I couldn't find a shell. I thought of Delver/Pyromancer, Zombardment style decks that can profit off the discard, and Gruul Stompy list that can profit from Rabblemaster, but none of it is very convincing. Perhaps we get a few additional Satyr printings that make it worth while.Originally Posted by Watersaw
It also feels kinda win more (if you have 3 attackers you are in a good spot)
“Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
I wonder if you could cram it in some janky goblins build to refill your hand.That would probably belong in cavius forum though.
Not really all the playable, but as a sort of completionist, I appreciate this now exists.
However, Replenish does exist, so there is always that angle.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
4 Teferi
Not really all the playable, but as a sort of completionist, I appreciate this now exists.
However, Replenish does exist, so there is always that angle.
4 Show and Tell
4 Thirst for Meaning
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Omniscience
4 Replenish
4 Overwhelming Splendor / Decree of Silence / Dovescape
4 Force of Will
3 Force of Negation
Or something
I'm waiting for the "unless you discard a Planeswalker card" card.
Not really all the playable, but as a sort of completionist, I appreciate this now exists.
However, Replenish does exist, so there is always that angle.
They should release a super cycle where it's a million thirsts and each one's flavor text is "What good is X without Y" where X is the thirst for whatever and Y is the name of the card.I'm waiting for the "unless you discard a Planeswalker card" card.
I fully expect royalties in the next round of Secret Liar: Thirst Traps
(It will also have alt art Runeflare Trap)
This has a lot of potential.
Definitely. LED is a prime candidate to break it.
This is probaby the closest cards we're getting to Yawgmoth's Will in Red. Needs a little more work, but costs less, sticks around the whole turn and you can recast things that you cast off it (doesn't exile cards you cast in this way).
This has a lot of potential.
Yup. you can escape the LED itself so if you have enough cards in grave to pay for Escape you can use this to cast any card in your grave by just escaping LED over and over.
LED + Brain Freeze, turn 1/2 kill.
Drop Underworld Breach.
Play LED, sac it, discarding Brain Freeze + other cards.
Cast Brain Freeze on yourself.
Cast LED from Graveyard, sac it, cast Brain freeze on yourself
Repeat a few times to get storm count up
Cast Brain Freeze on opponent for their deck.
win
Awesome - Just wanted to make sure it works
Led (storm count 1, let's say 3 non "combo" cards in grave, lets say 52 cards in Library, 3 mana), cast BF from grave on yourself (Storm 2, 6 non-combo cards in grave, 46 in library, 1 mana), cast LED from grave (storm 3, 3 non-combo cards in grave, 46 in library, 4 mana), cast BF from grave on yourself (Storm 4, 12 non-combo cards in grave, 34 in library, 2 mana), Cast LED from grave (storm 5, 9 non-combo cards in grave, 34 in library, 5 mana), cast BF from grave on yourself (Storm 6, 27 non-combo cards in grave, 16 in library, 3 mana), Cast LED from grave (storm 7, 24 non-combo cards in grave, 16 in library, 6 mana), cast BF from grave on yourself (Storm 8, 37 non-combo cards in grave, 0 in library, 4 mana), From this point instead of BF you opponent and thus having to pass the turn or being subject ot graveyard shuffle cards, just recast LED and cast grapeshot multiple times.
Problem is its a 3 card combo (for two mana, but still 3 cards).
Pretty sure it does not work. AV has no "mana cost," but it's "converted mana cost" is zero. You can't cast AV for its "mana cost" because it doesn't exist.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Can I cast from my graveyard a Lotus Bloom for "exile 3 cards from my graveyard" ?
The way I see it is Lotus Bloom has no mana cost but Underworld Breach give it an escape cost that is "no mana cost" + exile 3 cards from GY = exile 3 cards from GY.
@cire started a new/developing thread on the breach deck. let's brew on there.
-rob
Yup - i'll delete my speculation from here then
No.
The unpayable cost plus a payable one doesn't turn into a payable one. Think of it this way: A sphere of resistance doesn't make a lotus bloom castable either.
As it says in gatherer: "This has no mana cost, which means its mana cost can’t be paid for effects such as replicate from Djinn Illuminatus or flashback from Snapcaster Mage." Also, check the reminder text on Evermind. Non-existent costs can't be paid.
Ox of Agonas – 3RR
Creature – Ox (MR)
When ~ enters the battlefield, discard your hand, then draw three cards.
Escape-RR, exile eight other from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
~ escapes with a +1/+1 counters on it.
4/2
Cheap escape cost but heavy cost for exile . . . competes heavily with delve creatures, but it does give you gas.
Purphoros going to make waves in pioneer. Ox looks pretty insane
Altar of Dementia puts 5 cards in the graveyard if you sack the ox, so once you play the 3 cards from your hand you can escape it again for RR and draw 3 cards (provided you don't hit lands).
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