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    Vampire Soldiers

    The core of the deck is using Preeminent captain/sorin, lord of innistrad to cheat in licia and morophon protected by chalice. Not sure on the other cards yet but here is version one, thoughts welcome!


    4 chalice of the void
    2 collective brutality

    4 Preeminent captain
    4 sorin, imperious bloodlord

    3 morophon, the boundless
    4 licia, sanguine tribune

    2 anje's ravager
    2 Palace jailer
    3 gifted aetherborn
    4 stromkirk captain
    3 bloodghast
    1 vona, butcher of magan
    1 champion of dusk

    4 chrome mox
    4 ancient tomb
    16 lands

    SB
    4 thalia, guardian of thraben
    4 leyline of the void
    3 zealous persecution
    4 blood sun
    Last edited by kinda; 11-22-2019 at 07:29 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    Needs moar Champion of Dusk (and Oathsworn Vampire to combo with Sorin).

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Erdvermampfa View Post
    Needs moar Champion of Dusk (and Oathsworn Vampire to combo with Sorin).
    Champion looks sweet, I think bloodghast is better than Oathsworn. I'm not sure how to build the mana base for this? I'll run it in my proxy event this month.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    Thinking of switching this to a dark ritual deck to try to turn one sorin into morophon/licia or buried alive.


    4 dark ritual
    4 chrome mox
    17 lands

    4 Preeminent captain
    4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
    4 stromkirk captain
    3 morophon
    4 licia

    3 bloodghast
    4 buried alive
    1 hogaak

    2 anje's ravager
    4 cabal therapy
    3 legion lieutenant
    Last edited by kinda; 11-24-2019 at 08:40 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    Hogaak + 2 Bloodghast isn't that exciting payoff for resolving Dark Ritual + Buried Alive (which is not easy to assemble and vulnerable to many lines of disruption: counters, grave hate, storm hate, chalice). The bar is 3 Phoenixes or some reanimator combo.

    What was wrong with the Chalice Stompy build? Was it not winning games?

    I think if you cut red it would get easier to support.



    //Mana: 24
    4 Chrome Mox
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Marsh Flats
    4 Prismatic Vista
    3 Scrubland
    3 Snow-Covered Swamp
    2 Snow-Covered Plains

    //Planeswalkers: 4
    4 Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord

    //Artifacts: 4
    4 Chalice of the Void

    //Creatures: 28
    4 Legion Lieutenant
    3 Gifted Aetherborn
    3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    4 Preeminent Captain
    4 Kheru Mind-Eater
    2 Palace Jailer
    1 Elenda, the Dusk Rose
    3 Morophon, the Boundless
    4 Licia, Sanguine Tribune

    //Sideboard: 15
    1 Karakas
    1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    1 Kataki, War's Wage
    2 Containment Priest
    2 Phyrexian Revoker
    2 Yixlid Jailer
    3 Surgical Extraction
    1 Umezawa's Jitte
    2 Zealous Persecution


    Other vampires that might be playable:

    Asylum Visitor
    Duskmantle Legion
    Bishop of Binding
    Bloodline Keeper
    Drana, Liberator of Malakir
    Forerunner of the Legion
    Gatekeeper of Malakir
    Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
    Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle
    Vampire Hexmage

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    You're right I think. Kheru looks very cool, I never knew it existed. The two cc two color dudes liked gifted/legion r tough with the tombs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    I went an impressive 0-3 vs infect x2/ turbo depths. I'm thinking I'll swap the therapies for swords then cut the bitterblossom/contamination/oathsworn package for something.


    3 vampire of the dire moon
    1 asylum visitor
    1 anje's ravager
    2 kheru mind-eater
    4 cabal therapy
    1 jitte

    2 contamination
    3 bitterblossom
    2 Oathsworn Vampire

    4 Preeminent captain
    4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
    2 stromkirk captain
    2 mirror entity
    3 morophon
    4 licia

    4 chrome mox
    4 ancient to
    14 land

    SB
    4 leyline of the void
    3 thalia
    3 zealous persecution
    3 collective brutality
    2 Palace jailer
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by kinda View Post
    I went an impressive 0-3 vs infect x2/ turbo depths. I'm thinking I'll swap the therapies for swords then cut the bitterblossom/contamination/oathsworn package for something.
    0 Chalice, 0 Thalia/spheres main, 0 Karakas, 0 Moons, only 4 discard main.... no wonder you lost 0-3 to fast combo. Contamination lock is good against some decks but too slow against the explosive ones.

    To interact with fast combo, BW either needs something like 8 discard (4 Thoughtseize + 4 Therapy) or the stompy route like I had (Chalice + Thalia). The Vamp Soldier engine is cute, but you need interaction too.

    Depths stomps everything without Swords and Karakas. Were those freak pairings or is your local meta Depths-heavy? If there's a lot of Depths, definitely add 4 Swords and any Karakas you own. I wouldn't cut discard though. You need something to interact with other unfair decks.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    Using your Chalice-less list, I would try something like this


    //Spells: 10
    4 Thoughtseize
    4 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Cabal Therapy

    //Planeswalkers: 4
    4 Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord

    //Creatures: 23
    4 Vampire of the Dire Moon
    4 Legion Lieutenant
    4 Preeminent Captain
    2 Kheru Mind-Eater
    2 Palace Jailer
    3 Morophon, the Boundless
    4 Licia, Sanguine Tribune

    //Mana: 23
    4 Chrome Mox
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Marsh Flats
    2 Prismatic Vista
    2 Scrubland
    3 Snow-Covered Swamp
    2 Snow-Covered Plains
    2 Karakas


    Play more interaction. That still has the core engine but it also has more disruption against unfair decks.

    Legion Lieutenant is easier to cast than Stromkirk Captain. Unlike other Sol Land decks, there are still 19 colored sources here + 4 Sorin and 3 Morophon to cheat them out.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    Using your Chalice-less list, I would try something like this


    //Spells: 10
    4 Thoughtseize
    4 Swords to Plowshares
    2 Cabal Therapy

    //Planeswalkers: 4
    4 Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord

    //Creatures: 23
    4 Vampire of the Dire Moon
    4 Legion Lieutenant
    4 Preeminent Captain
    2 Kheru Mind-Eater
    2 Palace Jailer
    3 Morophon, the Boundless
    4 Licia, Sanguine Tribune

    //Mana: 23
    4 Chrome Mox
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Marsh Flats
    2 Prismatic Vista
    2 Scrubland
    3 Snow-Covered Swamp
    2 Snow-Covered Plains
    2 Karakas


    Play more interaction. That still has the core engine but it also has more disruption against unfair decks.

    Legion Lieutenant is easier to cast than Stromkirk Captain. Unlike other Sol Land decks, there are still 19 colored sources here + 4 Sorin and 3 Morophon to cheat them out.
    It looks good! I'll run something very close to this next week. I wish there was a good vampire token generator.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by kinda View Post
    I wish there was a good vampire token generator.
    I guess Sorin and the 3/3 flyer are too slow?
    ANd legion's landing also? (And anyway, i don't see this flipping easily in legacy)

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    0-3 again with a list very close to FTW's. The aggro backup plan just doesn't seem good enough right now and not sure if one good enough could be built with vampires. I'm considering either going soldiers heavy instead of vampires or BWg for living wish (to get depths)/vampire hexmage. Something like:


    4 Preeminent captain
    4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
    4 vampire hexmage
    4 living wish
    4 licia
    4 stp
    2 sylvan library
    12 ?

    4 chrome mox
    4 ancient to
    14 land

    SB
    1 depths
    1 big vampire
    1 big soldier
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    He's underwhelming on his own.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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    Re: Vampire Soldiers

    I don't own chalices, but if I do run this again I'll be borrowing chalices.

    I went 1-3 tonight for a lifetime 1-9 now, so I'm retiring the chalice-less build of this deck. I lowered the curve and made it more aggressive which I liked, but still not very good.


    4 enlistment officer
    3 thalia, guardian of thraben
    2 kytheon, hero of akros
    1 palace jailer
    3 legion warboss
    1 legion loyalist
    2 vicious conquistador
    2 goldmeadow harrier

    4 Preeminent captain
    4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
    2 mirror entity
    3 morophon
    4 licia

    3 swords to plowshares

    4 chrome mox
    4 ancient to
    15 land
    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Brains View Post
    With the printing of Gigantosaurus, Thrashing Brontodon and Steel Leaf Champion the deck has evolved from good to very competitive. Anyway, give it a few play tests if you are interested and let me know what you think.

    Winter Maze
    Quote Originally Posted by CptHaddock View Post
    With veteran explorer I know that I 100% will not enjoy a 30 minute grindfest against someone who can barely afford dual lands and believes that their deck can cast a 10 mana 8/8.

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