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    In fairy lore, food is used to trap people in the fairy realm. It could be some means to steal creatures?
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    Kinda surprised they went with life gain on the Food tokens, given how bad life gain for the sake of it is. But they probably needed more artifacts, as the first spoilers hint at an artifact subtheme.



    I like the flavor. But then again, looking at other cards, this is really "Disney Cartoons: The Set":



    Edit: The Beast doesn't seem to be very picky, considering it also works with Mountain Goat. *implications intensify*

    The set seems to be pretty heavily influenced by pop culture (if Ariel and Goldilocks are any indication, they're going with edgy/dark humor variants of it). Wouldn't even surprise me if the Arthurian mythology they promised is based on the Fate franchise, considering Sony is making fat bank with Fate Grand Order (over two billion/year). I mean, there was already art spoiled that is a blatant reference to Unlimited Blade Works, so there's that.

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    Despite being expensive at 4 mana, the effect seems pretty powerful, especially due to haste (which make him also a Planeswalker counter).
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    Not really pop culture. Most of the Disney films are based on old fairytales.

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    i really like the art in this set.

    notes on cards:

    new birds of paradise that dodges 1 damage removal cards like W6, plague engineer, blocks lackey etc.
    rankle seems like a solid card, although with the "each player" clause it is highly intended for commander.

    oko thief of crowns seems REALLY good. am i reading this correctly? the 2nd ability is permanent? really want to use this with liquimetal coating. oops your land/planeswalker is an ELK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercakes View Post
    i really like the art in this set.

    notes on cards:

    new birds of paradise that dodges 1 damage removal cards like W6, plague engineer, blocks lackey etc.
    rankle seems like a solid card, although with the "each player" clause it is highly intended for commander.

    oko thief of crowns seems REALLY good. am i reading this correctly? the 2nd ability is permanent? really want to use this with liquimetal coating. oops your land/planeswalker is an ELK.
    Really good is a little bit overstated. You're playing two cards that are not making any card advantage (Unless you start using the -5 and the +2 of oko, but your opponent has some 3/3 to attack into oko) and it's kinda slow...

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    Turning opponents Walker or land into a 3/3 isn't the worst, but you do also end up getting attacked by a 3/3.

    Also if I'm pairing a 3 Mana walker with coating, I'll just do it with Dack and take their shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Turning opponents Walker or land into a 3/3 isn't the worst, but you do also end up getting attacked by a 3/3.

    Also if I'm pairing a 3 Mana walker with coating, I'll just do it with Dack and take their shit
    Dack can't steal shit every turn, though.

    I recently pondered about a WGx Stoneforge deck that abuses Coating with Sword of Sinew and Steel, Pridemage and Knight of Autumn. Trygon Predator would fit in very well, too, if you go for the Bant route. This new Walker would probably slot in nicely.
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    Well, I got close on the Food tokens...I just didn't anticipate having to pay 2 mana, but like a Clue, I guess I should have guessed.



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    Oh boy, the Healing Salve of Clue tokens... how dull...
    Unless there are a ton of cards that interact with Food like the Gilded Goose, this mechanic is a waste of time.

    I wonder if the 'cast from exile' clause is part of the Adventure resolving, or permanently part of the creature.
    Pitching Flaxen Intruder to Force of Vigor and then casting the little girl seems likely not what they intended.
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    Interesting. Do those cards count as both instant/sorcery and creature in the GY, e.g. for Tarmogoyf or Meren?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    Oh boy, the Healing Salve of Clue tokens... how dull...
    Unless there are a ton of cards that interact with Food like the Gilded Goose, this mechanic is a waste of time.

    I wonder if the 'cast from exile' clause is part of the Adventure resolving, or permanently part of the creature.
    Pitching Flaxen Intruder to Force of Vigor and then casting the little girl seems likely not what they intended.
    My guess is it would be part of resolving, something about the "Adventure" subtype, I'd guess. Otherwise, it would be kind of busted...

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    Interesting. Do those cards count as both instant/sorcery and creature in the GY, e.g. for Tarmogoyf or Meren?
    Could go either way, but I think the answer should be no, it's just a Creature, but it's totally arbitrary.

    But knowing how the mechanic works now, does make that Beauty and the Beast card vastly better.
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    I think the cast from exile is part of the adventure resolving (the creature goes on an adventure, then returns). I wonder how it would interact with stuff like Past in Flames. Would you be able to cast the sorcery/instant from the GY and then have the card exile and the creature be castable?

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    But knowing how the mechanic works now, does make that Beauty and the Beast card vastly better.
    Trying to figure how it works exactly by reading the card... nope... Can you explain it here? :)

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    Trying to figure how it works exactly by reading the card... nope... Can you explain it here? :)
    Cast the sorcery for 1 mana to get a 1/1 human, card get exiled. Then you can pay 3 mana to cast the beast from exile and he can attack the following turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Interesting. Do those cards count as both instant/sorcery and creature in the GY, e.g. for Tarmogoyf or Meren?
    I think the answer will be yes, since it has all the trappings of a split card, with a complete card name, casting cost & typing along with the "main" card. So unless it's on the stack, then it should have all its attributes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    Trying to figure how it works exactly by reading the card... nope... Can you explain it here? :)


    So you can cast Heart's Desire for , exile it (presumably on resolution) then can cast Lovestruck Beast, from exile, for .
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    This seems like something that is on the cusp of playable in legacy, and definitely in modern. Having flash is pretty big and it's something that triggers for every cantrip you spend, even the shitty ones like Serum Visions and Opt. Brainstorm even triggers it on opponent's turn, which gives sly opportunities in combat.


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    Seems pretty alright in my book. Can't get around Chalice @1, though.
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    I post this one because it has an important quality: it has a sub-type that makes it fetchable. If there is a set of these, one of them might become a decent 1-of tutor target in fetch manabases (modern and legacy.)

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