Theros: Beyond Death spoilers

[jmlima]

Question to the people in this thread: Can these older formats survive another 2019 in terms of card power level and upheaval of set archetypes? This spoiler season is hitting us hard and fast, we already have a Yawg Will in red and an infinite combo with Heliod and Walking Ballista, and the 3 mana Klothys. If this is any indication, we're in for another can of whup ass.

As long as there are credit cards and people willing to spend their money on cardboard, it will continue.

[bruizar]

Question to the people in this thread: Can these older formats survive another 2019 in terms of card power level and upheaval of set archetypes? This spoiler season is hitting us hard and fast, we already have a Yawg Will in red and an infinite combo with Heliod and Walking Ballista, and the 3 mana Klothys. If this is any indication, we're in for another can of whup ass.

It was already stated that this is the new powerlevel. Expect a lot of cards to be pushed out of the format.

[Barook]

I don't think getting more powerful cards is a bad thing, since Legacy would get stale otherwise. At least as long as they weed out the bullshit cards in a reasonable time frame like W&6.

Edit: I wonder if a Soul Sisters variant could become viable in Legacy with the new Heliod/Ballista combo. E-Tutor could search for either combo piece, if necessary.

[mistercakes]

https://www.hareruyamtg.com/en/deck/...er=&eventName=

only 3 decks, but still better than nothing. i'm sure it's good enough to jam at a weekly.

[bruizar]

I like this card a lot:





[Arista the Endless Nest]
Legendary Enchantment Creature — Spider
Reach
Whenever an opponent casts an instant or sorcery spell, create a 1/2 green Spider creature token with reach.
3/5

Also Preeminent Captain gets a new toy in the yanky deck department

[Barook]

Color me unimpressed. Arasta relies on the opponent to spam spider tokens. If OP plays a removal spell (and there are plenty for both creatures and enchantments), you've spent for a free 1/2 reach token.

[bruizar]

Color me unimpressed. Arasta relies on the opponent to spam spider tokens. If OP plays a removal spell (and there are plenty for both creatures and enchantments), you've spent for a free 1/2 reach token.

The way I see it, it survives bolt and produces better creatures than young pyromancer, which can also kill/block delvers. This would be for a sylvan plug style deck against (UR)Delver decks. The tokens also survive Arcanist and trade with Pyromancer.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

The way I see it, it survives bolt and produces better creatures than young pyromancer, which can also kill/block delvers. This would be for a sylvan plug style deck against (UR)Delver decks. The tokens also survive Arcanist and trade with Pyromancer.

It would be better, with four Mana, to just win the game

[Cire]

Speaking of 4 mana :

Tectonic Giant 2RR
Creature - Elemental Giant
Whenever Tectonic Giant attacks or becomes the target of a spell an opponent controls, choose one—
• Tectonic Giant deals 3 damage to each opponent.
• Exile the top two cards of your library. Choose one of them. Until the end of your next turn, you may play that card.
3/4

Is Dragon Stompy still a thing? Seems they would like a 4 mana 6/4 that provides damage/CA if opponent targets it.

[Glass House]

Tectonic Giant probably finds a slot in Red Eldrazi. The deck already runs Anje's Ravager, and Giant is likely better.

[Barook]

Polukranos died?

[Cire]

Polukranos died?

From the MTG Wiki - looks like Elspeth killed it

[Smuggo]

Horse fish

[BenBleiweiss]

There's gotta be something you can do here, GG2 for Vesuva/Stage or Depths, etc.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Polukranos died?

Elspeth, aka lady Heracles, slew the hydra. Yes.

[HdH_Cthulhu]

There's gotta be something you can do here, GG2 for Vesuva/Stage or Depths, etc.

Maybe just get all the Cloudposts. Or Cabal Coffers/Urborg. Cradle, Nykthos...

Problem is you just play setup for even bigger turns, nice value for Gitrog EDH but way slower than Crop Rotation.

[Cire]

Horse fish

Don't see the image so reposting:

[morgan_coke]

Treacherous Blessing got officially spoiled.

Man, I am fired up about playing a GWB deck with stuff like that, Birth of Meletis, Doom Foretold, and Setessan Champion. Probably throw in an Island or two and some Dance's just to reset the whole mess when needed.

Nylea's Intervention is an awesome card, but I don't know that it'll do much in Legacy given how it's a whole turn for just setup and how fast the format is overall. Seems more like a Pioneer power card. Even Modern is probably too quick with all the Astrolabe powered Tempo decks there now.

[bruizar]

What else is there to build a deck around?




Turn 1: Dead Weight a creature
Turn 2: Cacophony, exile dead weight make a zombie
Turn 3: Sarcomancy make a zombie, Perilous Research, draw 2 cards, attack for 4, exile Sarcomancy make another zombie
Turn 4: Attack for 8

Not too powerful, I guess Sarcomancy and Perilous Research are too weak, but Cacophony looks like a really good Young Pyromancer that lacks the enchantments to fuel it.

[Fox]

Cool legendary interaction with Aphemia by itself. Decent chance of no negative interaction by opponent with end step trigger. Probably the better Tempest card would be Intuition (but rather anemic use of mana showing 3x Aphemia versus something like Phoenix).

Similar to a card like Blacklance Paragon, Aphemia likely becomes weaker in a tribal themed deck.