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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    SYr Konrad the Grim 3BB
    Whenever another creature dies, or a creature card is put into a graveyard from anywhere other than the battlefield or a creature card leaves your gaveyard, Syr Konrad the grim deals 1 damage to each opponent.
    5/4.

    Is there some kind of possible combo with this guy? It could be a way for dredge to kill an opponent without attacking for example?
    So... going to exile is leaving the graveyard right? So you could mill yourself then exile your own GY and kill someone?

    As for legacy dredge, it's maybe not doing enough damage on its own to be worth dread returning. You're better off just bringing back Flayer of the Hatebound and then bringing back a fat GGT.

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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    So... going to exile is leaving the graveyard right? So you could mill yourself then exile your own GY and kill someone?
    Exactly. I was thinking about dumping all your Library in the yard and exiling it with something like tormod or relic for the win.

    As for legacy dredge, it's maybe not doing enough damage on its own to be worth dread returning. You're better off just bringing back Flayer of the Hatebound and then bringing back a fat GGT.
    Yeah. and having something that exiles your graveyard in dredge so that Syr Konrad does enough damage is like going the complete other way :)

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    SYr Konrad the Grim 3BB
    Whenever another creature dies, or a creature card is put into a graveyard from anywhere other than the battlefield or a creature card leaves your gaveyard, Syr Konrad the grim deals 1 damage to each opponent.
    5/4.

    Is there some kind of possible combo with this guy? It could be a way for dredge to kill an opponent without attacking for example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    Exactly. I was thinking about dumping all your Library in the yard and exiling it with something like tormod or relic for the win.



    Yeah. and having something that exiles your graveyard in dredge so that Syr Konrad does enough damage is like going the complete other way :)
    You don't even need to be exiling to do the damage. Just mill yourself and have 15 or more creatures from your Library hit the GY and that's game.

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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Darklingske View Post
    You don't even need to be exiling to do the damage. Just mill yourself and have 15 or more creatures from your Library hit the GY and that's game.
    You still need to cast Syr Konrad. that's why i was thinking about a dredge shell + dredge return (Although with the contradiction of having to play graveyard "hate" in dredge)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    You still need to cast Syr Konrad. that's why i was thinking about a dredge shell + dredge return (Although with the contradiction of having to play graveyard "hate" in dredge)
    If you can get him into play, it also works when your opponent slams a RIP on you as well. Too bad the deck doesn't have a way to cheat him in in response or anything.
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    I kept hearing random people around the room saying "manaless dredge!" like a sort of "hide your wives and your daughters, grab your pitchforks, say your prayers, the Beast is back" reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronco View Post
    If you can get him into play, it also works when your opponent slams a RIP on you as well. Too bad the deck doesn't have a way to cheat him in in response or anything.
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    Good call. I keep defaulting to manaless when i see "dredge."
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Safety View Post
    Look at the bright side, if Legacy becomes like Vintage all of us old dudes can get together, drink whiskey, and smoke cigars while we play the gentleman's format. Like an MtG speak-easy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lav Dafka View Post
    I kept hearing random people around the room saying "manaless dredge!" like a sort of "hide your wives and your daughters, grab your pitchforks, say your prayers, the Beast is back" reaction.

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    It seems like Shimmer Dragon could work as a combo engine:

    Shimmer Dragon
    4UU

    Flying

    As long as you control four or more artifacts, Shimmer Dragon has hexproof.

    Tap two untapped artifacts you control: Draw a card.

    5/6
    Though that casting cost is pretty big.

    Haakon, Stromgald Scourge might get some attention with all the knights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    It seems like Shimmer Dragon could work as a combo engine:



    Though that casting cost is pretty big.

    Haakon, Stromgald Scourge might get some attention with all the knights.
    Still need a way to get it into the yard. Always the biggest problem with him

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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    Still need a way to get it into the yard. Always the biggest problem with him
    Buried Alive to put both Haakon and it into the GY? But then again, the 5 mana cost is massive.
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    The Adventure cards might look awkward, but they play AMAZING - at least on Arena. Note - I'm not making any comments on how playable/good they are, just that this is a mechanic that works really well from both a flavor and gameplay perspective.

    Good job WotC.

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    Does anyone know when the comprehensive rules will be updated to handle Adventure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    Does anyone know when the comprehensive rules will be updated to handle Adventure?
    Usually the day of, or day before the Prerelease, if I remember correctly.
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    "Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact and/or enchantment you control."

    What's the rational for the "and/or" over just "and"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerofthevoid View Post
    "Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact and/or enchantment you control."

    What's the rational for the "and/or" over just "and"?
    I think it's lazy templating, and it should either be "each artifact or enchantment permanent you control" or "each artifact and each enchantment you control." (Otherwise its unclear what happens if you control an enchantment artifact.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerofthevoid View Post
    "Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact and/or enchantment you control."

    What's the rational for the "and/or" over just "and"?
    It's clearer that artifact enchantments (we're going back to theros soon) don't count twice.

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    This has applications.

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    Well this is an interesting card both for and against blue Chalice decks. Interesting for Painter as well. I think the issue is more that it has to live in the sideboard for most every deck that might want it (stiff competition for a slot), while a card like Metallic Rebuke already plays nice with Chalice.

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    Re: Throne of Eldraine Spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    Garruk tribal!!!!!1!!1!

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    This is now confirmed real:
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