight is fine as a removal spell/wincon/pw killer. There is precious little benefit in trying to force a knight tribal deck as he doesn't really play nicely with anything except Haakon.

    Once you get to Haakon you think of Entomb and suddenly your deck is failing to make a Grisel with Grisel-making tools.

    This is a dude which can live beside Snapcaster in a UB control shell with little downside. Starting with Standstill shells (the only UB control shell?) will likely yield better results than building tribal knights (which is kinda sad b/c Court Hussar/Haakon is a cool CA engine.
    Anyone knows if haakon can recast the adventure part from the graveyard? (my guess is no)

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    Seems cheap enough to be worth a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    Anyone knows if haakon can recast the adventure part from the graveyard? (my guess is no)
    I would say that that getting permission to cast spells with the creature subtype of knight doesn't apply to instants and sorcerceries with the subtype of adventure. But I am also waiting for the comprehensive rules on the subject.

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    This might be usable somewhere.
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    Fae of Wishes

    Sorcery Adventure - 3U
    Death wish, but you don't lose half your life

    1U
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    1U: discard two cards, return this to your hand

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    Does the adventure half count as an ability or as a split card? In other words, would a spell cost reducer reduce the cost of adventures or not because it counts as an ability. Would you be able to play adventures with Omniscience ?

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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    They're typed as instants/sorceries, so I imagine cost reducers work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    They're typed as instants/sorceries, so I imagine cost reducers work.
    It's cool that Living Wish can grab adventure sorceries and instants tacked onto creatures from the sideboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruizar View Post
    It's cool that Living Wish can grab adventure sorceries and instants tacked onto creatures from the sideboard.
    THat's why the ruling with haakon is not completely clear. If you can grab a card because its adventure part is a sorcery, you should be able to cast the spell if the creature part is a knight because it's a knight card :)
    There's a part of me which wants to bet on that and buy lots of haakon before dropping them on the market for value.
    There is another part of me (Reason i guess) that tells me to forget about this as this would be too good :)

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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    The creature part is a Knight, the adventure isn't so you can't cast the adventure from your GY via Haakon (unless it had Changeling). It's clear enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    The creature part is a Knight, the adventure isn't so you can't cast the adventure from your GY via Haakon (unless it had Changeling). It's clear enough.
    Haakon reads, you may play knight cards from your graveyard. Murderous rider is a knight card. It's phisycally the same card as swift end. It's not clear enough that I can't cast swift end :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    Haakon reads, you may play knight cards from your graveyard. Murderous rider is a knight card. It's phisycally the same card as swift end. It's not clear enough that I can't cast swift end :)
    Yeah this is probably an interaction WotC will need to clarify.

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    They have clearly different names and types. One has the type Knight, the other has not. All you have to check is does the card have the type Knight? Ardenvale Knight does, therefor you can cast Ardenvale Knight with Haakon. Dizzying Swoop does not, therefor you cannot cast Dizzying Swoop with Haakon. I really don't see the problem. Dizzying Swoop and Ardenvale Knight are 2 different cards that just happen to share a piece of cardboard.
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